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Sep 6, 2017 5:16 AM

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SmallDanger said:
nanikorewa said:

IMO, yukari and ririna is true love where as yukari and misaki is more of an infatuation. Yukari and misaki didnt interact MUCH until a day b4 yukari received his notice. Whereas yukari and ririna, they interacted almost everyday thru text msg, phone calls and hanging out with each other be it at their respective homes or outside for a meetup just like a normal couple would do. The time they spent with each other is definitely much more than yukari with misaki. So true love = looking someone and love them from a far instead of spending time together knowing more about each other (ririna love yukari for his personality and also invested some of her time to learn about yukari's hobby on kofun and yukari love ririna for her personality thru their interactions) ? If that's ur definition of true love (yukari x misaki, 0 interactions but they juz love each other lmao, if this isnt infatuation then what is it?), so be it.


YOU SAID WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO SAY!!


SO MUCH THIS!
Ririna real love
Misaki teen infatuation
Sep 6, 2017 6:13 AM
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The revelation from Shuu sure shook things up though. It seems that Misaki is not as
easy to figure out as we thought though. So Misaki has someone that she wants to protect
if she has to break through her lies to do so. Still its nice to see that Misaki isn't
alone with this as Shuu is willing to aid her. Things between Yukari and Riri sure are getting interesting. Still its funny how they were so caught up in the moment that they forgot about their argument though. Riri getting flustered of being asked who Yukari was hillarious though. Riri's reaction to finding out that the pretty boy was actually Nisaka though was a bit over the top. Its nice that Nisaka's family came to see the play though. Nisaka's father sure is kind to invite them to a wedding though. Well at least Yukari managed to get Shuu's number. But question is how would he start though with his questions. Yukari's expression on seeing Shuu's reply though lol. Its nice that as a result of meeting Yukari and Misaki Riri's attitude seems to have changed a lot becoming more positive and cheerful than how she was before. So thats what Yukari does when he's in moping mode.

I guess because Yukari insisted on staying in the background
not many people would remember him at all. So Shuu's reaction i guess is pretty normal. Hmm so Shuu's family was the one that invented the notices. Its funny that for such a serious talk they decided to do it at a cat cafe though. Guess Shuu really doesn't like Yukari at all. Riri really is in a odd place though since she's supposed to be the assigned wife and shouldn't be supporting Misaki in the first place. Those were some hard questions for Riri that Shuu is asking though. Hmm so beneath Misaki's positive attitude she was actually wearing a mask. So thats how Shuu and Yukari become friends and how she found out that she was in love with Yukari. So after meeting Shuu Misaki began to act more normally instead of using the mask then. Its nice that we get to see how Misaki and Shuu met. Its also funny seeing how nervous Misaki got when Yukari is mentioned though. Even from this point its easy to see that Misaki is very much in love with Yukari and that the feelings would remain even if she was not his assigned wife. The talk with Shuu though was interesting though and made clear just how close she is with Misaki. But the question is what Yukari plans to do now as either path would hurt one of the girls.



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Sep 6, 2017 7:54 AM
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Oh totally forgot this show is 12 episodes long. With 2 episodes left I guess they may go for an original end where both girls aren't hurt. Wish it was 24 eps because the show is so interesting and i want more Ririna.

The guy with white hair seems like what Shuu said was true and he was trying to keep her silent.

Sep 6, 2017 9:42 AM

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My constant mood of this show is just feeling sorry for Misaki lmao. Nice episode, Igarashi seems like a very good friend to Misaki. Ririna and Yukari are getting closer together but that's bound to complicate things even further.
Sep 6, 2017 12:42 PM

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I don't know why, but I don't feel anything for Misaki. On the other side, Yukari and Ririna look so good together, their chemistry is great.
Sep 6, 2017 7:44 PM

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--Shuui is so MOE--

By the time seeing her hidden traits while she's with Misaki, who tries to be show-off in front of the model student way back middle school. Not once we can sense such more than affection when Misaki tries to root Yukari who will be his own destined partner. Then a matter of bland conflict felt a little connection between those two. These matchmaking attempt can either be ruined or be biasedly mixed up along the terms of relationship.

Now I know since right of the first ep.

5/5
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Sep 6, 2017 9:13 PM

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Whoahoho said:
So according to Igarashi she was trying to protect Misaki, but it kinda looks like she's just making things more complicated with Nejima and Ririna, so now I'm at a lost as to what is official the Notice itself or the text message


I think Shuu's logic is that she is trying to force Neji to make a decision. She wants Misaki to be happy which I think she sees 2 possibilities for:

1) Neji chooses Misaki
2) Neji chooses Ririna ASAP so that Misaki can move on with her life and find someone else who can make her happy.

From my view, Shuu hates that Neji still hasn't made a decision and that the longer he keeps putting off his choice, the longer Misaki is getting hurt
Sep 7, 2017 3:59 PM

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To be honest, I like Shuu so far. Wouldn't mind to see more of her.


Sep 7, 2017 6:07 PM

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Okay so I literally was like the biggest fan of the shipping with Misaki when the series first started, but literally am totally falling in love with Ririna and this natural love that is forming between her and Yukari! I am so excited!!

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Sep 8, 2017 1:05 AM

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This episode hurt my heart... teamMisaki T^T
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Sep 8, 2017 2:55 PM

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It's basically red string of "Science" vrs red string of "fate" i figured she was the one that sent a fake notice at the start but i dont feel like it was the right thing.

At this point its hard to tell which is a "lie" and which is "true" love, cuz even if the notice system pushed them together they end up being happy, its just a matter of perspective and moral/ethic debate

Id say since the system paired Neji and Lilina, and Misaki is getting some help on the background they should be near "equal ground" its just a matter of making out his damned decision freaking lame MC
Sep 8, 2017 3:50 PM

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koto said:
Zelev said:
Um, did anyone see the clip at the end? Who was that girl? "Hi, I'm Aoi Morikawa. I'll be playing Aoi Nisaka in the movie adaptation of 'Love and Lies'". I've never seen those two names in this show?

There's going to be a live action film that will be released next month focusing on a girl name Nisaka Aoi who is the niece to Nisaka Yuusuke. The film takes place after the events of the manga/anime and there was an epilogue chapter 10 years later that focused on her.


I understand you correctly, does this mean that the anime and manga will end simultaneously before October?
Sep 9, 2017 2:11 AM

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Nothing really happened in this episode.
Igarashi wants to protect Misaki by not letting her get together with Nejima!?
and some intervention by Yajima...
Looks like #TeamMisaki is still hanging on a thread for now....
4/5.


Sep 9, 2017 5:57 PM

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Shuu is kinda annoying lol. So what, is she captivated by Misaki and lesbo for her? Smh. "I'm her only protector." Okaayyyy..... .__.

Also, Neji is so meek. When's the last time I've seen such a weak, pathetic character who can't even hand out flyers to the public? =_____=
Just watching him accept being roasted by Shuu and not having any comebacks, I have to agree-- why DOES Misaki like this fool? I can't.

Too many annoyances lately, ha... :3
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Sep 9, 2017 8:46 PM

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Good episode, looks like it will end up saying the system knows best.
Sep 10, 2017 3:31 AM
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There are only two choices:

1. Pick Misaki.
2. Be sent to the gulag.
Sep 11, 2017 6:37 AM
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I wonder what kind of ending the anime is going to have Since the manga has not finished ,it would either have to TBC or anime original
Sep 11, 2017 3:00 PM

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This show has become such a pain in the ass.
"At some point, I stopped hoping."
Sep 12, 2017 12:20 PM

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This shit is hopeless.
Sep 16, 2017 4:53 PM

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So basically Shuu wants Misaki + Yukari to break the system.
Sep 24, 2017 10:20 AM

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I can't help but love Ririna!
Sep 27, 2017 8:04 PM

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I really hope Ririna wins...
Oct 9, 2017 10:30 AM

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Neji dont deserve Misaki at all. Ririna is cute but sorry not sorry shes kinda makes me cringe with the "i ship u with misaki" and "why am i feeling this way for neji" ugh
“They stood together in a false intimacy, a nervous contact. And he was in love with her.”
― D.H. Lawrence, Women in Love

Oct 11, 2017 11:05 AM

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Nisaka dad inviting them to a wedding, shuu the granddaughter for the one who made the system and she's taking it on herself to protect misaki.
Yajima stopping her before she goes out of hand,
Oct 23, 2017 7:08 AM

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for God sake, just end it already, Yukari should have cancelled the marriage and choose Misaki, break the system, that's what Shuu wanted all along.

this episode really hurt my heart. If I'm in Yukari position, this problem would already solved less than a month, since my feelings for Misaki are crystal clear.

somehow I hope this doesn't turn out to be Nisekoi 2.0, I hate that.
Jan 7, 2018 12:06 AM

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I'm liking Yukari x Ririna more with each episode!
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Mar 1, 2018 1:19 AM

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Was it a fake email or was it actually correct? I don't know what I'm supposed to believe.
Mar 18, 2020 6:19 AM

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Well, this white haired girl just said A, but didn't say B.. You know, if you wanted to say, you needed to say it, right?.. Or was your goal all along to just put the worries into Yukari's head?.. If not, you can't leave man hanging like that.. What you did now - is exactly that..
And well.. I'm glad that Yukari and Ririna didn't actually start to fight over this white haired girl's said words.. But rather allied to find the truth.. Nice to see.. ;p
They're planning to visit marriage?.. Interesting.. ;p
Cats' cafe?.. But I'm allergic to pets, including cats.. Oh well, not like I'm going.. ;p
Well, I still don't really understand, why Shuu really approached Yukari anyway?.. With also being all not saying things to the end about what she actually wants to tell?..
And in the end to Ririna's question, who he'll choose.. Yukari just says: "I don't know.." Make up your mind and take responsibility, man! No responsibility taking found now, unfortunately..
Jun 29, 2020 11:34 PM

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dragging myself to the end of this anime

ririna my saving grace and that bomb OP that i've never skipped once







but i’ll probably remember over and over again
you were there and everyone else was there
— the day we all searched for just one thing

Jul 18, 2020 9:13 PM

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So Ririna was told everything about Yukari's feelings toward Misaki and was actively trying to push the two together, but is now surprised to know that Yukari might have gotten Misaki as his assigned partner first? Did Yukari never mention his glitched phone? Also, did Shuu just show up to talk in vagaries and walk away? Lastly, wouldn't hacking the matchmaking system be a serious offense if it's critical to promoting Japan's population growth? Not sure why that wasn't investigated sooner if they were aware of a glitch happening.

EDIT: Also, I think the Amazon subs are off.

"There's no way a partner the government assigned for you could be the same as someone you fell in love with naturally!"

That implies there's a recognized natural love that exists independent of government-assigned love, undermining all the drama around the matchmaking system in an instant. I hope the subs were wrong here, because otherwise the scene, in a self-aware manner, just solved the show's overarching conflict in a single conversation.
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Feb 9, 2021 11:58 AM

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Yet another episode showing why the notice system is bs lol
Dec 5, 2021 12:35 AM

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A bit of small talk with Igarashi well we don't know what her motive is then just protecting Misaki

Well to be honest Ririna looks cheerful recently after they had their notice, I still find the notices dumb like it's so unreasonable in so many ways but it still works

Choose your Ririna, Serious face Ririna, or Jaw dropping Ririna when I saw her face like that I was laughing so hard like where's the comedy tag and a runner up flustered Ririna face.
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