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| I don't want the harem to crumble, MOMO NO DON'T CRY!!!!!!! |
| All the fools who go around hating on everything should stick to them eighties anime. After all isn't that the golden age of TV anime. |
JAGuys said: But others girl like Lala Yami Mea and Nemesis too are the ones who rescued Rito in some battles so pls don't talk like they do nothing for Rito. And well about others girl they are all young and don't have any love experience (cause that guy is their first love) so it is hard for them to think about that I mean we aren't perfect that why we keep learning and becoming better and better than our old version through experience we have. Talking about Momo she is special and not many girl like that exist so u shouldn't compare her to the rest of the girl (Mikan is amazing as well but she is a sister so we won't have to discuss about her role in this manga) Being rescued in battles, or just helping - does no count. Thats just kindness or good manners (kinda). Rito never was engaged in fight by his own will, and girl that protects him - is a blame for current fight. Yami attacking Rito because of Lala, for example. Besides Momo, only Mikan cares about Rito, and yes, she is most awesome imouto. Btw, she might be not blood related, there some hints in first manga. But she is a family(for now, Lol?), and Momo are not. |
Lex1979 said: I too agree that in Darkness Momo is the closest to Rito (Mikan even got jealous of that) but it's a bit unfair to dismiss what the other girls have done for him. Lala, Yami, Mea, even Nemesis risked their life to protect him and this is a lot more than just kindness or sense of duty. They have a reason to protect him. Nemesis - she is in dept with him. Lala - it is her fault in first place that Yami take Rito as target. Yami same as Lala towards assasins. They all have pretext, and protects him regardless of their love. Or simply saying - protecting a friend is a common thing. Love has nothing to do with that. |
e8 said: Um... did Momo just finger Nana? Not gonna lie, I visited here explicitly to post pretty much the exact same words and verify I wasn't alone on that impression haha. My headcanon is it happened, plus the imagery (seriously, look at Momo's eyes just before the... happening) and dialogue sure does seem to imply it did. Also, it surprises me a bit some think the harem won't happen. There's no way it doesn't come to fruition at this point IMO, there's just too much investment on that front already. Oh, and the general Momo hate, I was under the impression people loved Momo for the lovely, rotten, manipulative bastard she undeniably is lol. |
lpchaimFeb 13, 2017 3:44 PM
lpchaim said: Not gonna lie, I visited here explicitly to post pretty much the exact same words and verify I wasn't alone on that impression haha. My headcanon is it happened, plus the imagery (seriously, look at Momo's eyes just before the... happening) and dialogue sure does seem to imply it did. I thought the fingering was going a little far even for this manga, which is why I thought I'd question it here. But then again, Darkness has actually gone this far before (fingering, BJs, etc.) and a lot of evidence points to it, so I'm guessing Momo did finger Nana. I feel like I'm too innocent to understand this manga sometimes (or maybe I'm just not that sharp), lol. It usually takes me a second read to realize the, um... symbolism... in the ecchi scenes. Who knew that girls love to put soap bars and sticks in between their boobs so much, eh? Even more so, I'm still surprised at Nemesis giving Riko cunnilingus XD lpchaim said: Also, it surprises me a bit some think the harem won't happen. There's no way it doesn't come to fruition at this point IMO, there's just too much investment on that front already. It seems there's going to be another sequel, so the harem could still happen. It's true there has been a lot of investment in the harem, but I doubt the harem will actually happen. Darkness loves to take certain ideas and tropes and go farther with them then any other manga I've seen (e.g. a typical harem storyline evolving into the "harem plan"), but it's pretty unimaginable to me for Rito to be leading a harem. He might not even get married to Lala within the span of the series. I can't say for certain, but harem series almost always have cliche, cop-out endings. We can always hope for the harem, though :D lpchaim said: Oh, and the general Momo hate, I was under the impression people loved Momo for the lovely, rotten, manipulative bastard she undeniably is lol. Well, I think most fans do love Momo. I've seen about 90% love and 10% hate for her. Momo is starting to get some real development now, so more aspects of her character are being discussed. This is just one thread. Characters like Momo and Nemesis aren't always "good" people, but they usually make happen what the fans want -- so fans love 'em XD But I dislike most of the characters in this manga at this point, tbh. (Rito is too oblivious, Mikan isn't as good of a person or sister as most fans think she is, most of the girls are really rude and violent, etc. I guess people just really love imoutos and tsunderes, too XD). I just want to know how things end after reading for so long, you know? |
e8Feb 13, 2017 4:30 PM
e8 said: I thought the fingering was going a little far even for this manga, which is why I thought I'd question it here. But then again, Darkness has actually gone this far before (fingering, BJs, etc.) and a lot of evidence points to it, so I'm guessing Momo did finger Nana. I feel like I'm too innocent to understand this manga sometimes (or maybe I'm just not that sharp), lol. It usually takes me a second read to realize the, um... symbolism... in the ecchi scenes. Who knew that girls love to put soap bars and sticks in between their boobs so much, eh? Even more so, I'm still surprised at Nemesis giving Riko cunnilingus XD Well, I guess I am as well because I sure don't remember noticing that Nemesis thing lol. e8 said: It seems there's going to be another sequel, so the harem could still happen. It's true there has been a lot of investment in the harem, but I doubt the harem will actually happen. Darkness loves to take certain ideas and tropes and go farther with them then any other manga I've seen (e.g. a typical harem storyline evolving into the "harem plan"), but it's pretty unimaginable to me for Rito to be leading a harem. He might not even get married to Lala within the span of the series. I can't say for certain, but harem series almost always have cliche, cop-out endings. We can always hope for the harem, though :D Fair enough. I'm still holding out hope for the sheer absurdity of it. To me, that's what To Love-Ru is all about anyway, taking stuff and just running with it and making it work somehow, so it'd make a twisted kind of sense. e8 said: Well, I think most fans do love Momo. I've seen about 90% love and 10% hate for her. Momo is starting to get some real development now, so more aspects of her character are being discussed. This is just one thread. Characters like Momo and Nemesis aren't always "good" people, but they usually make happen what the fans want -- so fans love 'em XD Yeah, I realize I shouldn't take this as a general impression at all but it still surprised me just how many negative comments there were. e8 said: But I dislike most of the characters in this manga at this point, tbh. (Rito is too oblivious, Mikan isn't as good of a person or sister as most fans think she is, most of the girls are really rude and violent, etc. I guess people just really love imoutos and tsunderes, too XD). I just want to know how things end after reading for so long, you know? Yeah, I'm with you. Can't help but agree about the characters as well, even if most are endearing in their own way. I guess Haruna is the least irrational one at the end of the day, and Rito does have his momments once in a blue moon but otherwise he really is the apex of the dense harem protagonist with the addmitedly interesting twist he's got almost literally magic perversion powers (There's that one episode where they study him and suggest there's evidence to concur he pretty much uncunsciously makes the universe conspire for him to pull off his ridiculous stunts, which I personally found hilarious) Everyone acknowledges his shenanigans as unnatural, which is nice too. |
lpchaimFeb 13, 2017 5:29 PM
lpchaim said: Well, I guess I am as well because I sure don't remember noticing that Nemesis thing lol. At the end of chapter 74 when Nemesis is molesting Riko, the scene (I'm writing from memory here, so you might want to check this for yourself) suspiciously cuts out after Nemesis spreads open Riko's privates and sticks out her tongue. The scene cuts back as Nemesis is retracting her tongue from what looked like Riko's privates at a carefully chosen angle. So I figured some amount of cunnilingus happened here. (And considering there has been face-to-privates borderline cunnilingus and BJs in Darkness already...) lpchaim said: Fair enough. I'm still holding out hope for the sheer absurdity of it. To me, that's what To Love-Ru is all about anyway, taking stuff and just running with it and making it work somehow, so it'd make a twisted kind of sense. This is the only harem series I've stuck with for so long. The writer actually seems to understand what fans want and knows how to keep things interesting, so I guess there's always hope. Maybe Rito will end up as king but just be totally awkward about it, lol. I can totally imagine him walking off his throne in what we're lead to believe is a very serious moment, but he suddenly trips into the crowd, somehow managing to grab every girl but avoiding every guy XD lpchaim said: Yeah, I realize I shouldn't take this as a general impression at all but it still surprised me just how many negative comments there were. Most Momo hate I've seen comes from Mikan and Nana fanboys, because Momo competes with them the most. lpchaim said: Yeah, I'm with you. Can't help but agree about the characters as well, even if most are endearing in their own way. I guess Haruna is the least irrational one at the end of the day The main two girls, Lala and Haruna, are the characters I probably like the most. Haruna gets a lot of hate because Rito x Haruna means no Rito x Lala or Rito x Everybody, but I like how she's nicer than the other girls, is a little more open about her feelings... oh, and she's revealed herself to be a total closet pervert, lol. (Well, a pervert by ecchi manga standards.) lpchaim said: Rito does have his momments once in a blue moon but otherwise he really is the apex of the dense harem protagonist with the addmitedly interesting twist he's got almost literally magic perversion powers (There's that one episode where they study him and suggest there's evidence to concur he pretty much uncunsciously makes the universe conspire for him to pull off his ridiculous stunts, which I personally found hilarious) This is what I was talking about how Darkness takes certain ideas and goes so far with them. The fact that this tripping-and-groping running gag actually has a "legitimate" scientific explanation is not only hilarious, but it makes me wonder why other mangas seem to have been so afraid to be more bold and ridiculous like we already know they are XD lpchaim said: Everyone acknowledges his shenanigans as unnatural, which is nice too. This continues my thought. I like the series more for how the girls hold Rito's accidents against him and don't just forgot about them after every chapter, but this is part of what makes me dislike the actual characters. Yeah, he's oblivious and annoying, but for how long do these girls have to 1) love him, 2) understand his accidents are beyond his control and 3) even admit this/forgive him before they give him a break? At the same time though, lol, this is what makes me dislike Rito, because he's too nice and naive for his own good. If most guys were in his situation, they would be like, "Did you just slap me 'cause I tripped? BITCH I'M PUTTING A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD RIGHT NOW!" That's all for now XD |
e8Feb 13, 2017 6:06 PM
Uoipka said: Lex1979 said: Ow that properly fall of skill. I think he's already capped it but...Now I have to see this scene. The series isn't over yet, so I'm sure there are some more epic falls to come. After Yui's accidental BJ, everyone was joking about how Rito could fall and accidentally lose his virginity. The funniest thing is, that wouldn't even be that much of a stretch at this point XD |
e8Feb 14, 2017 11:31 AM
e8 said: At the end of chapter 74 when Nemesis is molesting Riko, the scene (I'm writing from memory here, so you might want to check this for yourself) suspiciously cuts out after Nemesis spreads open Riko's privates and sticks out her tongue. The scene cuts back as Nemesis is retracting her tongue from what looked like Riko's privates at a carefully chosen angle. So I figured some amount of cunnilingus happened here. (And considering there has been face-to-privates borderline cunnilingus and BJs in Darkness already...) Ah, I see it now. Pretty subtle, huh? After catching, or rather not catching that I wonder just how many I've missed at this point lol. Kinda makes me want to reread it all. I did get the implied BJs though, so I guess that's something! As for the rest of your thoughts, I echo pretty much all of them and don't think I've really got anything interesting to add. It'd seem our expectations and impressions are quite compatible haha. Anyway, I really appreciate the little discussion we got going on there e8. Turns out it's pretty fun to ramble about ongoing manga with fellow readers, so I think I'll stick around these forums for a while haha. |
lpchaim said: Ah, I see it now. Pretty subtle, huh? After catching, or rather not catching that I wonder just how many I've missed at this point lol. Kinda makes me want to reread it all. I did get the implied BJs though, so I guess that's something! There have been several moments like that, but if you caught the BJs and fingerings, you've probably caught all the important ones. I've also gotten that feeling, though -- that I need to reread the entire series after realizing I've missed something. The artwork often has these little details and symbols that make me paranoid. And the symbolism and timing in certain scenes always make me wonder. For example, in that scene with Yui's accidental BJ, the actual BJ was obvious enough (although it was actually the reactions of the other characters that made me realize it), but I thought it was a little suspicious how we got a close-up of Yui's navel being spread open (with that hilarious "This is just a belly button" note) before she falls on top of Rito (and then, you know...). Thinking of it even more symbolically: one of Yui's holes are spread open and Rito's privates enter one of her holes. I might be reading too much into this (or I could have a much dirtier mind than I thought), but something as odd and specific as Yui's navel being made to look like her privates is just... it makes me wonder if this was some pseudo-penetration hint. The hardest stuff for me to catch overall is how certain images are reflected in the characters' pupils (or even in some of the larger bubbles in the bath scenes, as I've heard some fans debate). I mean, come on XD lpchaim said: Anyway, I really appreciate the little discussion we got going on there e8. Turns out it's pretty fun to ramble about ongoing manga with fellow readers, so I think I'll stick around these forums for a while haha. Np, it's always nice to discuss with a like-minded person. I originally joined these forums to ask for a few recommendations, but I have ended sticking enough for a weeks now already. |
Lex1979 said: In what chapter was Yui's implied BJ? I totally missed it. Chapter 64, I believe. |
Lex1979 said: Thanks! I would never noticed it if you didn't point out. Haha :P I usually find it nice to read the comments or discussions for each chapter. Fans are really good at pointing out little details, fun facts and whatnot (or stuff you just missed). I only started reading these MAL discussions a few chapters ago for this series, but I wish I would have started sooner XD |
Takuan_Soho said: e8 said: but something as odd and specific as Yui's navel being made to look like her privates is just... it makes me wonder if this was some pseudo-penetration hint. Hint? No. Klaxons blaring. Yes!!!!! Haha. Like I said, I don't catch on to this stuff very quickly XD |
| Can't believe they actually showed Momo crying....that was kinda mean, considering the type of manga this is. Anyways....this is it....the final chapter of Darkness is upon us. What an amazing ride this has been. Regardless what happens, Darkness goes down as the greatest ecchi manga of all time as far as I'm concerned! My personal opinion is that we will NOT have a conclusive ending.... Especially since it seems like they're gonna do a sequel manga or something... Either way....lets see what Momo does. Like it or not, Momo IS the main heroine of Darkness....there is no doubt about it....the Harem Plan was her invention and the story has mostly revolved around her. I BELIEVE IN MOMO! |
| Eh... Haruna and Rito.. one more to end. |
| Seeing Momo cry was too heartbreaking for me. I know a lot of people think Momo is really selfish and inconsiderate of other people's feelings, but I honestly don't find her selfish at all. But as I said before, I'm not a fan of the harem plan. I want Rito to only end up with Momo and no one else, which is highly unlikely right now. |
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