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imSOunique said: Short_Circut said: SHE LEFT HER YOUNG DAUGHTER JUST SO SHE COULD GET BETTER AT BADMINTON hahahahahaha kill me now I like it that they didn’t try to come up with an acceptable reason and fail (since I don’t think there is one), rather give an obviously bad answer, that normal people wouldn’t accept (neighter do I), but from Uchika’s perspective it kinda makes sense, because: DirectorK said: The thing you need to understand about Uchika is that she's a badminton fanatic. To her, badminton comes first and everything else is second. And that includes Ayano and Connie. If you look back at their previous conversations through flashbacks in previous episodes, she always talking about badminton and not about them. She loves badminton so much she's oblivious to everything around her. In most other animes it is usually something like: OH, IT WAS JUST A BIIIIG MISUNDERSTANDING, and then a grand tear jerking reunion. Here there is no misunderstanding: Uchika thinks she’s right (from her own twisted perspective), and Ayano (and we) are rightfully like: wHath the hEll. Except...she was talking about them though (at least about Ayano). When she first decided to take Connie in she was talking all about Ayano and even when she came back she tried ample amounts of time to converse with her, so it's not like she completely exiled her from life. I'm pretty sure they didn't attempt to come up with an acceptable reason, cause there...really isn't any, to begin with. If there were problems like abuse or such then you can pass them in the realms of possibility but there's nothing absurdly wrong with the family afawk. But we all know this talk with Elena is going to either a.) give that bs tear-jerking redemption you mentioned or we're just gonna get another random excuse |
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Short_Circut said: Except...she was talking about them though (at least about Ayano). When she first decided to take Connie in she was talking all about Ayano and even when she came back she tried ample amounts of time to converse with her, so it's not like she completely exiled her from life. I'm pretty sure they didn't attempt to come up with an acceptable reason, cause there...really isn't any, to begin with. If there were problems like abuse or such then you can pass them in the realms of possibility but there's nothing absurdly wrong with the family afawk. But we all know this talk with Elena is going to either a.) give that bs tear-jerking redemption you mentioned or we're just gonna get another random excuse There's actually a third possibility: Tragedy followed by redemption. |
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BatWeeb said: SoraSenpai said: She wasn't brought onto this team to play Doubles though. This girl actually has the most pressure on her more then anyone else. That still doesn't excuse her shitty attitude towards everyone else. For an anime that gets praised for its "realism" with the characters they fail to deliver actual realism. In a real world scenario she would've already got bitch slapped by someone or even thrown out of the club. I understand Ayano's situation, she had a shitty life because of her shitty mother and no one was there to help her, but taking it out on others is never justified and in a truely realistic scenario it would only come to bite her in the ass. This is true. Her being thrown out of the club. For where we are at now though I feel like the writing is partially to blame as well. The author loaded up Ayano with a lot of pressure, being brough back into badminton, the coach telling her she had OLYMPIC potential and then everything with her mother. The middle episodes kind of put Ayano's story on the back burner to focus on the minor characters for no reason. A downfall of this anime unfortunately. I will agree that her attitude is over the top. I enjoy it though. It's just different from what you usually get from other Sports MC's |
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| two more episode to go :D, getting really hyped, hope Nagisa wins >.< |
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imSOunique said: Nobody asked you to sympathize with Kaoruko, Connie, Uchika or anybody. When a character cries while on-the-nose conventional sad music plays, as happened with both Kaoruko and Connie, that explicitly betrays an expectation on the part of the creators that the audience will sympathize with the crying character at that point. If apathy were an intended acceptable response, they would have smartly avoided that score choice. Silence would probably be the best option: if you do sympathize it's still sad, and if you don't, it doesn't feel like a failed emotional pull, or the in-media equivalent of one of those "If you didn't cry watching _____ then you don't have a heart" comments fans sometimes make. |
| what a trainwreck lol. i just hope this ends with nagisa beating ayano at least, the latter has really been pissing me off. |
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too much monkaS given in one episode for ayano expression |
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| I sometimes wonder if this show actually wants us to root for Ayano, and if that's the case, they're doing an awful job lol |
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imSOunique said: IMO the point was to show that, even though they (Kaoruko and Connie) kind of appeared as villains, they still just normal people. Also to show the two sides of the coin, for someone to win, someone else has to lose too. You can decide yourself if you sympathize with them or not. And if not a sad one, then what kind of song should they play? Trololo? (though I could live with that xd) The show invites the viewer to want "someone else to lose." In "normal" sports anime it's routine to first introduce a "villain" and then reveal who they really are, at which point it's a bit sad to see them fail. If you want, you can keep trying to convince me that it's my fault I kept balking and going "SERIOUSLY?!" at this show, but you won't do better than DirectorK. I suggested not using music at all in the post you quoted. If it had to have music, I'd go for something bleak, maybe some dark ambient / drone. Make it not pretty at all. That's the kind of aesthetic I'd prefer in a show intended to be a portrayal of human ugliness. |
| @imSOunique It makes sense that the exact attribute that turns some off draws others in. You're not the only one: nDroae said: I think this is the most interesting perspective I've seen on this show (emphasis added): https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3085516 Emdykay said: I am not exactly a fan of sports shows because I usally can´t gain acess to the character drama or flat out not take it seriously, so Hanebado throwing any pretense of seriousness or believabilty out of the window from the get go actually made this much more accessible and enjoyable. And also the mood whiplash and tonal shifts don´t hit me that hard, altough it could definetly cut down on the cheap fanservice. And yes I do hope the show won´t start trying to be reasonable anytime soon :D And more recently: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2018/09/25-1/crunchyroll-features-favorite-anime-of-summer-2018 Nate Ming: "The way Ayano transforms and reacts to badminton over the course of the show is so unique, and the show itself is such high melodrama, that I instantly fell in love with it, wanting to see what crazy new antics my dark daughter Ayano got up to next." Peter Fobian: "I love the narrative setup of sports anime: seeing an aspirational amateur or team and the creative ways these stories weave sports science into the story beats, but they usually fail to hold onto me. HANEBADO! turned this on its head, taking a few episodes for me to get involved but oh man am I glad I stuck with it. Instead of focusing on amateurs discovering the world of a sport subculture, HANEBADO! follows characters who are up to their necks in the worst parts of the competitive scene. It does so many things that I’m not sure other sports mangaka have even considered, and watching Hanesaki lose hope and lash out at her fellow competitors is one of the most strangely cathartic things I’ve ever watched." |
| The problem I have with Ayano is that she's always so inconsistent. Not even psychopats act like this. Other than that, it wasn't bad episode, kinda interested on how they game plays out from no on and how Ayano's mother steps in the game. If she really is her mother that is... What I want to say is that whole this anime would be (A LOT!) better off without Ayano alltogether. |
| That's her bullshit fucking reason? She wanted her to get better at badminton. LOL man I REALLY want Ayano to win and tell her mom she's abandoning her. I am getting way too worked up over this. |
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| A build-up episode. I will support Nagisa. I hate Ayano. |
| C'mon, Nagisa. Destroy her ass and then marry Riko. |
| Damn, still no rejection out there? Its no good to teasing people like that. The tension still sharp. But no slap face scenes until now. The mom keep the pressure, it sures give more impact to Ayanon. Ayanon kept her will as her best. Surely the same condition goes to Aragaki. Even the banter goes wild af to her, she kept steady and not easily took the bait. Great! Finally the final shit was there! WS final elimination round in the level of prefecture area. The hardworking girl against the beast with great talent girl. The crowd gone crazy. The match began. Damn! I can't believe Aragaki could steal two points. Nice strategy. Using such a mental approaching like there really brilliant way to be used to the girl like her. Ayano became so depressed. Two shit outta of Ayanon base's really served her better, since the mad of her gonna burst out loud. Now, the real fight soon will become more fearless. Its harsh! Meanwhile, Erena trying to figure out how the best way to harsh that shit mom. Damn, the cliffhanger! Nice narration out there, my pink haired girl. You will become the best commentator if you retire in the future. Great! |
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| Ayano vs Nagisa hmmm well that's definitely interesting, but it's really disturbing how Ayano seems to be destroyed by what did her mother |
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| the final match has begun aragaki vs ayano and the mom ran away once again |
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| Pretty intense match. Great start for Nagisa. I hope she wins. |
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| Still no hint to why Ayano's mom left her, at some point I started wondering if we'll even get to know the reason in this season. Definitely rooting for Nagisa in that match though. |
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