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Jan 8, 2019 7:51 AM
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Lets not give Kadokawa what they want.

by going the Konami route, and thinking they can fire the heart and soul of the creation on his birthday, and still have the gall to make a second season.


Download and pirate all you want, but don't buy Kemono Friends merch and the blu rays.
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Wei_z_Mei said:
Lets not give Kadokawa what they want.

by going the Konami route, and thinking they can fire the heart and soul of the creation on his birthday, and still have the gall to make a second season.


Download and pirate all you want, but don't buy Kemono Friends merch and the blu rays.

Couldn't agree more. The only real way to make your voice heard is with your money.
Jan 8, 2019 4:26 PM
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I'd say unless you are a diehard tatsuki/yaoyorozu hater, butthurt kadokawa/KFP committee whiteknight, or emotionally invested kemono friends seiyuu fans, I can't think any single reason to buy the BD (around $55 each vol, $220 in total) without being able to enjoy the continuation from the first season.

I personally don't care if they change director/producer/script/studio, as long as the story still continues. Kaban-chan & serval travelling to another areas, etc


way to be dismissive. You are basically willing to be ignorant because you just want to mindlessly consume.

You must also think Lootboxes in 60+ dollar games are okay because you can "just ignore them"
Jan 8, 2019 7:58 PM
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tsuzukiri said:
I'd say unless you are a diehard tatsuki/yaoyorozu hater, butthurt kadokawa/KFP committee whiteknight, or emotionally invested kemono friends seiyuu fans, I can't think any single reason to buy the BD (around $55 each vol, $220 in total) without being able to enjoy the continuation from the first season.

I personally don't care if they change director/producer/script/studio, as long as the story still continues. Kaban-chan & serval travelling to another areas, etc

sorry to break it to you but its not a sequel but a reboot so no kaban-chan and no continuation :|
Jan 9, 2019 3:39 PM
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To be honest I don't support any anime that I've watched anyways aside from maybe buying few stuff that are available on my end so that might not be applied to me.

But I'll only judge it if it works on it's own. Despite being salty about it. Blame Kadokawa, not the new staff (the people behind it were just hired that's all).
Jan 9, 2019 3:41 PM
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tsuzukiri said:
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sorry to break it to you but its not a sequel but a reboot so no kaban-chan and no continuation :|


Wait what? O shit I didn't know that lol. I thought it's still a continuation from the first season with Kaban & serval travelling with new characters & etc. Damn that sucks, the title is very misleading.

If you followed the updates and the information then yeah this is not a continuation of the original. They are just probably going to start a new.
Jan 9, 2019 3:44 PM
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Wei_z_Mei said:
tsuzukiri said:
I'd say unless you are a diehard tatsuki/yaoyorozu hater, butthurt kadokawa/KFP committee whiteknight, or emotionally invested kemono friends seiyuu fans, I can't think any single reason to buy the BD (around $55 each vol, $220 in total) without being able to enjoy the continuation from the first season.

I personally don't care if they change director/producer/script/studio, as long as the story still continues. Kaban-chan & serval travelling to another areas, etc


way to be dismissive. You are basically willing to be ignorant because you just want to mindlessly consume.

You must also think Lootboxes in 60+ dollar games are okay because you can "just ignore them"


Not exactly per say "mindlessly consume". The person was just pointing out that as long as the series retained the original content of the first season then it shouldn't matter, regardless of the staff changes etc.

Though this isn't applied considering Kadokawa did a load of crap that lead to the downfall of their own money maker. Including a massive amount of censorship on twitter which is already giving a middle finger to their audience members.
Jan 10, 2019 1:47 AM
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I think I’ll wait to see how good or bad it is.
Jan 11, 2019 3:38 AM
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No Kaban or Serval, no watch. Firing the "heart and soul" of the show is unacceptable. I'm not looking forward to this anymore.
Jan 11, 2019 8:11 AM
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Stop raging because of Tatsuki jeez. This is it, ok ? You cant do anything about that, support tatsuki's new work this is all. Stop telling others "dont support this blablabla", I support the show if I want to.
Jan 11, 2019 8:57 AM
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And why we should even support this fake season 2 ?
Fans wanted season 2 continuation not reboot called "season 2".
Better support orginal than this fake.
Jan 11, 2019 11:11 AM
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And why we should even support this fake season 2 ?
Fans wanted season 2 continuation not reboot called "season 2".
Better support orginal than this fake.


Because I like the characters, seyiuu, fanbase and world of the anime ? And so I want to see more from this show. And we dont know if its a sequel or not yet.
Jan 12, 2019 11:01 AM

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Kemurikusa was a disappointed, I'm with Kadokawa now.
Jan 13, 2019 9:29 AM

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if it's good, i will support it, i'm not petty.
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Jan 14, 2019 1:13 AM

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S-Word said:
NTolegna said:

Because I like the characters, seyiuu, fanbase and world of the anime ? And so I want to see more from this show.


Hate to break it to you, but these aren't the characters you loved. It's by a completely different writer and director. Someone murdered the characters you loved, and now they're putting on a puppet show using their corpses.


I hate to agree with this. You can watch the minisodes from "Welcome to japari-park!" and see the game characters were radically different from the season 1 (for example, thr serval from the minisodes is annoying and dumb).

I really want to like kemofure2 but we don't know what we will see, other than it will be very different from what we liked. Every character and personality, from kaban-serval duo, wakaran jaguar and her sis otter, alpaca and the calm toki, the fox sisters, sunaneko-tsuchinoko, arai-san and fennec, no personality we know, and therefore no personality we love from the fan art will be there.

I really, really wish it is so good that the new version makes us forget about all the rea life problems that kadokawa created. Tomorrow we will know.
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Azumi-tei said:
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Hate to break it to you, but these aren't the characters you loved. It's by a completely different writer and director. Someone murdered the characters you loved, and now they're putting on a puppet show using their corpses.


I hate to agree with this. You can watch the minisodes from "Welcome to japari-park!" and see the game characters were radically different from the season 1 (for example, thr serval from the minisodes is annoying and dumb).

I really want to like kemofure2 but we don't know what we will see, other than it will be very different from what we liked. Every character and personality, from kaban-serval duo, wakaran jaguar and her sis otter, alpaca and the calm toki, the fox sisters, sunaneko-tsuchinoko, arai-san and fennec, no personality we know, and therefore no personality we love from the fan art will be there.

I really, really wish it is so good that the new version makes us forget about all the rea life problems that kadokawa created. Tomorrow we will know.
Do you really want to like the new season? Hahahaha all I hear is a bunch of whining and wild hallucinations. I’ve seen the mini series and it was excellent. All of the trolls running around here, trying to scare newcomers off make my skin crawl.
Jan 14, 2019 6:12 AM

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NoviSun said:
Do you really want to like the new season? Hahahaha all I hear is a bunch of whining and wild hallucinations. I’ve seen the mini series and it was excellent. All of the trolls running around here, trying to scare newcomers off make my skin crawl.


Good for you if you liked the minisodes too. Even if you liked them, you know that the point stands, the characters from the minisodes and the anime are different.

I do wish I like the new season. I liked the first season so much that I have been translating kemofure fanworks since kemofure1 was airing.

Some people who didn't want to support the new kemofure want to find that feeling in kemurikusa, but I feel that kemurikusa is not bad, but it doesn't feel like kemofure. If tomorrow, kemono friends 2 starts with a different direction, there will be nowhere to find the kemofure feels other than the fan artists.
Jan 14, 2019 6:48 AM

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I’ve seen the mini series and it was excellent


Yeah, it's excellent, just like the mobile game it's based on. You know, the game that flopped so fucking hard that it died before S1 aired (the anime that was meant to advertise it). If you remove the only thing that caused the franchise to succeed (S1), its appeal returns right back to where it was in 2016.
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Jan 14, 2019 7:37 AM
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KF2 didn't even air yet and it's already scoring higher than Kemurikusa. Go figure. Probably because Tatsuki's ideas are starting to get repetitive after four or five animes under the same post-apocalyptic formula with a self-insert main character that resembles him going from zero to hero.

Besides, Kaban's been hinted at showing up again in KF2, anyway.

Can't wait to watch this blossom like Season 1 did.
Jan 14, 2019 8:46 AM
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Kemurikusa was a disappointed, I'm with Kadokawa now.


To be fair, Kemurikusa is just only starting. Similarly the plot is just... weird but same goes to Kemono Friends S1, especially with the CG which. You know. Both of them had an issue with that? But that's just a pointer lel.
Jan 14, 2019 11:53 AM

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KF2 didn't even air yet and it's already scoring higher...


If the scores show a result of something that hasn't even happened that should be a clear sign that the scores are not to be taken seriously.

Maybe the kind of fan who scores something they like a lot before watching it is the same kind of fan who scores against something they hate without watching it.
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Azumi-tei said:
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KF2 didn't even air yet and it's already scoring higher...


If the scores show a result of something that hasn't even happened that should be a clear sign that the scores are not to be taken seriously.

Maybe the kind of fan who scores something they like a lot before watching it is the same kind of fan who scores against something they hate without watching it.


Pretty big words for a "fan" who doesn't even give it a watch, frankly.
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Wei_z_Mei said:
Lets not give Kadokawa what they want.

by going the Konami route, and thinking they can fire the heart and soul of the creation on his birthday, and still have the gall to make a second season.


Download and pirate all you want, but don't buy Kemono Friends merch and the blu rays.


I’ll support what I want to support. It might even be better than S1.
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Jan 15, 2019 3:42 AM
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Yeah, it's excellent, just like the mobile game it's based on. You know, the game that flopped so fucking hard that it died before S1 aired (the anime that was meant to advertise it). If you remove the only thing that caused the franchise to succeed (S1), its appeal returns right back to where it was in 2016.
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The Kemono fanbase is so cancerous. Kemurikusa is great but the autists would rather have a shitfit over something he isn't working on. I hope both of these sell well.
Jan 26, 2019 6:21 PM
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many people are lost to Kadokawa's pull. These people are not true fans.
Jan 27, 2019 3:54 AM

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Wei_z_Mei said:
many people are lost to Kadokawa's pull. These people are not true fans.

You are not in a position to criticize others when you haven't even seen anything else by Tatsuki. And all the people who only knew him from Kemono Friends don't really know him at all. I fully expected a large company like Kadokawa whose only concern is with profits to reconsider their ties with Tatsuki. Much as I love their work, it's not as if Datekoo's hiatus wasn't indicative of anything with this kind of scope.
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S-Word said:
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Because I like the characters, seyiuu, fanbase and world of the anime ? And so I want to see more from this show.


Hate to break it to you, but these aren't the characters you loved. It's by a completely different writer and director. Someone murdered the characters you loved, and now they're putting on a puppet show using their corpses.


To be fair, the director is competent.
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S-Word said:
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I’ve seen the mini series and it was excellent


Yeah, it's excellent, just like the mobile game it's based on. You know, the game that flopped so fucking hard that it died before S1 aired (the anime that was meant to advertise it). If you remove the only thing that caused the franchise to succeed (S1), its appeal returns right back to where it was in 2016.
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Glad to see your one man anti Kemono Friends operation goes on. You realize people are making up their own minds, rather than letting some old, tired and worn out troll decide for them.
Jan 28, 2019 2:38 PM
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Can someone explain me what happended? I'm a bit lost here
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now i decided to atleast give this a try but sadly it just isnt the same. its missing the spirit that the first season had. sure the animation is better but it feels like they are trying to mimic the first season a little too much.
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Can someone explain me what happended? I'm a bit lost here

well after the first season finished the director made an ova short and put it online for the fans. kadokawa saw this and didnt like it so they fired him from the project and basically stole his creation to make this second season which is a reboot with only 1 returning character so far.
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shign said:
Can someone explain me what happended? I'm a bit lost here

well after the first season finished the director made an ova short and put it online for the fans. kadokawa saw this and didnt like it so they fired him from the project and basically stole his creation to make this second season which is a reboot with only 1 returning character so far.


Only Serval's body returned, her brain was consumed by a cerulean. thus this season she is a "Aheheh, heeheehee - sug-oi" repeating machine, but never contributes any meaningful dialogue.
Jan 29, 2019 3:49 AM
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BuildLancer said:
shign said:
Can someone explain me what happended? I'm a bit lost here

well after the first season finished the director made an ova short and put it online for the fans. kadokawa saw this and didnt like it so they fired him from the project and basically stole his creation to make this second season which is a reboot with only 1 returning character so far.


Wow, I cant' imagine how japaneses will react because I heard they love kemono friend
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shign said:
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well after the first season finished the director made an ova short and put it online for the fans. kadokawa saw this and didnt like it so they fired him from the project and basically stole his creation to make this second season which is a reboot with only 1 returning character so far.


Wow, I cant' imagine how japaneses will react because I heard they love kemono friend


This is all old drama. Unlike in the West, most of the drama has already dissipated there, however, for a combination of factors, including but not limited to less missinformation among "fans".
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DatRandomDude said:
tsuzukiri said:
I'd say unless you are a diehard tatsuki/yaoyorozu hater, butthurt kadokawa/KFP committee whiteknight, or emotionally invested kemono friends seiyuu fans, I can't think any single reason to buy the BD (around $55 each vol, $220 in total) without being able to enjoy the continuation from the first season.

I personally don't care if they change director/producer/script/studio, as long as the story still continues. Kaban-chan & serval travelling to another areas, etc

sorry to break it to you but its not a sequel but a reboot so no kaban-chan and no continuation :|


Holy shit so that was the whole reason for all these rejection. Count me in.
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darkj25 said:
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sorry to break it to you but its not a sequel but a reboot so no kaban-chan and no continuation :|


Holy shit so that was the whole reason for all these rejection. Count me in.


It's wrong, then - anyone that watched past half an episode could've realized it is a sequel.
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Holy shit so that was the whole reason for all these rejection. Count me in.


It's wrong, then - anyone that watched past half an episode could've realized it is a sequel.


It's probably happening in the same universe, but it looks like a different park, the main characters are different, the secondary characters are different, the MC objective is different, even the cerulean are different, and the power balance between friends and cerulean seems different.

The only thing which suggests it might be a sequel is the opening shows fennec, arai-san, and the penguins, also a shadow of what seems to be kaban by a character which might be the serval who kaban traveled with.

I believe this serval might not be the same, but a sandstar clone from kaban's serval. This would make it easier to explain why she kinda remembers, and they could build a new story without having to explain what happened with the first season characters and their travel.
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It's wrong, then - anyone that watched past half an episode could've realized it is a sequel.


It's probably happening in the same universe, but it looks like a different park, the main characters are different, the secondary characters are different, the MC objective is different, even the cerulean are different, and the power balance between friends and cerulean seems different.

The only thing which suggests it might be a sequel is the opening shows fennec, arai-san, and the penguins, also a shadow of what seems to be kaban by a character which might be the serval who kaban traveled with.

I believe this serval might not be the same, but a sandstar clone from kaban's serval. This would make it easier to explain why she kinda remembers, and they could build a new story without having to explain what happened with the first season characters and their travel.


Basic rules of storytelling points that all of those will be addressed at some point, so we'll know somewhere in the next 9 weeks what happened. It looks pretty clear that they are steering towards ends meeting.
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Hmmm, no.

From what I gathered, Tatsuki used the characters (models) without authorization from Kadokawa. So Kadokawa was in the right to terminate the cooperation.

It's a shame, that he won't be involved with S2, but it's his own fault.

And it would be unfair towards the new staff, which is not responsible for Kadokawa's decision.

If it's good, I will support it. If not, I won't. Simple as that.
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Hmmm, no.

From what I gathered, Tatsuki used the characters (models) without authorization from Kadokawa. So Kadokawa was in the right to terminate the cooperation.

It's a shame, that he won't be involved with S2, but it's his own fault.

And it would be unfair towards the new staff, which is not responsible for Kadokawa's decision.

If it's good, I will support it. If not, I won't. Simple as that.


Preach, basically my mindset, although you're likely going to get a lot of hate now for saying that.

Tatsuki acting quite like a manchild after the event doesn't help, refusing deals that didn't guarantee him exceedingly lenient contract terms and even had one of his co-workers straight up call him unprofessional on the process of making another one of his projects (Hentatsu, if I recall).
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Hmmm, no.

From what I gathered, Tatsuki used the characters (models) without authorization from Kadokawa. So Kadokawa was in the right to terminate the cooperation.

It's a shame, that he won't be involved with S2, but it's his own fault.

And it would be unfair towards the new staff, which is not responsible for Kadokawa's decision.

If it's good, I will support it. If not, I won't. Simple as that.


Preach, basically my mindset, although you're likely going to get a lot of hate now for saying that.

Tatsuki acting quite like a manchild after the event doesn't help, refusing deals that didn't guarantee him exceedingly lenient contract terms and even had one of his co-workers straight up call him unprofessional on the process of making another one of his projects (Hentatsu, if I recall).


I couldn't care less.

I see. That's pretty bad. I had the impression, that he's not exactly the most professional person around.
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TheBigGuy said:
Hmmm, no.

From what I gathered, Tatsuki used the characters (models) without authorization from Kadokawa. So Kadokawa was in the right to terminate the cooperation.


I did not know that information before. So I guess Kadokawa is right in removing him.
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i dont get it, so this is not a sequel of kemono friends?
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TheBigGuy said:
Hmmm, no.

From what I gathered, Tatsuki used the characters (models) without authorization from Kadokawa. So Kadokawa was in the right to terminate the cooperation.


I did not know that information before. So I guess Kadokawa is right in removing him.


Actually no, that's what kadokawa said at first, but it was cleared later. Now, almost two years later, you can still find the basuteki chapter on tatsuki's channel and kadokawa is happily selling toys and merchandise from that chapter too.

The truth is we will never know the full story. Kadokawa has all the rights to do as they wish with their IP, but in my opinion firing the director on his birthday, accusing him of misusing the characters, and then making the voice actresses apologize for their company poor PR is deplorable.

I find it silly and sad that some people seem to have a thing against the director who saved the franchise, because let's be honest, we saw all these game, second seaoson and other projects only because season 1 was a hit.

If someone likes season 2, it's perfectly fine to support it. No need to bash on the ones who made the first season.
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Well....This proves about why not support the show, despite the video be in japanese.




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