| Do people hate this director, or is there something more behind this score? Is it the CGI? Shouldn't it need way more people to be able to even have a score? |
SteelingMaxJan 9, 2019 6:20 PM
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| I just hope that somebody subs at least the first episode today since Netflix Japan will be releasing them all |
SteelingMax said: Do people hate this director, or is there something more behind this score? Shouldn't it need way more people to be able to even have a score? Yea same just ignore it |
| It's to be expected. There is an inherent bias against 3D shows, nine times out of ten. Personally, I think otherwise. Don't jump to quick conclusions about whether the series is good or bad only based on that factor. Much less when only a few people are watching it and you don't know what they think. I am seeing a lot more positive reactions on Japanese Twitter though, so keep that in mind. |
| this director did other 3DCG shows too like Active Raid and ID-0 that is scored so low too 3DCG shows are underrated here on MAL |
TheEnhancedExe said: Well, Japan loves their mecha series of course. I'm looking forward to watching it, but I have pretty low expectations given the director hasn't done any noteworthy anime since Code Geass although Code Geass is my favourite anime. Code Geass is already getting a shiny new movie next month, so it's not like the director wants to make the same kind of show right now. He doesn't need to. I saw the first episode of Revisions and it reminded me of Infinite Ryvius from back in the day. Not identical, but a similar enough feeling. |
GolbeztheGreatJan 9, 2019 4:08 PM
Tokoya said: I just hope that somebody subs at least the first episode today since Netflix Japan will be releasing them all Wait, this show is only for Japan and isn't licenced anywhere else? Damn I was really interested in checking it out. Hope someone subs it sooner rather than later. OT: It's CGI show and for many people if something is CG then it's automatically shit. Like how Houseki no Kuni was under 7 at the start. Even if this show ends up being really good, it will probably still be underrated because it's CGI and original (not based on a popular source material). |
| wouldn't pay it any attention watch a few episodes yourself and make your own decision :P |
 アニメの幼女を見てるのが楽しいぜ |
| Seems to be subbed already, looks like someone ripped eng subs off netflix |
| Objectivity? In my anime scoring? Of course not... |
Ryuuryota said: wouldn't pay it any attention watch a few episodes yourself and make your own decision :P Did you even read my original post? I'm not afraid of watching this because of the score, i just wanted to know the reason for it to be so low. |
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Aboar said: The entire season it seems tooSeems to be subbed already, looks like someone ripped eng subs off netflix |
| I assume Netflix has only uploaded the subs for the Japanese site and not elsewhere. So some person took them. It should get a dub later. |
J_LEE_C said: Tokoya said: The entire season it seems too Yeah, does anyone know what's up with that? I'm getting ready to download the entire 12-ep untouched netflix version fully subbed. I thought it was a scam at first, I almost couldn't believe it lol Not just the subs, but also the episodes themselves???? where? |
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TheEnhancedExe said: I'm well aware of the new Code Geass movie although I don't really have high expectations for the movie either. I hope at least Taniguchi knows what he is doing. At least he didn't direct Boukoku no Akito, which gives me hope that it might be better than that. However again, it has been like 10 years since he has done anything worth mentioning. Also idk how hard it is to direct an original anime movie and an original anime tv series at the same time, but it might lower the quality of both. I also don't expect it to become a show similar to Code Geass. I know this guy was able to write a good story, but it worries me that not a single one of his most recent original anime was anything special. If the others weren't anything special, there's a good chance this one won't be either. Directors don't directly write stories, most of the time. They work with other staff members. Which has an impact on the end result. I would politely disagree about what is "worthy of mention" but obviously he hasn't been making mass appeal anime. Which is fine by me. Not everything needs to be for a mainstream audience. I happen to like his recent shows because they target niche contents that are within my own interests. Code Geass is meant to reach a large public. Other shows aren't, but I still enjoy several of them even if the audience is limited and a bunch of folks find them to be boring. Which is a personal opinion in any event. Nobody has the final word on any anime. That's open to debate. Who decides if something is special? MAL ratings? In any case, feel free to make up your own mind. As will I. |
GolbeztheGreatJan 9, 2019 9:02 PM
| Huge fan of this show. After 10 episodes I have it at a 9/10 and depending on how it ends, it could be one of my rare 10/10s. Presentation truly is top-notch. |
| The score went to 7.2 now it's back in the 6's with a even lower score. I just hate these people |
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SteelingMax said: The score went to 7.2 now it's back in the 6's with a even lower score. I just hate these people Don't worry, once the masses have watched all of the episodes, the score will shoot right up like Houseki no Kuni did. |
| Also just want to add that if you watch all the episodes back-to-back like I am, it will feel like watching a supersized movie. That's how well the story flows. |
J_LEE_C said: That's how Netflix works.....Every episode gets released all at once unless they chose to simulcast it like what they did with Violet Evergarden last yearTokoya said: The entire season it seems too Yeah, does anyone know what's up with that? I'm getting ready to download the entire 12-ep untouched netflix version fully subbed. I thought it was a scam at first, I almost couldn't believe it lol |
ycleped said: I'll probably spend most of the day binging it all thenAlso just want to add that if you watch all the episodes back-to-back like I am, it will feel like watching a supersized movie. That's how well the story flows. |
Tokoya said: ycleped said: I'll probably spend most of the day binging it all thenAlso just want to add that if you watch all the episodes back-to-back like I am, it will feel like watching a supersized movie. That's how well the story flows. I definitely would recommend. Nothing but good things to say about this. |
SteelingMax said: The score went to 7.2 now it's back in the 6's with a even lower score. I just hate these people Just enjoy what you enjoy man. It's time to put a stop to assigning quality of a show to MAL scores (which doesn't even affect Japan in any case). It is childish and only leads to such threads. "Why can't others like the same things that I like?". Since there is no definite way to interpret MAL scores -> Multiply the score with 10 and that is the percentage of how likely that show is going to appeal to you. 6.64? 66.4% chance for you to like the show, 33.6% you won't like the show. You like the show? Well you know which category you lie in. Simple. |
KreatorX said: SteelingMax said: The score went to 7.2 now it's back in the 6's with a even lower score. I just hate these people Just enjoy what you enjoy man. It's time to put a stop to assigning quality of a show to MAL scores (which doesn't even affect Japan in any case). It is childish and only leads to such threads. "Why can't others like the same things that I like?". Since there is no definite way to interpret MAL scores -> Multiply the score with 10 and that is the percentage of how likely that show is going to appeal to you. 6.64? 66.4% chance for you to like the show, 33.6% you won't like the show. You like the show? Well you know which category you lie in. Simple. i'm just talking about people who give 1's to shows they haven't even watched |
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J_LEE_C said: I gotcha bro, my badTokoya said: That's how Netflix works.....Every episode gets released all at once unless they chose to simulcast it like what they did with Violet Evergarden last year Yes...I know...I have Netflix. My point wasn't that I was "surprised Netflix released it all at the same time", but that it was released via Netflix in addtiion to an episode airing weekly on Fuji TV. Most of the chatter leading up to this I'd only heard that it was releasing on Fuji TV network weekly; I was unaware/had not heard that the show was also going to be released on Netflix in Japan. Hence, my surprise. Not about Netflix releasing entire seasons at a time, but at it being on Netflix already to begin with since its *also* doing a weekly episode on a japanese television network (instead of waiting until after the season finishes airing on the network to THEN be put onto Netflix in Japan). ycleped said: Make an episode 12 thread so you can post your thoughts there and I'll do the same when I'm doneTokoya said: I'll probably spend most of the day binging it all then I definitely would recommend. Nothing but good things to say about this. |
Yes, but that is an assumption you have made for yourself. I could also claim that those 3 users who gave it a 1 are from Japan after having watched it. Furthermore, this anime's listing is kinda weird given how the show is complete. Nevertheless, those reasons are discussed above. I am really starting to think a binary like/dislike system should be implemented for the scoring, and scores be understood in terms of percentage. Wrt MAL's scoring, anything above 5 should be called "liked" while anything 5 and below should be seen as "disliked". Baseline : MAL scores don't affect the future of any animation produced in Japan, don't give it too much importance. Why do people give it a 1? Well they found it to be a waste of time! It's their loss, not yours. Entertainment is all about investment and return. Low investment -> low score or dislike. High investment -> high score or like. |
KreatorX said: Yes, but that is an assumption you have made for yourself. I could also claim that those 3 users who gave it a 1 are from Japan after having watched it. Furthermore, this anime's listing is kinda weird given how the show is complete. Nevertheless, those reasons are discussed above. I am really starting to think a binary like/dislike system should be implemented for the scoring, and scores be understood in terms of percentage. Wrt MAL's scoring, anything above 5 should be called "liked" while anything 5 and below should be seen as "disliked". Baseline : MAL scores don't affect the future of any animation produced in Japan, don't give it too much importance. Why do people give it a 1? Well they found it to be a waste of time! It's their loss, not yours. Entertainment is all about investment and return. Low investment -> low score or dislike. High investment -> high score or like. I don't really think the like/dislike scoring system works, it's horrible on Rotten Tomatoes and on Netflix. I'm all for a 4 star system(1-3 = 1 star, 4-5 = 2 stars, 6-7 = 3 stars and 8-10 = 4 stars) or a 20 points score, where i'm able to give half points. But MAL could also take into account the Mean Score of the user as one of the factors on the score formula, a 10 from a person with an 8 mean score shouldn't have the same weight form someone with a 6 mean score. It could be something like Given Score by User to x Anime divided by the User's Mean Score, then you would throw it in the current equation. Daniel_Naumov said: Yeah looks nothing like something I would make. Or at least be proud making. I will just skip to the episode 12 discussion thread and see what others have to say on this. Oh wait this is not a discussion thread. Congratulations, I've played myself. Just read the review on the anime's main page, people haven't watched all the way through yet. |
SteelingMaxJan 9, 2019 10:48 PM
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SteelingMax said: I don't really think the like/dislike scoring system works, it's horrible on Rotten Tomatoes and on Netflix. I'm all for a 4 star system(1-3 = 1 star, 4-5 = 2 stars, 6-7 = 3 stars and 8-10 = 4 stars) or a 20 points score, where i'm able to give half points. I see, but the 4 star system is also no different than the 10-point system MAL uses. The 20-point system is just an extension of it. I can clearly picture a thread like 2.2 stars with only 10 users? and the concomitant discussion will still be as it is. My point being that Rotten Tomatoes normally gives a clear picture on how many people liked it or not. However, MAL's scoring system is intentionally vague and as a result then we have the umpteenth why is the score so high / why is the score so low thread. Which then spreads onto other boards on accounts of treating the score as some form of quality indicator. "If the score is 9, then it has to be REALLY be good". No, it just means people had a very favourable impression of the show. To people new to the show, it just means they have a higher chance of liking the show. It has nothing to do with quality. Perception of quality is an individual thing. Regardless, I like to keep the assessment simple when just dealing with arbitrary numbers. |
KreatorX said: SteelingMax said: I don't really think the like/dislike scoring system works, it's horrible on Rotten Tomatoes and on Netflix. I'm all for a 4 star system(1-3 = 1 star, 4-5 = 2 stars, 6-7 = 3 stars and 8-10 = 4 stars) or a 20 points score, where i'm able to give half points. I see, but the 4 star system is also no different than the 10-point system MAL uses. The 20-point system is just an extension of it. I can clearly picture a thread like 2.2 stars with only 10 users? and the concomitant discussion will still be as it is. My point being that Rotten Tomatoes normally gives a clear picture on how many people liked it or not. However, MAL's scoring system is intentionally vague and as a result then we have the umpteenth why is the score so high / why is the score so low thread. Which then spreads onto other boards on accounts of treating the score as some form of quality indicator. "If the score is 9, then it has to be REALLY be good". No, it just means people had a very favourable impression of the show. To people new to the show, it just means they have a higher chance of liking the show. It has nothing to do with quality. Perception of quality is an individual thing. Regardless, I like to keep the assessment simple when just dealing with arbitrary numbers. It would be something more like a 2.7/2.8 stars, and as you can see, you perceive that as a way better score than 6.6/6.8. Sure, the 20 point system is just an extension of the one we already have, but i just feel like i need 6.5, 7.5 and 8.5 to better score my anime, 100 points is just too much imo though. The 4 star system completely throws of that all away, giving you only the Horrible, Bad, Good and Great scores, making it way more easy for people that actually don't think that much before giving a score, but not so much like the dumb down like/dislike version. I really don't like the percentages style, just look at Black Panther, it has a 97% on RT, it makes no sense though for an average Superhero movie to have such high "score", and don't even start me with Netflix where people only vote if they really like the movie, so it's not even everyone that saw it voting. I rather have an idea of how "good" something is with a score then seeing how many people didn't like it with the percentages, because that's what it is, if a movie on RT gets an arbitrary 5.5 from every reviewer, the show gets certified fresh with 100%, nowadays there is so much TV, movies, anime, manga, games, we actually need this scoring systems to at least give us some guidance, and the ones we get aren't really that helpful. Plus, no one should be able to give scores before watching over 10% of the show, unless you dropped it. |
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| I'm doing binge watching now but this anime is awesome!! If you can watch this I highly recommend it |
| I wish Netflix would have a single world wide release. I feel like the wait just kills all the hype for western audiences. Hi score girl was another underwatched Netflix anime that was released months after the Japanese release. I think Devilman Crybaby has been Netflix most popular anime because it was released at the same time as in Japan. Man that show really surprised me, suddenly appearing on Netflix. The wait for a legal stream and the complete lack of hype because everything is available at once is really bad for a series popularity. I wish they would stream it like one of those Korean shows, on a weekly basis with two episodes a week. |
ShadowHunter007 said: SteelingMax said: I don't see how they hate director when the director is well known for many shows that also adored in this site and has higher rating than few other better director's show. Do people hate this director, or is there something more behind this score? Is it the CGI? Shouldn't it need way more people to be able to even have a score? It's more or less CGI and some people did not like the trailer or maybe didn't get the appeal after watching the anime too. People on MAL hate Code Geass |
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I have already understood your point but I don't perceive 2.7/2.8 as a better score than 6.6/6.8. They are same thing when you take into account the upper limits, lol. I mean, if someone came to me saying this movie just got 5/10, while another person comes to me and says "yeah, it was a 2/4 star movie", it's the same thing. As for the percentages, you just reinforced my point with that example of Black Panther. The audience gave it 79% approval. It is not high. As for critics it was 97%, sure. If you are a critic, then you lie in the 3% bracket who had no favourable impression of the movie. If you are the audience, they you lie in the 21% of audience who didn't find the movie noteworthy. And there's nothing really hard to understand in that. :) As for whether you like or dislike the % system, that is another thing. However, it will definitely lessen the number of instances where people are simply upset with mere numbers given to the show, especially when you know that these numbers really don't represent any measure of the show. These numbered scores are just measures of your own enjoyment. If you really want to have an "idea" of how good something is, then you are completely missing the point that an anime such as Revisions is NOT catered towards everyone, so what you think is "good" is capable of being called "shit" by others. As a side note, I agree with you to an extent and with such a numbered system on MAL (or any platform), the score should ONLY be given after you complete the anime. It will atleast prevent people going crazy with just 1 episode released. |
KreatorXJan 10, 2019 7:35 AM
SteelingMax said: can't remember if i did or not eitherway i wouldn't really pay attention to scores every1 has different tastes etcRyuuryota said: wouldn't pay it any attention watch a few episodes yourself and make your own decision :P Did you even read my original post? I'm not afraid of watching this because of the score, i just wanted to know the reason for it to be so low. |
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