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Jul 8, 2017 11:19 AM

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JudgeRuthless said:
pardored said:


Well, you might consider child abuse and kidnapping, I guess.


Under whose legislation? I am baffled. How can you even for a second think that the germa will indict themselves.

HalibelTheEspada said:
I dunno if I'd go that far... according to Sanji, Reiju, and their reputation... they've murdered many people possibly in the hundreds. Clones or not, they sacrificed their followers on multiple occasions on-screen.


So what if they've murdered hundreds of people? Why not look up in the real world history of Earth what the top ten blood thirsty rulers were and think about it a bit. None of them is considered a criminal.


attrocities and crimes aren't considered the same thing in the modern world of today


how do you go from one piece to this? stop shitposting pls.
Jul 8, 2017 11:41 AM

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JudgeRuthless said:
Only losers are accused of war crimes. See the US succesfully doing wars for the past two decades without having to deal with any of the nonsense you talk about.
That makes no sense... Saddam Hussein was tried and convicted by his own people.

What kind of tin-foil hat theory is this? The past two decades have given the U.S. the "nonsense" I just talked about. I also said if things came to light then it would ruin any president. Things such as George W. Bush's campaign war against Iraq... most people realize it's mostly bullshit, but with something as impactful as 9/11 to rile the people up, it's not hard to motivate them to go to war. Yes many people are hailed as heroes due to lies, but that doesn't mean they're somehow not criminals.

Whether something can be proven doesn't determine whether someone is a criminal. A murderer is still a murderer whether official records say so or not. Someone who get away with robbing a bank is still a criminal, they're just a criminal who got away with it. A criminal is someone who does something illegal... not someone who gets caught. Mass-murder, treason, reckless endangerment... these are all crimes. Yes, lots of people get away with it, but even more do not... so basically all you're saying is that "Some people get away with crime... so crime does not exist."

It is not just people who lose wars that are convicted... it's just those who get caught. And again whether they are convicted or not does not determine whether they're a criminal. Unless they're living in a country where mass-murder is considered acceptable, then that is a crime.

And back on topic, this is a One Piece discussion, whereas your main point here was that Sanji should not hate them because of their crimes... because they have committed none (aside from mass-murder, kidnapping, blackmail, building illegal weapons of destruction, child abuse/neglect, slavery, etc.). Well I'll just repeat my point until you give a counter-argument... they have been designated as criminals for years... everyone recognizes them as a criminal organization... they have never hidden their actions as far as I've seen, and even despite that Sanji knows the exact sorts of things they've done... Reiju herself admitted that she's done equally evil things.

And Even going by your logic... they already lost. They were defeated by one of the top 4 most infamous criminals in the world, and now their only allies are yet another infamous group of criminals. They have been associating with pirates since they're introduction. So in what way are they not criminals? They're called criminals by every single character and person, except for you... so how are they not criminals again?
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Jul 13, 2017 2:58 AM

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itsnowtime283 said:
JudgeRuthless said:


Under whose legislation? I am baffled. How can you even for a second think that the germa will indict themselves.



So what if they've murdered hundreds of people? Why not look up in the real world history of Earth what the top ten blood thirsty rulers were and think about it a bit. None of them is considered a criminal.


attrocities and crimes aren't considered the same thing in the modern world of today


how do you go from one piece to this? stop shitposting pls.


you not being able to follow a discussion doesn't imply shitposting

it's funny how ironical your troll post is though
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Jul 24, 2017 2:04 PM

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I guess it would have been expected for Luffy and Sanji to jump. Sanji wouldn't let a woman let alone his sister just get killed and Luffy always likes to jump into action like that.

But considering their chances i wonder how they will escape now because there is no way they can defeat Big Mom and her grew with them and the Germa.
May 18, 2018 5:55 AM

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I loved Sanji's speech, he sure told that bastard what he thought of him.
The fight begins!
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Now I understand why he saved his family.




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Germa 66 will fight next to the Mugiwaras!!!!
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