Forum SettingsEpisode Information
Forums
New
What did you think of this episode?
DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
Mar 21, 2012 4:17 PM
#1

Offline
Feb 2012
1918
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
----------------------------------------
So the true Noir is Chloe+Kirika, not Chloe+Altena. Hm.
Jul 9, 2012 11:47 PM
#2
Offline
Dec 2010
31
What's Murielle's involvement, within the context of her parents dying to protect her while simultaneously betraying the Soldats? Was she supposed to become part of the true Noir, but her parents backed out of the deal maybe?

Also, the part at the end, where Kirika is about to console her, but then awkwardly decides not to. Amazing scene.
Sep 10, 2012 9:27 PM
#3
Offline
Feb 2008
418
Pretty slow episode but then again I guess that's how Noir operates. I'm starting to think this show could've used some condensing though. I mean her parents being part of Soldats seemed obvious once her Uncle showed up few episodes back. Though the revealtion from Chloe was interesting. i still think they're sisters or some such nonsense.
Aug 22, 2013 11:50 PM
#4

Offline
Sep 2012
2258
Oh wow. So she is a child of the Soldats. What is she going to do about it though?
Jul 6, 2015 6:01 PM
#5

Offline
Jul 2014
55
i really enjoyed this ep! personally i don't mind that it was slower than usual as truly fulfilled my expectations on character development and feelings and athmosphere.
also, now i feel like that it's really more than gunfights and shot-and-run duels. DEEPER.
Nov 27, 2015 2:30 PM
#6

Offline
Jul 2009
3344
Great episode.

Finally they revealed alot of stuff. So Kirika and Chloe is the true Noir. Mireille's parents and organization are confirmed to be part of Soldats.

Just as when we're about to know more info, info get's lost again :X

Can't wait for the next episode!
Aug 9, 2016 9:58 PM
#7

Offline
Jun 2015
1205
One of Noir's signature traits, among its defining calling cards, is its episode previews.

With "Salva Nos" (literally the ultimate "shit's about to go down" song) playing in the background, the intensity is already at a fever pitch. What Noir does to increase this intensity is abruptly transition from one exceptionally dramatic still shot to another, not allowing the viewer's mind to process what just occurred.

The episode previews in Noir have always been excellent but the one for episode 17 rises far beyond the others.

There's betrayal.
There's loneliness.
There's enigmatic appearances from the shadows.
There's tears from someone who never sheds tears.

It's all done with an otherworldly desire to devour your heartstrings in one stroke.
This brilliant work of art is something you'll have to witness for yourself.
Jan 16, 2017 8:22 PM
#8

Offline
Jan 2016
1343
Kirika trying to consolate Mireille was such a nice thing to see :')
even though she actually decided not to
Aug 12, 2017 9:23 AM
#9
Nekogirl~

Offline
Mar 2014
3005
MostCuriousThing said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
----------------------------------------
So the true Noir is Chloe+Kirika, not Chloe+Altena. Hm.



sadly yes. And even if chloe has more of an killer instinct I just continue saying it: I dont like her a bit


Nov 14, 2017 9:15 AM

Offline
Aug 2015
507
Didn't expect to see so many questions answered in just one episode with how slow-paced this show is, but I'm happy with that. The scene at the end of the episode was excellent.
Dec 23, 2018 2:56 AM
The Shrike

Offline
Nov 2009
11665
Such a great episode. There's something about episode 17's in these older series, they always are used for making revelations or big plot advancements, LOL.

Like others here, I'm thinking maybe the price the Bouquet's would have to pay for being the main player in Corsica was that Mireille would have to become a Soldat. When they refused, they were brought down. But how did she become a Noir then? Interesting chapters coming up
"Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii

There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov

Jan 5, 2019 7:10 AM

Offline
Dec 2015
6485
Farabeuf said:
There's something about episode 17's in these older series, they always are used for making revelations or big plot advancements.

Really? I never noticed this in those full length series (only the mid-series turnabout/ big revelation). Do you happen to have other examples?


@PlayCool Thanks !
Rei_IIIMar 25, 2022 1:15 PM
Mar 24, 2022 4:40 PM
Supreme Tsundere

Offline
Nov 2012
4250
The plot thickens!
Surely Chloe was fond of Kirika, now we know why, but everything is far from making sense.
Hopefully things will be properly explained, but I m liking the direction the anime is going for.

Mireille wanted revenge on Soldats so bad, oh the irony...

Rei_III said:
Farabeuf said:
There's something about episode 17's in these older series, they always are used for making revelations or big plot advancements.

Really? I never noticed this in those full length series (only the mid-series turnabout/ big revelation). Do you happen to have other examples?

Smells like bullshit too me. He probably saw 1-3 like like that, coincidences, and is assuming that, I have seen my fair share, never noticed that pattern.

More topics from this board

» What kind of music is used in Noir?

LadyMal - Nov 15, 2020

9 by Nox--- »»
Jan 28, 8:18 AM

Poll: » Noir Episode 12 Discussion

ApolloFC - Mar 19, 2010

10 by Dreamon33 »»
Nov 23, 2024 7:13 AM

Poll: » Noir Episode 26 Discussion ( 1 2 )

Kucai82 - Apr 14, 2009

77 by perennial_suit »»
Aug 22, 2024 5:32 AM

Poll: » Noir Episode 6 Discussion

Ston3_FreeN7 - Apr 19, 2010

32 by KEGN »»
Jul 15, 2024 8:23 PM

Poll: » Noir Episode 25 Discussion

barelyalive - Sep 25, 2011

17 by Iron_Leopard »»
May 21, 2024 4:41 PM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
Sign Up Login