| It's interesting how Seiren and Amagami are in the same universe and even share characters. I wanted to know how far apart they were in terms of time. First, we have to figure out when Amagami takes place. It's never explicitly stated in the show(s), and I haven't played the game (if the time is stated in the game, please tell me), but we can pinpoint a specific timeframe based on the technologies shown. Amagami's Timeframe ----------------------------------- So now that we know when Amagami takes place, let's connect it to Seiren with the information that we currently know. We know that Shouichi's friend Ikuo is Ai Nanasaki's younger brother. But how much older is Ai than Ikuo? Well... Ai wanted to give Ikuo an Inago Mask belt as a present in Amagami. This means that at that time, Ikuo must have been young enough to want something like that, as well as arrogant enough to decline it because it was an outdated model. His profile says that he was quite a prankster back then, so it makes sense. Ikuo is a second year in Seiren. Assuming that he was maybe 5-7 in Amagami, it's safe to assume that Seiren takes place 10-12 years after Amagami, meaning around 2008-2014. *gasp* Perhaps we will see cell phones this time?! Some more "evidence": This does make me wonder that if Junichi were to return in Seiren as a minor character, who would he be with? It'd be cool to see Amagami characters as adults too. As of now, I've yet to find evidence concerning Makoto and Risa's connection as sisters... -------------------- I spent way too long on something this mundane... Here, I'll be updating this post with important information uncovered as the episodes go on, from me as well as other people. This includes other evidence and insight. Posts 5, 10, 11, and 12 Posts 24, and 31 Post 32 |
EpicCh33seJan 30, 2017 5:32 PM
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| You really like Amagami. Those are very interesting results though. |
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| Wow, you clearly did a lot of fricking research, this is Hyouka-level detective work... Good job :D |
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| Good job! EpicCh33se said: I actually thought about this and hoped that, depending on Seiren's arc, Junichi will be with one who's compatible to the current girl's arc. (Not necessarily in every one of them, but as background characters, like, you see them choosing stuff from a store or going out from a hospital for pregnancy matters, random stuff like that)This does make me wonder that if Junichi were to return in Seiren as a minor character, who would he be with? It'd be cool to see Amagami characters as adults too. |
| The in-game calendar of Amagami matches the year 1994. Takayama said the anime will be taking 9 years after the game, so the anime will be taking place in 2003. |
| This has nothing to do with Seiren but... I've been browsing some Amagami spoilers... |
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Swagernator said: Read the 1st paragraph: http://aminoapps.com/page/anime/8924626-omnibus-formatThis has nothing to do with Seiren but... I've been browsing some Amagami spoilers... |
Raccoon_Citizen said: Swagernator said: Read the 1st paragraph: http://aminoapps.com/page/anime/8924626-omnibus-formatThis has nothing to do with Seiren but... I've been browsing some Amagami spoilers... lol never heard about "Omnibus Format" before. Thanks btw. |
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| Well, Seiren follows the same format. Go and watch Amagami SS if you didn't start this yet. |
Soth said: The in-game calendar of Amagami matches the year 1994. Takayama said the anime will be taking 9 years after the game, so the anime will be taking place in 2003. That would match the rotary phone bit better. But Junichi's camcorder stands as somewhat of a stark contrast to 1994/5, especially with how it went from 4:3 to 16:9. It might have just been a weird shift in artistic design, but still. Also, the Kamita household has a flat screen. Seiren Episode 1: I highly doubt a flat screen of that caliber would be in the average home in 2003. In fact, Shouichi has one in his room too. Which means that this has to be a time in which flat screens are affordable. There also appears to be a mounted screen in the classroom. |
EpicCh33seJan 5, 2017 5:27 PM
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| "it kind of restricts it to being after 2004, realistically." I just wanted to throw in here, I was "surfing the net" as a hobby since like 1997. Not sure how old you are, but the internet was very usable back then lol. As for the flat screen, every few houses would have a family that spent a good grand or two on a plasma that would look like that - similar to people that bought 4k TVs 2-3 years ago. |
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Kougeru said: "it kind of restricts it to being after 2004, realistically." I just wanted to throw in here, I was "surfing the net" as a hobby since like 1997. Not sure how old you are, but the internet was very usable back then lol. As for the flat screen, every few houses would have a family that spent a good grand or two on a plasma that would look like that - similar to people that bought 4k TVs 2-3 years ago. Touche on the internet point there. As for the TV, I don't think they'd spend another grand on a screen for their son's room. Not entirely sure what those machines in the back are... Could they be ATMs? There doesn't seem to be a keypad or any buttons. Could it be touchscreen? I think instead of 2008-2014, I'll change that to 2006-2010. |
EpicCh33seJan 5, 2017 5:43 PM
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| You're probably right, I was just saying it's very possible still. Either way, great job getting a decent time frame. I had no idea they were actually connected - only that it was from the same people. Very interesting stuff. Hopefully some info in Seiren will make it even easier to figure out more solidly. |
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Kougeru said: I had no idea they were actually connected - only that it was from the same people. MJunior said: I really didn't expect those animes to be connected in any way other than a subtle easter egg here or there Yeah. I'm sure it's a bit more obvious now, but the schools are the same. Uniforms hadn't changed, and even the Miss Santa Contest is still kicking it. |
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| Respect... You Like very much Amagami... Great, me too. |
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| I first want to know if the spoiler tag there is about the VN of Amagami or the anime? |
_Ako_ said: I first want to know if the spoiler tag there is about the VN of Amagami or the anime? Anime. I haven't played the game as the translation isn't complete yet. The only real spoiler here is for Haruka's arc and somewhat Sae's arc. Mostly, the spoiler tags are used because there's a lot of pictures. |
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Raccoon_Citizen said: Swagernator said: Read the 1st paragraph: http://aminoapps.com/page/anime/8924626-omnibus-formatThis has nothing to do with Seiren but... I've been browsing some Amagami spoilers... Lol, read that and it completely ignores Yosuga no Sora. BTW, nice thread, confirmed that Ikuo is Ai's little brother. |
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| Love this! I was kinda bugged by the timeline too since it does seem we're almost in present day compared to 9 years after Amagami SS. |
| I love how you did all that research... salute man .... respect.... thanks for the info |
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Seiren Episode 2: Aha! Phones! We just need to know what kind it is now... |
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Man... I usually do not post anything here but just for you and your hard work, I'm posting this for congratulating you. You are really awesome! Continue the good work, hoping to have a precise year =D. |
SeerHu said: If Junichi Really End Up With Every Girls, Amagami SS Definitely Will Not Be A Omnibus Format Love Story Anime But Harem Instead. If Junichii Definitely End Up With Ai only, I think that Ikuo will call him Brother In Law After He appears in Seiren. XD You're ignoring the probability of Juniichi never "recovered" from his "trauma" of confessing to girls. |
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Raccoon_Citizen said: Good job! EpicCh33se said: I actually thought about this and hoped that, depending on Seiren's arc, Junichi will be with one who's compatible to the current girl's arc. (Not necessarily in every one of them, but as background characters, like, you see them choosing stuff from a store or going out from a hospital for pregnancy matters, random stuff like that)This does make me wonder that if Junichi were to return in Seiren as a minor character, who would he be with? It'd be cool to see Amagami characters as adults too. I agree with this concept as well. Isn't Seiren going to be a three (3) arc omnibus? Also we know for sure Junichi marries Haruka, Sae, & Tsukasa. So it wouldn't be a reach for each of Shoichi's arc to have a matching Junichi arc wife. Please just don't have Junichi show up with Sakurai R |
broodo said: Please just don't have Junichi show up with Sakurai R Fight me right now irl bro |
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| Having rewatched Amagami SS a few times it always did occur to me that it seemed set in the past. Thanks for putting all this research into it, being a massive fan of the show I really appreciate it. |
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Seiren Episode 3:  Here, we see Tsuneki and her friend communicating via flip phones. Considering that both of them are using flip phones, it seems as if smartphones weren't in the norm yet. I know circular directional pads were kind of common, but Tsuneki's phone (the pink one) really does remind me of this one Motorola phone I had... Motorola seems like an unlikely brand though. There seems to be a word underneath the hinge, and some part of me wants to believe that it's the Japanese phone company: DoCoMo. I'm not entirely sure about the history of DoCoMo phones, more specifically, models and their years (I'm having a bit of a hard time trying to look it up), but I'd say that it's more likely than other brands for now. For the year, I'd say this would definitely be before 2010, maybe even before 2007. Notice: I've started updating the OP post with a list of posts that are relevant. |
EpicCh33seJan 22, 2017 4:24 PM
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| MalacostracaFlame from Reddit and fillerdude from TvTropes pointed out that Sae may be the reason why Ikuo (and in turn, Shouichi) likes Panda Cocoa. Amagami SS+ Episode 7:  Sae, Ai, and Ikuo are seen here during an Inago Mask showing. I'd say that it's likely. The age for Ikuo seems to be about right for this time period as well. |
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| Seiren Episode 5: In this episode, we see the group of friends playing with handheld gaming systems that remind me a bit of the PSP. Thought button laying is kind of different... From this, we can also see that the screens are touchscreen. As you can see here, the game boxes say "GeekGear," which sounds an awful like the Sega Game Gear. I guess the button layout looks like it too. Though, the Game Gear came out in 1990 in Japan and obviously didn't have wireless connection or touchscreen capability... |
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Though that system was only released in South Korea, apparently. The group of friends in Seiren go to a local video game store and purchase a game for the console. I guess the design is just based on something like the GP2X and it's not really a real game console. |
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| They mentioned about 10 years time gap to Amagami. And that a couple did weird things in the pump shed. This gives us a hint at which girl the MC from Amagami choose in the past of the time line Seiren is using. |
| I had my doubts about the omnibus format, never having heard of it before, and intended to drop this show after the first arc. I ended up giving the second arc a shot. The concept itself does not seem to bother me all that much. The second arc is very different in tone from the first one. In fact I found the first episode to be quite hilarious: the deer game, Araraki furry fetish returning after only being hinted at in the first arc, and the naked bear character. It's almost like they're trolling. However, the MC's emotional development being reset, weirds me out, mostly because he is still clearly identifiable as the same person. I can't help but feel this'd been ten times better if they just followed one of the other guys instead, and gone with that. I did realise what in this show appealed to me so much in the first place though. The animation might not be stellar, but the colour tones are. There's lot's of greys and darker tones, and generally not much colour at all on everyday objects and to clothing, while things that do have colour, like the gaming screens, stand out much more. This makes it look very nineties-modern, but also very fitting of urban Japan. IRIS-T said: einzhart said: My theory, seiren wont be omnibus, but dualbus instead, with two MC, kamita and ikuo. And the second arc of miyamae is actually filling the time skip for hikari arc. So there still a chance this is going to be linear (for kamita). There are some hints like the current opening only highlighting 3 girls, and kamita never had a dialogue with other 3 girls. On other hand, ikuo seems to be frequenly encountering with the other 3 girls (red hair girl, dead eye girl, and milk photo girl). At first, seeing amagami, seiren seems similarly omnibus, but after knowing the red haired girl is actually ikuo's childhood friends, i think it is possible to have MC swap in the next cour. Nope, your theory is totally wrong, this is still omnibus, and miyamae`s arc is not a filling to the time skip, just look at the first episode of miyamae`s arc, Hikari is still working on that cafe in disguise which means her secret is still not out, and probably her friend did not betrayed her in this route. It wouldn't make sense either for Miyamae's arc to fill the time skip, as Kamita's attitude towards Hikari was pretty conclusive, and it doesn't work with his 'emotional reset' eiter. |
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Luthandorius said: They mentioned about 10 years time gap to Amagami. And that a couple did weird things in the pump shed. This gives us a hint at which girl the MC from Amagami choose in the past of the time line Seiren is using. It's releaved with that comment. Time of Seiren is 10 years later of Amagami SS. But then, only in this Arc it's stated the date and what girl the MC of Amagami SS took. ;) |
Why do you think so? No hints were. Only one hafu in this show - is Louise Of course she changed her surname from Tachibana on Tsuneki, yeaaaah, riiight... *sarcasm* You need more research. |
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