The drop in quality of the story

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Sep 1, 2019 12:38 AM

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The first season was about the main character and his growth. Now it's turned into a cliché damsel in distress story in the second season with Bell becoming into this stagnant side character who seems to be added into the show just because he's the protagonist. The extra about the Loki familia was more entertaining than this.

Sep 1, 2019 9:02 PM

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weebwhacker21 said:
The first season was about the main character and his growth. Now it's turned into a cliché damsel in distress story in the second season with Bell becoming into this stagnant side character who seems to be added into the show just because he's the protagonist. The extra about the Loki familia was more entertaining than this.

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The first season already has the worst story I've ever seen. How a drop of quality even be possible?
You're just older no ?

Bell was an horrible crybaby in first season now he is just useless it's probably better too. x)

Sep 2, 2019 2:27 AM

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people who complain about "the drop in quality of the story" majorly misunderstood the story, to begin with... season 1 was ok but saying the character had "growth" is funnier than any Amy Schumer joke. If anything season 1 was just a stretched out intro to what danmachi really is, a fairy tale. Season 2 is by far way more superior than season 1 in the way of character development from the side characters to the main character and no "growth" is not measured by how big of a boom he can make but with his way of thought and his maturity which have considerably grown in this new season

Sep 6, 2019 2:44 PM

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Danmachi is a story about Bell becoming a Hero. S1 was about Bell surpassing his fear and giving his first step towards herohood, but he didnt grew much in terms of character or power (people overstimate the minotaur fight way too much). Starting with the Ishtar's arc he starts becoming more of a hero and finally after the Xenos arc he matures a lot and becomes stronger and badass. But that building up takes time, people are too used to Gary Stu MCs.

There is also the fact that JC Staff has butchered the main source and made a very poor adaptation. If you liked S1 i recommend reading the novels instead, they are way better and there is a lot that has been skipped.

Sep 8, 2019 5:37 PM

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[quote=Siegfried10 message=58325642]Danmachi is a story about Bell becoming a Hero. S1 was about Bell surpassing his fear and giving his first step towards herohood, but he didnt grew much in terms of character or power (people overstimate the minotaur fight way too much). Starting with the Ishtar's arc he starts becoming more of a hero and finally after the Xenos arc he matures a lot and becomes stronger and badass. But that building up takes time, people are too used to Gary Stu MCs.
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I don't like gary stue ever (synonym of no development), but Bell is the worst crybaby I've ever seen...

Sep 9, 2019 3:28 AM

harshtruth

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Meh, Danmachi is just SAO but shit.

Sep 11, 2019 3:23 AM

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harshtruth said:
Meh, Danmachi is just SAO but shit.

You mean both are shit

Sep 11, 2019 4:46 PM

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To me personally bell as a character is trash he goes around in circles, he develops a bit then goes back to square one like bro did you forget what you learn already and the writing is a bit poor I dunno man the first season was strangely entertainmening and felt better the second season I don't know what they are doing here with the writing

Sep 13, 2019 3:55 PM

Blood214

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Not good story, so bored so far 2\10

Sep 13, 2019 5:04 PM

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I just want the story to resume being the story about a bunch of people and their gods clearing a dungeon, so much simpler and all the show needs to be.

This kind of show was not setup for such a dynamic and 'deep' story line.

Sep 13, 2019 8:56 PM

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Hungrydavo

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OP is right. Praise OP.

Sep 14, 2019 6:11 AM

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I mean, when the anime looks bad, everything looks bad in it. I dont even think the story right now is that much worse compared to s1, but the anime just looks horrible. Animation is horrible. The fights are terribly animated. The show just got a huge downgrade.

JC Staff does it again, I guess.

Sep 20, 2019 8:29 PM

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Ammar6145

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Yeah its even worse when they dicide to put more scene on that annoying hestia

Nov 6, 2019 11:48 AM

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EmpireAnime

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I Don't know why, but I really didn't enjoy this season although I gave the first one a 10/10 .
I am really sad that it went this bad 😫

Nov 24, 2019 4:09 PM

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Yeh this season really didnt blow me away like the minatour fight in S1. Bell was just a forgotten side character in S2 and it just focused too much in the side story territory without any significant battle moments.

Dec 12, 2019 6:37 PM

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Siegfried10 said:
Danmachi is a story about Bell becoming a Hero. S1 was about Bell surpassing his fear and giving his first step towards herohood, but he didnt grew much in terms of character or power (people overstimate the minotaur fight way too much). Starting with the Ishtar's arc he starts becoming more of a hero and finally after the Xenos arc he matures a lot and becomes stronger and badass. But that building up takes time, people are too used to Gary Stu MCs.

There is also the fact that JC Staff has butchered the main source and made a very poor adaptation. If you liked S1 i recommend reading the novels instead, they are way better and there is a lot that has been skipped.

Can you tell me more about how the novel differs and the quality of the source material? I loved season 1 and its spinoff. And I just started two and want to enjoy it as much since I was looking forward to it. I plan on reading the book at some point and if it's far superior I might start sooner rather then later

Dec 12, 2019 6:38 PM

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iCanFlyYouNot said:
@ OP:

it is not like i am a pro in writing critics, but i can agree on your feeling: the drop of quality regarding the story in the anime adaption.

unfortunately the anime gives the feeling that the quality of story dropped. i agree with that. if you really want to full quality of story, you should maybe start to read the light novels. i can personally say that the light novel story quality is awesome compared to what the anime did (especially what they did in season 2). so basically, the original story provided by the light novel has really good quality and is very enjoyable. but the adaption into an anime failed a little bit in season 2.

so if you actually are into this type of story want to enjoy this story, but the anime fails for you, then i would recommend you to start the light novels. they were alot more enjoyable for me compared to the anime (especially season 2).

Can you tell me more about how the anime and novel differ?

Dec 15, 2019 4:14 PM

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iCanFlyYouNot said:

Kursed95 said:

Can you tell me more about how the anime and novel differ?

this is just an example, but: lets say, in the anime, Bell sees an enemy and hesitates for 5 sec and then dashes in to fight him. but in the light novel there are like.. 2 or 3 page about what he is thinking and some doubts or concerns about this enemy. which fills these 5 sec with the real stuff.

thats why the anime feels like so rushed. since they cant capture every thoughts and feelings writting in words, into a animated television scene. there is a whole book about .. Topic A. while the anime only invested 1 or maximal 2 episode into this Topic A. in my opinion there are worldly differences between the anime and light novel. im not saying the anime is made bad.. but unfortunately they arent able the capture the same quality in this case.

thank you for the reply. I think I'll start looking for the novels. But honestly now that I finished the season, I still enjoyed it a lot. I've always enjoy both mediums of what I read and watch pretty equally for the benefits of each. Like audio and visuals for the show and more info for the novel :)

Dec 17, 2019 10:58 AM

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HaarWyvern said:

well I guess I'm not the only one who hate bell for being a useless crybaby.

Dec 17, 2019 12:03 PM

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HaarWyvern

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Avichii said:

HaarWyvern said:

well I guess I'm not the only one who hate bell for being a useless crybaby.

It's my worst character ever with Tsukamoto from Days.
I want to slap him everytime.

May 21, 2020 10:43 PM

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Xzhi

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Yeah it's not the same.

But Bell being a crybaby is cute.

Sep 30, 2020 9:53 PM

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The prequel was good because it's a story about the underdogs trying to stay together and do their best when they could just leave and find something better. A goddess living in a delapidated church, sucking up her pride and work multiple side jobs just to give her child the best gift she can think of brings a powerful message. But that theme gets lost once they had that mansion and so the quality drops.

Oct 2, 2020 7:27 AM

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DarkSageRK

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I wish I was dumb enough to dislike DanMachi. Life would be so convenient.

Oct 16, 2020 11:46 AM

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qui9o

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How did they ruin it THAT bad. it feels aLmost intentional. tHerE wAS sO mUcH pOteNtIaL *cRies*

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