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Aug 11, 2016 5:22 AM
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Well this was a tense episode. With Yukina kidnapped, no doubt that Ouma and the others wants to save her.

Looks like Ouma still shows loyalty to his "Hime". Sophie also does her own investigation. I think the buildup is interesting considering the very different shift in mood compared to the previous episode. I wonder how well Ouma and Muetta can cooperate together when fighting.
Aug 11, 2016 6:13 AM
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So Yukina and Yukihime have more in common than just their looks which is rather interesting.
But it seems Yukihime still needs some convincing about her past.

Things are looking very nice right now.
Aug 11, 2016 6:54 AM
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Pretty decent build-up for what's to come. I wonder what Sophie will do now, considering she met the masked "demon" personally in this episode.

Pretty exciting stuff this episode. I can't wait for future episodes. Great episode once again. Things are about to get serious.


Aug 11, 2016 11:46 AM
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Yukina and Yukihime have the same DNA and look!!

Poor Yukina, she is mistaken as Yukihime by the demons!
Aug 11, 2016 12:37 PM
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Good to know that Yukina and Yukihime are actually related. They are in a pretty tight spot. I really like how last ep was all nice and calm but now we got a pretty exciting turn. The writing on the floor said something about meeting demons or something (kanji is hard af!) Hopefully Sophie plays a big part in saving Yukina.
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Aug 11, 2016 12:51 PM
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wut theres actually a recording funtion inside the robot
Aug 11, 2016 6:51 PM
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salient points from this episode (as of yet untranslated):

1.Yukihime and Yukina have identical DNA. More than likely that Yukina is a clone of Yukihime, and altogether more likely that the "Demon" is in fact Yukina's father.

2.The Demon meets with Sophie. From my very limited knowledge of Japanese, it appears he's a survivor of a war between the Efidolg Empire and some other faction. A tacit alliance is negotiated between two "enemies" of the Efidolg Empire.

3. Crucial plot point: It appears that Ken's blood contains a form of nanomachine virus, of the same type that Kuromukuro uses against other geoframes. Of note is that Ken's give off a blue tinge while the ones used to maintain structural stability in Efidolg Geoframes are red. Brainwashing confirmed in that Ken's blood is used to neutralize Yukihime's nanomachines. More so in that Yukina is dumped into a stasis chamber by a Cactus mechanoid, which clearly contains modification fluid of the same type that Ken was once immersed in.
Aug 12, 2016 7:32 PM
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Huzzah! Saved by being stuffed into a giant rubber golf bag! I laughed when the robot just chucked her into the regen tank like a load of washing.

I did like this episode, especially how that mysterious anti-Efildog fellow with the horned mask contacted Sophie.

I agree with Yukina's Mom: screw the UN, I'll get my daughter rescued my own way!
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Aug 12, 2016 8:52 PM
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Yukihime and Yukina have identical DNA but they made a reference that that relationship is of an relative since the doctor said Yukina's mother also shared this DNA. So my speculation is that 450 years ago Zerus and Yukihime/Ken fought each other for some reason. That would explain why Ken has a memory of a demon that resembles Zerus. Unknown possible knowledge is that Yukihime father is also Zerus and that they were part of the exploration party sent to earth 450 years ago. I also note that when Yukihime and Zerus fought at the school I felt that Zerus was holding back greatly and in a way evaluating her, possibly to see if it was truly his daughter or not or something along that line. I speculate that in that explosion when Yukihime was ejected from the Black relic she lost concussions and suffered server damage and memory loss along with minor memory loss on Ken as well. Zerus must have somehow through some unknown way sent Yukihime back to that giant ship in order for her to be saved since 450 years ago a way to save her was not available. Zerus put Ken in cryo-stasis to possibly regenerate damage from there encounter and left him in there. Meanwhile Zerus lives among the Japanese people and has children with humans hence starting Yukina's bloodline. It is also possible that Zerus is Yukina's father and in reality mated with one of his descendants to have Yukina and her sister, i guess that wouldn't be as bad if it was sooner generations that this had happened.

This is just my speculations let me know what you think.
Aug 12, 2016 9:15 PM
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lol Mirasa can't even kill Yukina, love how lame she is.
Aug 12, 2016 10:05 PM

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yukihime finally cooperating...... I knew they were related somehow....
Aug 12, 2016 10:41 PM
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Yukina - the most useless main anime character in this season...
Aug 12, 2016 10:42 PM

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damn even the mother has identical DNA to that Muetta/Yukihime lol her genes is too strong

Sophie will finally know the truth next episode
Aug 12, 2016 10:46 PM

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Episode that show "Mother's Power".

They even thought Yukina as Muetta. Well they will realize it soon, and it's not their fault for making that mistake. It's law of nature's fault. LOL
Oh no, not Sophie too. Don't do it Spohie, because you're now the only person that can calm Kennosuke down.
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Aug 13, 2016 8:45 AM

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PA Works is doing it very well. Interesting episode, can't wait for more.
Dub = fake crap. Always.
Aug 14, 2016 4:40 AM

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so hype for next episode
Aug 14, 2016 10:44 AM

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Not really sure what to think of this episode... The fact that Yukina's DNA, even after so many years of inter-mixing with other external gene pools, just so happens to come back to become the same as her ancestor of 460 years ago..... and this is possible how?
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Aug 15, 2016 4:30 AM
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L-Ryoshi said:
Not really sure what to think of this episode... The fact that Yukina's DNA, even after so many years of inter-mixing with other external gene pools, just so happens to come back to become the same as her ancestor of 460 years ago..... and this is possible how?

Actually, that just doctor's opinion, so still hard to say.
Aug 15, 2016 5:34 AM
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Shocking reveals.
Oni isn't earthling nor Efidolg, & implied he lived there long enough to see the language evolve. So probably not Yukina's dad, unless her mom was fine with aliens.
Lol Oni hails cosplay culture, Mika'd be proud.
Tom wants to save private ryan.
"You got mail" moment in a robot, Yukina's not smart enough to read mail otherwise she'd have seen it.
Aug 15, 2016 7:44 PM

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Definitely one of the more intense episodes, i just hope Yukina is okay.
Aug 16, 2016 8:00 PM
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God, i hate sophie. pls go back to france already
Aug 17, 2016 3:47 AM
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I Speculate That The True Identity Of Oni Ken Talk About Actually Is Father Of Female Main Character, BECAUSE He Gives Me The Deja vu Of Darth Vader.
Aug 17, 2016 5:26 PM

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I've started watching this after being disappointed in so many other shows.

Kuromukuro is now one of my favorite anime this season.
Aug 27, 2016 4:12 AM

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Mysterious guy creeped the heck out of me in that scene where he suddenly showed up tbh, so Yukina and Muetta have the same genes huh... I hope they have a believable explanation for that. Interesting episode overall. 5/5
Aug 28, 2016 2:37 PM

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Man, now this episode was chock full of some very convenient plot points...
Funnily, for some reason I can still very much enjoy it. Strange charm, have dropped others for less.
Sep 9, 2016 2:06 AM

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The D.N.A. shuffle magic needs a very big clarification. Good episode otherwise, we can feel the end coming.

5/5
Sep 17, 2016 3:24 PM

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So I guess Sophie is still "leaving". I can tell we are approaching the end... its getting more exciting.
Sep 30, 2016 6:57 AM

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Very exciting episode, there's a full plate during the narration, much substance and many satisfactions, unlike other episodes a bit slow and cumbersome. Designs with ups and downs, which advances the plot. Great scenarios, I'm curious to find out how to explain, if it ever will, that Yukihime had offspring while not a terrestrial and not by living longer after the incident had in the past.
Jan 10, 2017 2:49 AM

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Nice to see yukihime want to help out , and it looks like she wants answers too
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Apr 30, 2017 12:07 AM
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yup brainwashing confirmed and of course they are related that was obvious from the get go.
Jul 27, 2017 3:20 PM
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Guess the The Universal Declaration of Human Rights got lost somewhere along the way in this version of the U.N.

Exactly the same DNA. Really? Couldn't a former pilot just pilot the mecha without needing the exact same DNA. So I guess this means Yukihime already had children.

Nice to see the commander asserting in his authority in not letting Sophie pilot. Of course she will later on.
Apr 11, 2018 1:19 AM

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They mistook Yukina for Muetta.
All the characteristics of her body indicate that she is Muetta?
Mika booty.
Dat slap. Baka Kaya.
Yukihime and Yukina are the same person? The same DNA? The same as Kaasan as well?
Dat writing.
Dat stab. Its empty.
Yes. Luckily, Kennosuke's blood is O.
Demon in the house!
The Kuromukuro activated.
Dat video of Yukihime. For her descendant?
Yukina is awake.
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Dec 29, 2018 8:10 AM

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Here I go again with my far-fetched theories but whatever. I think Yukihime is really what Kennosuke thinks she is, a princess from 450 years ago. Now these efi dolgs came and killed a bunch of people but Yukihime survived, they kidnapped and brainwashed her to make her a loyal soldier. Now the reason why she's alive must be because of some anti-aging technology. And that masked ogre guy was from efi dolg but he betrayed them probably because of how cruel they are to humans. Lol I don't know I still have a lot of things I'm not sure of.
Feb 28, 2020 12:32 AM
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It's pretty clear to me that Yukihime (current) is a clone of the original princess. The most interesting thing right now for me is who the ogre dude really is and what his agenda is.
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