Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Strident said: Jagd84 said: No he didn't. All he was own memories as evidence which could have been all hallucination or deja vu to begin with give how absurd the whole situation is. Beside if he were dumb as you said he still be this in completely unaware of his ability even now wouldn't be making any decisive decisions. He isn't which just leaves forcing an issue that no longer relevant because you need some negative to grasp as straws with. Just stop with the moot arguments already because you just doing for sake which leading you to nowhere. I don't really appreciate the caustic tone. You are free to have your own opinion on things, as am I. If you don't agree with mine, then you don't have reply. Calling my arguments "moot" and saying that I am arguing "for my sake" is rather distasteful, for many reasons. Before Newton discovered gravity, the people accepted that man must fall towards the Earth. Killed enough times, Subaru must accept that he gets taken back to the ringa stand. Re:Zero wants a self-aware hikkineet protagonist, but wants him conveniently to lack deduction capabilities to stall the plot. That's how I see it, and you are free to disagree, but there is no need for insults between viewers. Never in my post did insult you, only your point. It's not my fault your still arguing about something the story moved on from quickly. |
DarionLunis said: I haven't read the manga, but did you hear what the appa guy said on the second encounter? (of that life) That there was another guy who looked just like him that helped find his lost daughter. That was like his first life there. So there might be multiples of his previous selves running around. And at the end of the first life, he did ask Satella to wait outside. I think that time caught up to them and "adjusted" to him already being in the loot house. That or the Red Haired guy told Satella the opposite information? Oh, not this again. You guys complaining how dumb MC not realizing time loop as soon as he respwan at first time, but keep assuming "broke kid" who help fruit seller kid at 4th loop was Subaru. Look at the end 2nd eps Satella has same flower pin from 1-b eps, she got it from that lost little girl. |
Xion69 said: Reinhardt is a bad guy.he is with the evil women. He screwed up even more later episodes will tell that Evil women knows something is wrong after meeting MC in this episode. This Time travel anime has so much reused scene. Lazy & easier for anime creators. Hahahaha we are so fuck up if this scene is repeated until episode 24 |
| Its not a time travel show if the episode discussion doesn't have more than 5 pages. I sure hope he will pass through this stage this time and not dying again, it will be annoying to repeat it again back from before he met Satella. |
Strident said: Jagd84 said: Never in my post did insult you, only your point. It's not my fault your still arguing about something the story moved on from quickly. You claimed that I was, "forcing an issue that no longer relevant because you need some negative to grasp as straws with." You deride me as arguing because I am "just doing for sake which leading you to nowhere". Now you claim that "It's not (your) fault (I'm) still arguing..." Ignoring the grammatical errors, you certainly appear to be attacking me for having my viewpoint. You are free to have your opinion, but your subtext is clearly derisive and I advise you to desist. Otherwise, we may just end this discussion altogether. How any of that a personal insult? Everything I said was directed at your argument because yes do indeed keep bring up ad nauseam. |
| There shouldn't have been a third time leap. He should have realized his ability the second time because the show is already having pacing problems as it is. But he sure can't stay alive. He is given three chances to live and he fucked it all up. Well I sure hope he doesnt die a fourth time because Im already tired of seeing him relive the day. |
"I have been wielding a blade since before your were swimming around your father's scrotum." - Kurou |
desertkona said: Endless 24. FuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuXion69 said: Reinhardt is a bad guy.he is with the evil women. He screwed up even more later episodes will tell that Evil women knows something is wrong after meeting MC in this episode. This Time travel anime has so much reused scene. Lazy & easier for anime creators. Hahahaha we are so fuck up if this scene is repeated until episode 24 |
FlamepriesT said: Endless 24. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Its Groundhog Day! |
| Am I the only one who got chills at the end lol |
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| Episode was pretty good, but also extremely annoying. The protagonist is really slow to remember the past and seems to throw his life away meaninglessly a lot. In short: he acts retarded under pressure. Perhaps that's meant to be comedic, but I just find it extremely frustrating. EDIT: Seems I am not alone in thinking the protagonist lacks deductive capacity. I think the only saving grace they could offer is that it is difficult for him to remember previous timelines or thing about them logically, but if that was the case they should have communicated it more clearly. |
MatorApr 10, 2016 9:20 PM
| The 3rd Episode will be intense. The Pacing is fast but decent that it took only take 4 episode to complete the 1st Volume, probably if they'll continue to this they will cover up the story until volume 6. I'm glad that this anime will cover up the untranslated volumes,Since the Translated Manga Adaptation has ended at volume 2 with a cliffhanger. Nice Sound and Animation. |
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MC can relive this same day for 24 episodes if he wants to, as long as I get to keep seeing (and hearing) Elsa and her: |
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| OMG Epic Op and Ed Song |
| This was a pretty good episode. Subaru eventually found out that he has the ability to time leap. Now he's thinking more rationally and trying really hard to return the insignia back to Satella but also preventing Felt and the old man's death from Elsa. Subaru acting like a damsel in distress while calling out to the guards was pretty funny. Reinhard is a new character that we haven't seen before. I have a feeling he's somehow working for Elsa but I hope I'm wrong. Elsa suddenly appearing in front of Subaru was really intense and creepy. Elsa's presence is absolutely terrifying and seeing her lick her lips sent chills down my spine. The OST was really on point with the creepy factor though, my god. That small Felt fight with Subaru was pretty cool except Subaru was just defending himself with a wooden table haha. Just when I thought it was Elsa at the door, I was so glad to see it was Satella. I gotta say, when the ED song played I got so excited. I love the ED song so much and I could listen to it on loop for ages. OP from Suzuki Konomi is pretty decent. Episode 3 is gonna be so great, I can't wait! 5/5 |
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| I'm in love with this series, I can't wait for the next episodes. |
| I'm so inlove with the ed the op not bad too....x) Nice ep btw. |
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Kaetokiha said: mira-pyon said: I liked the first ep(a+b), but this ep is essentially the MC being clueless at the start, then the MC being helpless towards the end. It's nice to see his fear and trauma and all that crap, but clueless + helpless in one ep is really horrible to view, imo. Why do you think Subaru was helpless? I think he did well enough. He went directly after Felt so he could speed things up with her then he tried to convince her to trade with him, but i a guess he was not counting with Felt being so greedy and hard to convince. He knows Elsa will kill all of then after she gets there and this is something he can't do anything about other than running away before she gets there. It's kinda hard to explain. I acknowledge that he tried to stop the massacre from happening again and that he tried to get Felt to give him the insignia so he can get on his way, but he just felt rather helpless. I mean, why he feels helpless to me, or what would be better choices of actions could only be specified if I watched the ep and reviewed at the same time. Which I don't wanna do. I'm just saying that at the end of the ep, he just felt pretty helpless. I mean, his helplessness is justified(becuz it's not like he can fight Erza/Elsa and win) but it doesn't mean I have to like it. |
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Xynic said: There shouldn't have been a third time leap. He should have realized his ability the second time because the show is already having pacing problems as it is. But he sure can't stay alive. He is given three chances to live and he fucked it all up. Well I sure hope he doesnt die a fourth time because Im already tired of seeing him relive the day. He died once and thought... maybe it was all a dream or something. It's a reasonable assumption. He died twice and came back and then realized. I mean... if you really think about it. It makes a lot of sense. |
| Elsa is creepy as hell, but she's hot :p I really like the ED song. It's catchy :) And I really like the OST for this show so far. Notable ones were the futuristic-sounding track right after the OP, the eerie track when he encountered Elsa, and the fast-paced track at the end to help build up tension in the viewer, because Elsa could show up and KILL THEM AT ANY MOMENT O__O; |
| Still doubtful of Reinhard, not sure if he'll turn out to be a good guy or not. Not as interesting as the first episode, but enough to keep me liking the show. Overall it felt like not much happened in 20+ minutes. |
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| Oh man, I REALLY like the OP and Ending. Poor Subaru. This kid is going to be in for one hell of a time... |
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Samhiuy said: Mator said: Episode was pretty good, but also extremely annoying. The protagonist is really slow to remember the past and seems to throw his life away meaninglessly a lot. In short: he acts retarded under pressure. Perhaps that's meant to be comedic, but I just find it extremely frustrating. EDIT: Seems I am not alone in thinking the protagonist lacks deductive capacity. I think the only saving grace they could offer is that it is difficult for him to remember previous timelines or thing about them logically, but if that was the case they should have communicated it more clearly. Nah, it is not really for comedic purposes. He is a dumb retard, but definitely smarter than the people here that keep claiming that he helped the lost kid in his 4th life. He will actually stay this way for quite some time, so you should binge watch this rather than watching it week by week. He is like a noob at Dark Souls/Monster Hunter that doesn't really plan beforehand and keeps dying again and again. He is the type that does things by trial and error until he luckily gets it right. Yes, he does get developed later on, so be glad that it is 25 episodes. If it was 13 episodes, no one else would want a second season since the show ends with him never redeeming himself. He is written as a retard because this is a "zero to hero" story (hence the zero in the title). I wish that every time Stark700 opens a new episode thread, this paragraph is added in the opening post to let everyone know that the protagonist is a retard. No, it's not just you. It's meant to be that way. Thanks for the explanation, it's appreciated. :) I'll probably binge watch this per your suggestion then. It'll be hard to not watch it weekly, but maybe I can hide it from my feeds and then I'll not notice it. |
Mator said: Episode was pretty good, but also extremely annoying. The protagonist is really slow to remember the past and seems to throw his life away meaninglessly a lot. In short: he acts retarded under pressure. Perhaps that's meant to be comedic, but I just find it extremely frustrating. EDIT: Seems I am not alone in thinking the protagonist lacks deductive capacity. I think the only saving grace they could offer is that it is difficult for him to remember previous timelines or thing about them logically, but if that was the case they should have communicated it more clearly. He.. literally just half episode complementing whether he wanted to get involved in Satella's situation or live of the money he'd get from selling and forget about everything. He choice the former (1 one he feel he owes Satella for saving his life, 2) He can't live himself if he abandoned good people when he had the power to help them. If that is not decisive thing than nothing else is. And no before you even say it, Subaru making decisive decisions have nothing to do with whether you agree them or not, only just about how clearly and quickly someone can make personal choices. Xynic said: There shouldn't have been a third time leap. He should have realized his ability the second time because the show is already having pacing problems as it is. But he sure can't stay alive. He is given three chances to live and he fucked it all up. Well I sure hope he doesnt die a fourth time because Im already tired of seeing him relive the day. The third leap was fastest out all of them literal happened around the same time of day. It had no effect on the pacing at all. |
Iron_MawApr 11, 2016 1:16 AM
Jagd84 said: But they really didn't need to make a third time leap. It didn't add anything to the story. It was just there to make the episode longer.Xynic said: There shouldn't have been a third time leap. He should have realized his ability the second time because the show is already having pacing problems as it is. But he sure can't stay alive. He is given three chances to live and he fucked it all up. Well I sure hope he doesnt die a fourth time because Im already tired of seeing him relive the day. The third leap was fastest out all of them literal happened around the same time of day. It had no effect on the pacing at all. |
"I have been wielding a blade since before your were swimming around your father's scrotum." - Kurou |
MarianSony11 said: Sigsig said: Man I have never seen an MC die so many times. The ending was such a relieving twist. It seems you didn't watch many anime... Compared to you? Of course not. Does that make my opinion any less valid? No. |
| オタクなんじゃねぃよ I'm not an otaku. |
Xynic said: Jagd84 said: But they really didn't need to make a third time leap. It didn't add anything to the story. It was just there to make the episode longer.The third leap was fastest out all of them literal happened around the same time of day. It had no effect on the pacing at all. The point of third leap was to show happened between Satella and Felt, revealed that fact that Satella is both a fake name and infamous one and aid in Subaru learning about his revival ability. Without it he wouldn't have met Reinhard either. Not only was it the shortest cycle it revealed very important information took basically no time at all. The rest of 16 minutes of the is episode was spent on 4th cycle and ended needed to be. So no I don't agree. |
Iron_MawApr 11, 2016 12:26 AM
Xynic said: Jagd84 said: But they really didn't need to make a third time leap. It didn't add anything to the story. It was just there to make the episode longer.The third leap was fastest out all of them literal happened around the same time of day. It had no effect on the pacing at all. Well they certainly don't have to. But it adds more to Subaru's knowledge when he was killed with a knife by them. Since the bad guys were afraid of what will happen to them, Subaru learned that there's such thing as law and order in that world. That leads to his meeting with Reinhardt. If he had not been killed on that third loop, he'd probably won't know for awhile about the national guard nor meeting Reinhardt. Kind of like butterfly effect thing. Also because he met with Reinhardt, he didn't caught up with Satella or Felt, so he met Elsa on the way to Felt's house. |
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krazeecain said: I haven't read the manga, is this entire series going to be repeating the same day over and over? Like Groundhog day? If so I'm going to paaaaass on this. lol Don't worry, he won't repeating the same day over and over again for 24 episodes lol. Next episode should conclude this arc. |
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| I've seen the op and thinking the possibility of the main character will carry snacks crackle until the end of the story. and someone please count how many times Subaru will die. |
dhikiApr 11, 2016 12:38 AM
Sorry for my bad English  Humans see what they want to see |
| Based on this episode summary, the pacing seems more or less good I think. Episode 3 should conclude this arc. Episode 4-6 is about half of second arc, so I think episode 8-9 is the best spot to stop. And finally third arc would be episode 9-24. Episode 6 is titled "The sound of Chain" oh boy... one of my favorite moment right there. That means 3 weeks away, come on! |
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Jagd84 said: Xynic said: But they really didn't need to make a third time leap. It didn't add anything to the story. It was just there to make the episode longer. The point of third leap was to show happened between Satella and Felt, revealed that fact that Satella is both a fake name and infamous one and aid in Subaru learning about his revival ability. Not only was it the shortest cycle it revealed very important information took basically no time at all. The rest of 16 minutes of the is episode was spent on 4th cycle and ended needed to be. So no I don't agree. DarklordVor said: Xynic said: But they really didn't need to make a third time leap. It didn't add anything to the story. It was just there to make the episode longer. Well they certainly don't have to. But it adds more to Subaru's knowledge when he was killed with a knife by them. Since the bad guys were afraid of what will happen to them, Subaru learned that there's such thing as law and order in that world. That leads to his meeting with Reinhardt. If he had not been killed on that third loop, he'd probably won't know for awhile about the national guard nor meeting Reinhardt. Kind of like butterfly effect thing. Also because he met with Reinhardt, he didn't caught up with Satella or Felt, so he met Elsa on the way to Felt's house. I think I need to make a little correction on my post. When I said the 2nd time I meant the 3rd time. So what I meant is that the 4th time leap is the that isn't needed. But my opinion remains the same. He didn't need to make a 4th time leap they could've just continued with the story. He didn't need to be killed in the alley. He could have just met Reinhardt there. Yes the 3rd time leap is short but when he made another time leap it just made the show seem repetitive. |
"I have been wielding a blade since before your were swimming around your father's scrotum." - Kurou |
| I personally think the wordy dialogue does a lot in this show's favour. Everything Subaru does impacts each "timeline", and a lot of the mistakes he's making in trying to reach a "good end" are dialogue-based. Based on these first two episodes, Subaru's interactions and relationships with these characters are going to progress him in finding a way to reach a satisfactory conclusion. A good example of this is Subaru not knowing Satella's actual name. When he actually finds out her name, so many doors will start to open for him. He would be able to tell Reinhard her name for him to relay Subaru's message to her, he wouldn't cause such a commotion everywhere by spouting what seems to be the Voldemort equivalent of this world, etc. With Subaru being a supposed NEET, a narrative structure like this makes it so easy to give him character development, building bonds that he never got to experience in the real world. This is why I think the dialogue is so crucial to this anime in particular, and it is being handled very dynamically in my opinion. This show might just become the antithesis to the show, don't tell rule. |
DarklordVor said: Based on this episode summary, the pacing seems more or less good I think. Episode 3 should conclude this arc. Episode 4-6 is about half of second arc, so I think episode 8-9 is the best spot to stop. And finally third arc would be episode 9-24. Episode 6 is titled "The sound of Chain" oh boy... one of my favorite moment right there. That means 3 weeks away, come on! I've been seeing people calling it first arc, second arc, and third arc. What's up with that? Why would the first arc be the shortest and third arc the longest? I'm confused. |
Re__Zero said: As for the possibilities of what happenedHaven't seen this good a anime for a long time, this it's just awesome. After watching the second episode, a lot of questions came up to my mind when Satella walked into the loot house before Elsa, and here are some possibilities of what happened(i think) 1)The red hair guy told Satella to come to the loot house. (Look like he knows who Satella is but just don't want to say so, and plus he and satella wears the same white clothing) 2)Subaru accidentally ran in to Elsa delayed her plans. 3)Subaru's time leap is not perfect, every time when he does that, something from the original world change.
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| Did Subaru introduce himself to Reinhard? If so I didn't catch it and it was weird how Reinhard was calling him by name. Super nice guy though, almost too nice. I hope he doesn't turn out evil or something later on. Hope that they flush out the 2 cours. Looking forward to this series. I love how much he fears Elsa. |
MirorinApr 11, 2016 2:20 AM
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