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May 16, 2014 11:53 AM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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May 18, 2014 3:18 AM
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omgggggg last pageeee

is she pregnant?!?!??! omgggg i can't read chinese ;-; gimme japanese scanssss
May 18, 2014 6:53 AM
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It's kinda obvious the baby is Aladdin.
May 19, 2014 8:21 PM
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>DRIVE OUT TRIBE
>DRIVE OUT TRIBE
>DRIVE OUT TRIBE

Looks like the chapter talks about the Spirit World a bit in relation to the physical world. Interesting stuff.
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omgggggg last pageeee

is she pregnant?!?!??!


Yes she is and the name will be revealed next chapter although it's kinda obvious.
May 19, 2014 8:54 PM
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So all the #TeamSheba members who saw this coming from a mile away... ahem myself ahem... will now accept all #TeamArba members' apologies. Black staff my ass. j/k

At least we're getting some solid progress recently so this arc has definitely improved quite a bit in my eyes. I'm interested to see in how everything plays out but we already kind of know the final game so that part of the surprise is taken away.

And who else thought that we would be getting a throwback chapter to the original cast after seeing that front cover? I got trolled quite hard.
May 19, 2014 9:37 PM
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Solomon kissing Sheeba was so cute x3

And damn is Ugo smart. It's also interesting that the soul takes the shape of a black rukh and not a white one.

:o She's pregnant!!

I thought Aladdin was his reincarnation? But if Sheeba's pregos then the only one I could think of being Solomon's son would be Aladdin. So he's not Solomon's reincarnation?? Or is he? Although the way Ugo raised Aladdin leads me to believe that he's actually Solomon's son and not just a reincarnation.
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So Solomon knocked up Sheba huh? Perhaps Sheba will lose the baby during the war prompting her to curse her fate and turn to the Black Rukh; which will then lead to her being reincarnated as Gyokuen.

Oh, and I'm 99.9% sure their baby will end up being Cassim.
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May 19, 2014 9:59 PM
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Uchihafan25 said:
So Solomon knocked up Sheba huh? Perhaps Sheba will lose the baby during the war prompting her to curse her fate and turn to the Black Rukh; which will then lead to her being reincarnated as Gyokuen.

Oh, and I'm 99.9% sure their baby will end up being Cassim.
The denial is strong with this one lol
May 19, 2014 10:18 PM
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And the child's name is... come one, could it be anymore obvious? who else could Aladdin have inherited those cute facial expressions from? And Solomon with Ugo in the flashback is also reminiscent of Ugo and Aladdin in the sacred palace.

And no, Sheba won't lose the baby; she appeared in the pirates arc with white rukhs surrounding her and Aladdin recognized her as his mother. I expect there will be a shocking revelation in store for Ithnan and co after they defeat David that might shatter their faith in Solomon. Add to that the possibility that Solomon might end up using white rukhs to get rid of the animosity between the species, I can see where this "Solomon's arrogance" is coming from.

And Masrur<3<3<3 This arc is in serious lack of manly biseinen eye candy like you and Kouen T_T
May 19, 2014 11:05 PM

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The denial is strong with this one lol


Indeed ! But there is still hope !
May 19, 2014 11:15 PM

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Wut, the black rukh is the original one..? Okashi na.. Wonder if Elder David got anything to do with this..
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Keep moving forward
May 19, 2014 11:26 PM

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So Sheba is pregnant. Yep definitely obvious who the baby is.
May 20, 2014 12:10 AM

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Yep Obviously Aladdin!!! yey!!! He is now slowly growing...

So Ugo named Rukh eh? and Al-Thamen is making their shitty plans, even if they aren't that organization yet. I think they are are missing command structure and so on.
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May 20, 2014 1:10 AM

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plot twist: baby is sinbad kappa
May 20, 2014 1:32 AM

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plot twist, the child is Gyokuen.
May 20, 2014 1:51 AM

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Arlia said:
plot twist, the child is Gyokuen.

That is possible... And Sheba died.. That's maybe why Arba was crying into Ugo's chest at the start of the flashback. And the creepy child is Sheba and Solomon's child..

That's a theory that has most likely been mentioned but I hope the child is Aladdin! :D
May 20, 2014 2:13 AM

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To tell the truth, I'm betting actually on twins. Gyokuen and Aladdin.
May 20, 2014 3:58 AM

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Anyone wanna bet that isnt Aladdin. To obvious guys, cmon.
May 20, 2014 4:36 AM
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The chances that the baby is actually Gyokuen are quite decent. Well if it is, then that will support that Aladdin is the reincarnation of Solomon. Furthermore, everyone in the Alma Toran has a mark on their forehead. Gyokuen doesn't have a crystal or mark on her forehead. So something might have went wrong with her during the time she is inside Sheba and making her an "outcast magician" (mark-less forehead). This will also support that Aladdin=Solomon since Aladdin is the sole magi and magician that has a crystal/mark on his forehead in the current world.

Well this is just a speculation. Nothing serious.
May 20, 2014 4:49 AM
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an of course the childs name is Alladin!!!! finally we are approachin to the end of this arc
May 20, 2014 6:55 AM
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I am seriously pissed off at this arc can they PLEEEEEAAAAAASE get back to the original storyline OOOOOMMMMMMGGGGGGGG
May 20, 2014 7:05 AM

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I wonder why I thought "Baby Judar" when I saw Tes
May 20, 2014 7:15 AM
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Actually, gyoukuen could have a chance the diredt translation from her name is shining jewel, or jewel of many colors.
So the chances of the child being Aladdin is very high in my opinion, but there is also an almost equal chance of the child being Gyoukuen.


but it does not seem to explain Aladdin's perveted nature, or love for boobs, or Gyoukuen's twisted personality, or how she got to the "alternate world" ( I believe that Alibaba has something to do with this arc)
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Plot twist...The child is obviously...Gyokuen XD I can really see that happening. It would be the best troll XD I like Arlia's idea of them being twins too ^^ Aladdin gotta come out sooner or later ^^;

Solomon looked so much like Aladdin when he was a kid :O

How he kissed Sheba and she melted was so cute :3

I just can't bring myself to imagine how awkward SolomonxSheba first sex was hahahaha. HILARIOUS XD Doujin fucking when >.< XD

It was cute how she was making a victory sign after saying she's pregnant <3

Also really interesting to know the black Rukh was what came first O_o?
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Maybe a bit off-topic, but according to Ohtaka's blog entry, vol. 223, when she submitted the drawings for Solomn for the first time, the first comment that came out of her editor was: "Hakuryuu?", which surprised Ohtaka, who thought Solomon looked nothing like Hakuryuu. However, as she imagined Hakuryuu as a grown-up, she saw his point and that Solomon's face looks like he's a member of the same family.

She then goes on how she's not very confident when drawing characters' faces. For example, she's more confident when drawing Judar's serious face than when he's laughing and she liked how Hakuryuu with his dialted eye looks turned out in volume 15.
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Mikan5 said:
Arlia said:
plot twist, the child is Gyokuen.

That is possible... And Sheba died.. That's maybe why Arba was crying into Ugo's chest at the start of the flashback. And the creepy child is Sheba and Solomon's child..
This so sound legit rather than Love Hate betrayal..

Aladin's first staf resembles Arba's wing staf, could it be Arba and Aladin are related to each other since Aladin never answer Alibaba when he asked whos that girl with Ugo..

May 20, 2014 12:28 PM
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It seems Solomon got to business with Sheba pretty soon.

I expect it to be Aladdin, but you never know with these Mangaka.
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May 20, 2014 2:09 PM

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The praying page was beautiful.

Praise God.
May 20, 2014 3:29 PM

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Anyone wanna bet that isnt Aladdin. To obvious guys, cmon.


Yeah. I would be surprised if the Shinobu actually revealed it was him.
May 20, 2014 7:17 PM

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100% sure it's Aladdin now. Knew it when she said she would slow down it's growth in her belly. Surely that would equate to the child being a runt, and so we have our booby loving runt.

Speaking of, the traitor magi was quite the runt, which takes me back to my theory from a few chapters ago. Hard to believe Aladdin in any world would be taken in by Al-Thamen, but if Solomon caused the death of his beloved mother maybe it could happen.

So that leaves Gyokuen. I'm still betting she's Arba. She said she was of a long line of children created by the higher ups of an elder council in the orthodox. With Ugo discovering the rukh black, we naturally assume David and the orthodox is behind the origin of black rukh. This could explain Arba's black appearance in ch 223, as her creation certainly had something to do with black rukh. I think what Ugo mentioned about creating a path for the soul with rukh is exactly what David has been doing, which sets the guidelines for Arba's will.

The reason I think she must be Gyokuen is the same. In the new world which David made the default rukh white, Gyokuen is obsessively attached to "Father" by way of black rukh/her affiliation with Al-Thamen. She is the only one in the old world that has been emphasized to have had such a direct relation to the black rukh.

This makes it seem all the more likely that Arba and the others have to betray Solomon because he is relying too heavily on Ugo's newly discovered white rukh, probably due to Sheba's influence. Arba especially doesn't want to betray Solomon, which is why she worked so hard to provide a balancing system with Sheba. But at a certain point it'll probably become clear his balance will shift in favor of the white rukh, and at that point the black rukh creating the path for her soul leaves Arba and the others no choice but to betray him.
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I still think Gyokuen is Arba, simply because in ch 223, Sheba took the supporting role in Solomon's kingdom, while as Arba took the disciplining role. So far, Sheba has taken Solomon's side, even when everyone was against him; and her faith in him is unshakable. Her going against Solomon will go against what her promise to Arba is all about.

On the other hand, if Solomon ended up using white rukhs to brainwash the species into making peace with one another, it will go against what the liberation movement is all about, so I can see Arba stepping in and trying to dissuade him. If Solomon doesn't listen to her, she'll rebel against him, after all, that's what's her promise to Sheba is all about. Another thing is, it's possible that Arba still has some remaining loyalty to David, and call me a crazy shipper, but ch 222 also has her blushing when Solomon talked about not being like his father, and since it was revealed that Arba's feelings for Solomon are platonic, it could be that the one she has feelings for is David. If David is gone, she probably won't take it easily, and the white rukhs plan might be the last straw that will cause her to go against Solomon.

Anyway, we won't find out the identity of the baby until after the battle with David, so it could be early June or something.
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What you guys think who is their child? I mean like, Aladdin and Solomon at the same age they're identical, I can't imagine anyone else but Aladdin to be their child.

Though, I wasn't expecting them having a baby already, WOW... Great chapter, many things explained as always.
This is getting even more interesting! *_*
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What you guys think who is their child? I mean like, Aladdin and Solomon at the same age they're identical, I can't imagine anyone else but Aladdin to be their child.

Though, I wasn't expecting them having a baby already, WOW... Great chapter, many things explained as always.
This is getting even more interesting! *_*

It's pretty safe to assume the child is Aladdin. There are so many hints, starting from Solomon's appearance when he was younger. Also, "The child's name is obviously..!!" wouldn't make any sense if the author weren't referring to Aladdin.

I only hope Gyokuen isn't Sheba. Anyone but her...
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May 21, 2014 8:33 AM

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Am I the only one who thinks them still praying is extremely weird?
Didnt ugo already have the theory that "god" is just energy. And Solomon got mad to even think that that is a possibility. How can they still rely on faith even now? Atleast Ugo who came up with the theory should have doubts...
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bigzzcobzz said:
What you guys think who is their child? I mean like, Aladdin and Solomon at the same age they're identical, I can't imagine anyone else but Aladdin to be their child.

Though, I wasn't expecting them having a baby already, WOW... Great chapter, many things explained as always.
This is getting even more interesting! *_*

It's pretty safe to assume the child is Aladdin. There are so many hints, starting from Solomon's appearance when he was younger. Also, "The child's name is obviously..!!" wouldn't make any sense if the author weren't referring to Aladdin.

I only hope Gyokuen isn't Sheba. Anyone but her...


I've been hoping for the same thing ever since people started speculating that she was Gyokuen. I've really come to love her character, and I'd be incredibly disappointed if she does indeed turn out to be Gyokuen.

As for the identity of the baby, I'll keep my expectations in check so that I'm ready accept whoever it turns out to be. Saving myself from any disappointment in the process.
Matsuoka Yoshitsugu has hardly any range as a voice actor, and is grossly over-cast.

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Anyone wanna bet that isnt Aladdin. To obvious guys, cmon.

I can only see it being Sinbad or Aladdin.
May 22, 2014 3:36 PM

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I can't see Sinbad actually being birthed in both both worlds..
May 23, 2014 12:30 AM

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No, it can't be Sinbad. Read the spin off manga for his back story.
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AWESOME CHAPTER
May 24, 2014 8:33 AM
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Arlia said:
plot twist, the child is Gyokuen.

That is possible... And Sheba died.. That's maybe why Arba was crying into Ugo's chest at the start of the flashback. And the creepy child is Sheba and Solomon's child..

That's a theory that has most likely been mentioned but I hope the child is Aladdin! :D

Wow...imagine if that happens .....
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plot twist, the child is Gyokuen.


That's the theory i made a few chapters ago. Wonder if it end's being truth. Jumping to next chapter right away.
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This chapter was freaking awesome.
Sheba melting after that kiss so cute and Solomon actually got her pregnant :O
Pretty obvious who the child is ^^
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Am I the only one who thinks them still praying is extremely weird?
Didnt ugo already have the theory that "god" is just energy. And Solomon got mad to even think that that is a possibility. How can they still rely on faith even now? Atleast Ugo who came up with the theory should have doubts...
@confused_Imakuni There is nothing weird. It was Solomon who made that theory a few chapters ago and they decided not to spread Solomon's theory because it could destroy the foundation of people's beliefs. You can see Solomon was the only one who didn't pray

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