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Sep 14, 2018 10:20 AM
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Satou looks so happy with Shio :3

However, it looks like their relationship may be breaking apart. What a shattering moment for Satou. Damn! It's like her world just broke down in her mind. Her reactions of fear was exactly what I had expected too.

Crazy shit.
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It's a rave and deceitful love. It's not always sweet.

Shit love--.
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Omg another grueling, emotionally draining episode.

“Instead of loving in order to live,
What if we could live and die
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Sep 14, 2018 11:38 AM
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Satou: "I killed someone."

Shio: *Nods* "Okay."


LOLWUT
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Sep 14, 2018 11:45 AM
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"I hate you Satou!"
*5 seconds later*
"I want to protect you Satou!"

*Clap clap* Bravo writers. You are so talented at what you do...\
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Satou: "I killed someone."

Shio: *Nods* "Okay."


LOLWUT


yep


I hope the brother bashes Satou's head in, but I bet he will get the business from a 90 lb girl in the end. Lulz
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Sep 14, 2018 1:14 PM
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So Shio finally remember what happened with her mother and threw a tantrum because Satou is treating her the same way as her mom did. Part of me wanted Shio to run away and see Satou goes full psycho, but I am also glad they are now partner is crimes.

Wonder will Shio actually commit a crime like killing her own brother later on.
Sep 14, 2018 1:27 PM
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The adaptation is so good tho. Unfortunately it won't have an ending 'cause 12 episodes aren't enough but oh well.
The transitions were very well made.
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UImoetard said:

Wonder will Shio actually commit a crime like killing her own brother later on.


Shio isn't capable of that, not physically and not mentally.
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Austro said:
Satou: "I killed someone."

Shio: *Nods* "Okay."


LOLWUT

It's been made pretty clear that Shio is pretty unaware of how bad stuff like abuse or murder is. Hell, she's hardly ever even been allowed outside. She's basically completely brainwashed by Satou, unfortunately.
Sep 14, 2018 2:32 PM

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They just cut out one of the biggest misfortune/tragic backstories of all time (not really) to save one miserable episode.

I don't really wanted to watch/read it all again, but it does add a lot to understand "how broke" the mother was.
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So, Shio never really had any sort of amnesia about her mother and her family, as there was clearly no reason for it... It’s more akin to repressed memories after a traumatic experience. And, because of all of the abuse and adandonment both she and Satou have been mutually surrounded by, in a sadistic, sick and twisted fashion, they’re actually kind of perfect for each other. Or so the show seems to be trying to put across. Never mind the grotesqueness of their differences in age, and all of that.

Man, this show is like being chained underneath a car, having the flesh scraped off of your skull, as it rips down the asphalt. 😕
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So technically Satou didn't kidnap Shio back when she found her since she was an abandoned child. And Shio is now proven to be still so young and broken that she still doesn't understand how bad murder is and just shrugs it off nonchalantly when Satou said she killed someone. Gotta say I really love how this episode focused on their relationship and how they really need each other to not break apart.

My only major gripe with this episode was Shio went "I hate you" to comforting Satou in just a couple of seconds. Kids don't usually get over their tantrums like that and even if they it should've been transitioned better.
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They just cut out one of the biggest misfortune/tragic backstories of all time (not really) to save one miserable episode.

I don't really wanted to watch/read it all again, but it does add a lot to understand "how broke" the mother was.


I read what happened to the mother and that whole scenario was all messed up.
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terminador_2397 said:
shiro_kai said:
They just cut out one of the biggest misfortune/tragic backstories of all time (not really) to save one miserable episode.

I don't really wanted to watch/read it all again, but it does add a lot to understand "how broke" the mother was.


I read what happened to the mother and that whole scenario was all messed up.


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I read what happened to the mother and that whole scenario was all messed up.




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This episode was genuinely good and explored the relationship,past and personalities of Satou and Chio well.

Post ending scene was also interesting.

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SoraSenpai said:
"I hate you Satou!"
*5 seconds later*
"I want to protect you Satou!"

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Austro said:
Satou: "I killed someone."

Shio: *Nods* "Okay."


LOLWUT


yep


I hope the brother bashes Satou's head in, but I bet he will get the business from a 90 lb girl in the end. Lulz


You know that she is a little girl, right? She was just throwing as tantrum, but she loves Satou and she knows Satou loves her too.

You are being a...*read my own signature* oh yeah...you are being a moron.
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shiro_kai said:
They just cut out one of the biggest misfortune/tragic backstories of all time (not really) to save one miserable episode.

I don't really wanted to watch/read it all again, but it does add a lot to understand "how broke" the mother was.

Which chapter of the manga it was?
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shiro_kai said:






The fucked up japanese society is actualy something like that =/
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KaeUBW said:
shiro_kai said:
They just cut out one of the biggest misfortune/tragic backstories of all time (not really) to save one miserable episode.

I don't really wanted to watch/read it all again, but it does add a lot to understand "how broke" the mother was.

Which chapter of the manga it was?


Chapter 28 to 31, episode covered few pages of chapter 31.
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Shio's mother had a difficult life, at least those fragments gave a lot of information about the situation of Shio's family before she meet Satou.
Shio was right that people are like jars, her mom broke and sent everything to the hell, at the end Shio was abandoned like a dog and Satou rescued her, I did not see the supposed "kidnapping" they talked so much about, I felt scammed because everyone said that Shio was kidnapped and everything was a lie.
Satou gets up after her long break and decides the next step to follow her Happy Sugar Life, but Shio gets angry because Satou hides things from her and she wants Shio to be just a doll, Shio locked in a room and tells Satou that she hates her. Satou listens to that word and her world collapses, here I must admit that it was one of the best moments of this anime, seeing her desperate was incredible, always cold and today she lost control of her emotions because the person she loves most told her that hates her, how beautiful.
In the end Shio tells Satou to share the burden, to support each other and work together to be happy, those words filled Satou with happiness since Shio loves her for what she has done for her (remember that Shio only knows about the good things she has done, the homicide, extortion and other crimes she doesn´t know)
Despite being a little girl, Shio accepts all the crimes that Satou committed in the name of protecting her (Shio is a little girl and her mom and dad didn´t teach her how differentiate good from evil)
the next episode will be intense, Asahi is already in motion thanks to Shouko, while Satou and Shio prepare to flee their castle.
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I really hope the parts that were cut out get animated....
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you know? i think i've found some fact about satou mental disorder... but unfortunately i forged to take a note for it.. damn...!!!

i cant found it anywhere but, i'll try to find it once more..
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Sep 14, 2018 9:36 PM
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Poor Shio :( Well sadly stuff like this is actually happening IRL more often than I could imagine...
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shiro_kai said:
KaeUBW said:

Which chapter of the manga it was?


Chapter 28 to 31, episode covered few pages of chapter 31.

Thanks, i'm going to check it later.
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Sep 14, 2018 10:34 PM

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I have some conflicted feelings about Shio and Satou, since Shio's mother is unfit, Asahi won't go to social services, and Shio is at least happy with Satou. Of course, since Shio's mom seemed to be keeping her clean and fed untill she ran out of money at least, living with Satou isn't exactly an improvement since she is still keeping Shio penned up like a pet.
The kid needs to be going to school, no ifs ands, or buts. Satou is just as unfit as her mother. What's Shio going to do with no education as she grows up to adulthood in virtual isolation with no socialization/normal development in Satou's household?

Something this anime has been making me think about has been the plight of single mothers and their children, which seems to be a very serious issue in Japan. They need some social reform, but I get the impression that over there glorious dai nippon can never be criticized.

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well they reconcided and then the brother will make everything complicated again...I hope they stay together...
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Perhaps unsurprisingly, Shio's family situation was even more bleak than it first appeared, which certainly goes some way to explaining how Shio has largely been OK with the situation until now. Of course, after remembering all that, her outlook would change and her desire for more agency in her relationship with Satou is an important and inevitable outcome. I don't agree with Shio seeming entirely OK with Satou just murdering someone (I doubt she truly understands the implications of such an act at her age anyway), but the only rational explanation for that is she was just happy that Satou wasn't hiding things from her anymore.

Either way, this situation is going to come crumbling done one way or another, as Asahi has the photograph of Satou and Shio and was close to Shoko, so he'll quickly figure out what's going on and either go to the police or take matter into his own hands. Of course, if Satou and Shio do leave - as they realistically have to do at this point - the fact of the matter is that someone will surely notice Shio and realise that she's the child on all the missing person posters Asahi's been distributing around the town.

Hopefully next episode does a decent job of addressing these realities of the situation: based on the approach taken this week, that is certainly looking very likely in one way or another.
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Shio's mom abandoned her. Also, Shio's reaction to "I killed someone" is funny lol.
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I'm really hoping the producers will give us a definitive end to the story. I think HSL will end up being a circular story. I would love to see the girls run off together and live happily ever after, but I don't think that's in the cards.

As for Shio's Mother, even with the Manga background story, I think she's a witch and I hope she eats her own liver out raw. I have no sympathy for someone who abuses their own young. Even a badger wouldn't do that.

It's easy for me to cut Satou a lot of slack. She's had a pretty crappy life and was spiritually dead until Shio came along. Though Satou's murder of Shouka is morally repugnant, it is understandable.
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Funny when Satou-chan is becoming delirious after being hated by Shio. "not enough sweetness" XD

Although scary that her reason for existing is now only because of Shio-chan.... she will definitely kill anyone who try to take Shio from her.
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I'm more curious about what she did with Shouko's body. Is she hiding it somewhere in the apartment?





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I'm more curious about what she did with Shouko's body. Is she hiding it somewhere in the apartment?
I think it's in the room with the garbage bags. I'm pretty sure it was established earlier that room is locked and Shio can't get in there.
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I'm more curious about what she did with Shouko's body. Is she hiding it somewhere in the apartment?


I just hope she does not chop it up like what she did with the painter.

Also a bit disturbing when Satou was laying down on the floor... it's shown Shouko is staring at Satou from the doorway.
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I'm more curious about what she did with Shouko's body. Is she hiding it somewhere in the apartment?


I just hope she does not chop it up like what she did with the painter.

Also a bit disturbing when Satou was laying down on the floor... it's shown Shouko is staring at Satou from the doorway.


It doesn't matter what she does with the body, Shouko is dead.

And now Shio's brother needs to bash Satou's head in with his baseball bat.
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"I hate you Satou!"
*5 seconds later*
"I want to protect you Satou!"

*Clap clap* Bravo writers. You are so talented at what you do...\


yep


I hope the brother bashes Satou's head in, but I bet he will get the business from a 90 lb girl in the end. Lulz


You know that she is a little girl, right? She was just throwing as tantrum, but she loves Satou and she knows Satou loves her too.

You are being a...*read my own signature* oh yeah...you are being a moron.


And she knows Satou is a murderer and still loves her as well. This little girl should be terrified but no...she's not.
She should in fact be even more scarred with the thoughts of her mother going through her head as well.

This anime is laughable at this point.

Also is your signature spewing facts? Hold on let me read it.

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This anime is laughable at this point.
What is the world is wrong with you? You whine how bad Satou is, and yet you display no maturity or empathy either. Tell us your backstory, I’m sure it’s a tearjerker.
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It doesn't matter what she does with the body, Shouko is dead.
So abusing corpses is AOK with you? I pray you don’t work in a morgue.
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I think it won't end as good as expected due to anime having just 12 episodes... should i pick up the manga?
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Not gonna say what but they left out a huge portion of why Shio's mom was like that. I'm not justifying her mom's behavior, nothing can ever excuse what she did, she abandoned her own child. However, her mother was also a victim in more ways than one. Anime-only watchers saw a glimpse of her mother's past, I'm not sure if they're going to reveal how she ended up with a guy like that as her husband. It was explained in the manga and all I can say is I felt so sorry for her mom.

I was surprised by Shio-chan's outburst when she pushed Satou away, I almost forgot about that part of the manga. I've only read up to Chapter 37 since that's how far they've translated it but the manga itself is still ongoing and there's no real ending so I'm wondering how they plan to end everything in two episodes. I'm sure it will be an Anime-only ending kind of like how Gantz ended in the second season.

HOLY MOTHER ASDLFKKLASLDK Asahi whispering or rather a faint memory of him whispering in Shio-chan's ear while she was out on the balcony fucking scared me. Was NOT expecting that. Also, that image of him dragging that baseball bat on the pavement was oddly exciting and satisfying. I hope to see a bloodbath.

Since Shio has repressed her memories due to trauma, it's no wonder she can't remember Asahi yet.
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SoraSenpai said:

This anime is laughable at this point.
What is the world is wrong with you? You whine how bad Satou is, and yet you display no maturity or empathy either. Tell us your backstory, I’m sure it’s a tearjerker.


There's nothing wrong with me. This story is just silly at this point. These characters are so far past the realistic factor that showing some sort of support towards any one of them is silly. The only one who you could feel for is Shouko and now she's dead.

She's been KIDNAPPED by someone for 3 months and thats love?

I guess if anything Shios the most to feel bad for because she lacks common sense...for the most part.
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SoraSenpai said:
"I hate you Satou!"
*5 seconds later*
"I want to protect you Satou!"

Kids could be very emotional and easily manipulated at times. Like every time you talk to them.
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Shio doesnt know anything but she talk like a philosopher, it's so annoying

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You know that she is a little girl, right? She was just throwing as tantrum, but she loves Satou and she knows Satou loves her too.

You are being a...*read my own signature* oh yeah...you are being a moron.


And she knows Satou is a murderer and still loves her as well. This little girl should be terrified but no...she's not.
She should in fact be even more scarred with the thoughts of her mother going through her head as well.

This anime is laughable at this point.

Also is your signature spewing facts? Hold on let me read it.

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Yep purely opinionated but feel free to keep judging.


Are you saying that she should've stopped loving Satou the moment she said she killed someone? She is just a little girl who have been living basically only indoor for life so her understanding of things are really childish. Even so, why do you think she should have stopped liking Satou? Satou cares for her a lot and Shiou knows that. Why would she be terrified? It doesn't even make sense.

Have you never seen a parent defending their son/daughter after they committed a crime? This is so fucking common in real life. Hell, even couples not even married yet act like that too. Your love for someone doesn't SUDDENLY disappears just because they did something bad to someone you don't even know. An adult can understand things and judge if he should support the "criminal", but a KID? Her life right now is just that room with Satou and nothing more so even if the entire outside world crumbled it wouldn't make much difference to her.

C'mon dude...the only joke here is your understanding of the characters and even people in general.

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There's nothing wrong with me. This story is just silly at this point. These characters are so far past the realistic factor that showing some sort of support towards any one of them is silly. The only one who you could feel for is Shouko and now she's dead.

She's been KIDNAPPED by someone for 3 months and thats love?

I guess if anything Shios the most to feel bad for because she lacks common sense...for the most part.


Are you even watching this anime dude? She was not kidnapped, instead she was abandoned by her mother and Satou FOUND her and has been taking good care of her since them. Her with her family was not good at all before so it's very clear that her life now is much better and happier.

Satou has been doing everything for her so WHY should Shiou not like her? Just try to explain this dude...i doubt you can.

And yes my signature is perfect for you. You come here to post shit without the bare minimum understating of anything the anime is portraying. This is a fucking joke, c'mon.
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This shit makes me want to slap someone. That kid was acting like a baby for 9 episodes then all of sudden is acting and thinking like an mature adolescent, capable of understand relationships and other's feelings.
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That was a very nice episode that explored the past of Shio and the events with her mother.

They went into detail and everything seems interesting.

This anime has surprisingly been really solid these past few weeks. I hope they can end as good as the current really good streak of episodes.
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SoraSenpai said:


And she knows Satou is a murderer and still loves her as well. This little girl should be terrified but no...she's not.
She should in fact be even more scarred with the thoughts of her mother going through her head as well.

This anime is laughable at this point.

Also is your signature spewing facts? Hold on let me read it.

...

Yep purely opinionated but feel free to keep judging.


Are you saying that she should've stopped loving Satou the moment she said she killed someone? She is just a little girl who have been living basically only indoor for life so her understanding of things are really childish. Even so, why do you think she should have stopped liking Satou? Satou cares for her a lot and Shiou knows that. Why would she be terrified? It doesn't even make sense.

Have you never seen a parent defending their son/daughter after they committed a crime? This is so fucking common in real life. Hell, even couples not even married yet act like that too. Your love for someone doesn't SUDDENLY disappears just because they did something bad to someone you don't even know. An adult can understand things and judge if he should support the "criminal", but a KID? Her life right now is just that room with Satou and nothing more so even if the entire outside world crumbled it wouldn't make much difference to her.

C'mon dude...the only joke here is your understanding of the characters and even people in general.

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There's nothing wrong with me. This story is just silly at this point. These characters are so far past the realistic factor that showing some sort of support towards any one of them is silly. The only one who you could feel for is Shouko and now she's dead.

She's been KIDNAPPED by someone for 3 months and thats love?

I guess if anything Shios the most to feel bad for because she lacks common sense...for the most part.


Are you even watching this anime dude? She was not kidnapped, instead she was abandoned by her mother and Satou FOUND her and has been taking good care of her since them. Her with her family was not good at all before so it's very clear that her life now is much better and happier.

Satou has been doing everything for her so WHY should Shiou not like her? Just try to explain this dude...i doubt you can.

And yes my signature is perfect for you. You come here to post shit without the bare minimum understating of anything the anime is portraying. This is a fucking joke, c'mon.
You can hate this anime all you want, it's fine, but if you can't understand what is happening then don't blame the anime blame yourself and stop posting shit.


I mean if you can tell me why She's being held locked in a room and that not being "Kidnapped" then maybe I will bow down and respect your opinions on this anime and towards myself.

Idk about you though but if one of my family members was a murder, yeah I would still love them but who's to say I wouldn't be next. I wouldn't want to be around that person until they received some help.

The only thing upgraded in Shios life is her living arrangements. She's not allowed outside with Satou and her mother didnt want her outside as well.
Ill agree she's happier with Satou then her mother so I guess when she's the only person in your life then why leave. As a child where can she go?
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This shit makes me want to slap someone. That kid was acting like a baby for 9 episodes then all of sudden is acting and thinking like an mature adolescent, capable of understand relationships and other's feelings.
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They just cut out one of the biggest misfortune/tragic backstories of all time (not really) to save one miserable episode.

I don't really wanted to watch/read it all again, but it does add a lot to understand "how broke" the mother was.


Can you tell me about this unadapted part in spoiler tags?


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They just cut out one of the biggest misfortune/tragic backstories of all time (not really) to save one miserable episode.

I don't really wanted to watch/read it all again, but it does add a lot to understand "how broke" the mother was.


Can you tell me about this unadapted part in spoiler tags?


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