| My answer for anyone who sees this thread and didn't watch the show yet: watch it yourself ofc, before jumping to the typical "overrated" conclusions, and then you'll see the potential this anime has. Simple as that |
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Zerity said: @Ryuseishun no its true if u take 3 seconds to look. This dude name GinGabooster had made 87 accounts last time i checked and maybe more now and he has given this show a 10 each time and that is only 1 person doing it. He is also the reason many new manga/LN r high up on the manga list like the sakura quest Just wanted to know, how do you identify that 'GinGabooster' made the booster accounts and how do You know the number of accounts made?? And also what about taking 3 seconds to check, not taking it literally can it be checked in a minute or 2?? Well looking at statistics page, it is natural that about 25% of votes are fakes, 24% for 10 and 1% for 1. Removing them will give rating around 8.05-8.10. |
| 'I have no bonds tying me down. That's why I can see things as they are!!' - Yugami |
| @FurbyOfDeth Yeah, for anime with so many seasons like Symphogear, it's not necessarily going to get a higher score every single time. With season 5, only 1500 users have it on their list though, so that's probably why the score is so high since they're going to be big fans. Some people only rate when the anime has finished. But in general, the second season gets a higher score. Season 2 of Higurashi, Mob Psycho 100, My hero academia and many more all follow this trend. When you start getting seasons after two, things tend to fluctuate more. There are cases where the second season is ranked a lot lower than the first, like with Osomatsu-san. Where the second season was noticeably a downgrade from the first. |
| Even if a consecutive season gets a lower score than the one before it the fact that being a sequel increases score is still true. If it’s getting lower scores it’s because most people consider it worse than the last one. However the sequel effect is still there, because it’d be *even lower* if it wasn’t a sequel |
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HaXXspetten said: Even if a consecutive season gets a lower score than the one before it the fact that being a sequel increases score is still true. If it’s getting lower scores it’s because most people consider it worse than the last one. However the sequel effect is still there, because it’d be *even lower* if it wasn’t a sequel Yup, this is mostly true (99.9% times), unless something changes like Director/Studio. If people don't like the change it might actually get lower score than it deserves!! Examples: Kemono Friends 2 (Director change - Controversy) OPM S2 (Studio Change) I believe OPM S2 is still over-rated but it is (probably) because of manga--hype and not due to sequel effect. In-fact, I believe the sequel-effect actually contributed negatively to its score!! |
shubh_jain_2Aug 26, 2019 1:34 PM
| 'I have no bonds tying me down. That's why I can see things as they are!!' - Yugami |
FurbyOfDeth said: shubh_jain_2 said: Just wanted to know, how do you identify that 'GinGabooster' made the booster accounts and how do You know the number of accounts made?? And also what about taking 3 seconds to check, not taking it literally can it be checked in a minute or 2?? Well looking at statistics page, it is natural that about 25% of votes are fakes, 24% for 10 and 1% for 1. Removing them will give rating around 8.05-8.10. that is quite interesting! i like it when i see people that menchen "statistics" and then give eveidence to back it up :) speaking of. Somthing interesting acording to stutistics :) if you look at the PULLs for each episode indiviualy the last 3 have like a 95% on 5 while most of the ones befor it are closer to 80% wich may help explane the sudden jump in ratting meaning people seem to have liked the last 3 episodse way more than the onse before it which supports the "higher rating becose ist better" theary but with only the avid fans still around seams to point a little twords the "higher becose of fanboys theary" so my ance is "maby a little bit of both" cant wait to wach teh last two episods been a bit bussy so havent gotten around to it yet Well, lots of bots for this series, it is even worse for "Mo Dao Zu Shi 2", but unlike here, its rating is actually decreasing due to fakes!! 4.8% 1s -> 0.8% and 49% 10s -> (25-28)% 10s [25-27% fakes here too] . Then all these ratings are upscaled by 4/3 (so they sum up 100%) [unnecessary step to calc rating but fun step if trying to compare with graphs of other series!!]. This gives it rating close to almost 8.7 !! (instead of current 8.56). |
shubh_jain_2Aug 26, 2019 1:45 PM
| 'I have no bonds tying me down. That's why I can see things as they are!!' - Yugami |
| Too bad this is a spiral, sine it now has attracted 1/10 voters as well. It saddens me, that this fantastic show has become the playground of some five year old kids. |
| The most recent Symphogear season has a lot of bots affecting its score atm so I don't think people should try to jump to too many conclusions on it based on its statistics |
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Sury said: Too bad this is a spiral, sine it now has attracted 1/10 voters as well. It saddens me, that this fantastic show has become the playground of some five year old kids. That's the most fucked up part of this situation. I honestly don't care as much as I initially thought I should. I do strongly think that this season does deserve the higher ratings compared to the prequels because the animation quality and all the plot points from the entirety of the story are converging for a finale. |
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MehmetY said: 4000 people are watching this show right now but only 1600 people voted and probably only 150-200 votes are from bots. I think it'll down to around 8.20 after it ends and real people start to rate. Yea the season is bound to get at least 8.00 if anything, as I've stated a couple of times already. Tbh, the whole overrated thing is still kinda subjective when you got stuff like Boku No Hero Academia, Shingeki no Kyojin, among other things. |
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| The best anime of the year cannot be overrated. Y'all just salty because a good anime got the recognition it deserves. |
ninryuAug 27, 2019 6:23 AM
Dr19 said: Those are the bots that I've found till page 5. I am not going to search any further. You can realise that if there are that many bots for just 5 pages, there must be at least 200-300 bots that rated 10. The problem is, the upvoting has also attracted downvoters. Most of those are legitmate accounts, so deleting the upvoting bots would push the score lower than it actually would be. |
MehmetY said: Sury said: The problem is, the upvoting has also attracted downvoters. Most of those are legitmate accounts, so deleting the upvoting bots would push the score lower than it actually would be. Even if they don't ban the bots the score will be back to 8.20 after the show ends and real people start to voting. Hard to say how it'll turn out, since the 1/10 voters have set their watching status to "completed", so they'll extra weight. Also many fans like me agree that this might turn out to be the best season. We'll see. It is what it is right now. |
FurbyOfDeth said: Sury said: The problem is, the upvoting has also attracted downvoters. Most of those are legitmate accounts, so deleting the upvoting bots would push the score lower than it actually would be. I sent in a report to my anime list already but if you could send that list to them as well I think that would be a big help for them According to the rules, this is no reason for reporting such an account. If it's legitimate, you have to discuss this with the account holders themseves, if I'm not mistaken. |
FurbyOfDeth said: MAL won't manually ban accounts like this anymore since August 10th. That's the whole reason people suddenly started doing it so much in the last week or twoSury said: The problem is, the upvoting has also attracted downvoters. Most of those are legitmate accounts, so deleting the upvoting bots would push the score lower than it actually would be. I sent in a report to my anime list already but if you could send that list to them as well I think that would be a big help for them We just have to wait until the database staff implement a backend solution to the problem instead as Kineta hinted they would |
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HaXXspetten said: FurbyOfDeth said: MAL won't manually ban accounts like this anymore since August 10th. That's the whole reason people suddenly started doing it so much in the last week or twoI sent in a report to my anime list already but if you could send that list to them as well I think that would be a big help for them We just have to wait until the database staff implement a backend solution to the problem instead as Kineta hinted they would I doubt they ever will find a solution anytime soon. Also, I would think they still would ban accounts that violate Community Standards and stuff. If that isn’t possible anymore, that’s not a good sign to say the least. But then again, when has anytime gone right for MAL in terms of handling bot accounts? |
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Ryuseishun said: Kineta said that they had already simulated a backend solution that they've been working on and that it seemed to work decently. But as for how long it'll take to get working in practice, who knowsHaXXspetten said: MAL won't manually ban accounts like this anymore since August 10th. That's the whole reason people suddenly started doing it so much in the last week or two We just have to wait until the database staff implement a backend solution to the problem instead as Kineta hinted they would I doubt they ever will find a solution anytime soon. Also, I would think they still would ban accounts that violate Community Standards and stuff. If that isn’t possible anymore, that’s not a good sign to say the least. But then again, when has anytime gone right for MAL in terms of handling bot accounts? |
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| Thread locked Score threads don't encourage discussion, only arguments and baiting between people who liked and disliked the show. As for being overrated we already have a thread for discussing overrated/underrated anime: [url=https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1504768]Most Overrated/Underrated Anime Discussion Thread v.5 |
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