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Feb 19, 2014 6:32 PM
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I usually hate threads like this and i apologize for making this i just feel compelled to for some reason, but i feel like this is really why this series comes off so terrible. For most shows with absurd premises that pull in very serious drama for example gurren laggan would at least acknowledge its stupidity and its self awareness of its absurdity allows the show to take it to different places even in the more dramatic tones.

With this though, its taking itself very seriously pretty much from the get go, it has some less serious moments but they are never in self awareness of itself but rather just some terrible sex jokes contained in its world. The fact that the show feels so disconnected on how utterly moronic the premise as well as how plot points are progressing makes the series feel surreal in the bad way. Self awarness can go a long way to help a show and this series has 0

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Feb 19, 2014 6:42 PM
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I somewhat agree with your statement. I honestly felt zero interest on episode one because I don't know what to expect or what to like since the lore is way too garbled and the number of cross-referencing of famous personalities is too damn high.

The only thing that actually reached me is when Nobunaga's cried at the waterfalls.
Feb 19, 2014 7:32 PM
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mbdsquad said:

The only thing that actually reached me is when Nobunaga's cried at the waterfalls.
I thought episode 6 was actually quite good mainly cause it was a bit more surprising and risk taking but also focused less on its moronic mech fights and odd mythos of technology and magic. I think ep 6 shows some honest to god potential but because of how the series has handled itself so far i think it'll mainly be wasted

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Feb 20, 2014 1:41 PM
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Ugh. I'm SO tired of everything being self-aware. It's very half-assed and non-committal. Like, "Yeah we know you think it's kinda stupid...but we think its stupid too, so its okay right?" Fuck that. If I think it's stupid, then its your job to sell me on it. But if you think it's stupid then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. If you don't believe in your project, why should I?

No, this series is just the right amount of insanity for me. I love it.
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Mar 10, 2014 5:03 PM
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I think its one of the best series for this season,its just a very good shounen.
Mar 10, 2014 5:31 PM
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FrozenRemains said:
I think its one of the best series for this season,its just a very good shounen.
i would just have to agree to disagree, this is one of the worst written shows ive seen since guilty crown and im simply astonished at how much goes wrong, but more power to you if you think otherwise

hey at least better than pupa

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Mar 11, 2014 3:21 PM
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Werent you praising the series for the exact reasons you stated in your post?
Mar 11, 2014 3:28 PM
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My biggest problem is the main character's voice.
Mar 11, 2014 3:30 PM
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Nope said:
Werent you praising the series for the exact reasons you stated in your post?
No, ive been ragging on how bad this show is from episode 1 and its only gotten worse with the exception of ep 6 which they wasted, i may have said it was entertaining trainwreck but that still involves a trainwreck. I think its the worst (20 min )show ive seen in a while and its only continuing to degrade more and more.

I generally loved it until it started showing moments where it could had gotten actually good, then seeing it squander that entirely only takes away that enjoyment factor.

IntroverTurtle said:
My biggest problem is the main character's voice.
Definitely, its really out of place especially when he tries to sound badass yet ends up sounding like a slow barney. like that part where he screams in episode 6 is so unintentionally funny even if i think the only legitimately good scene in the series came after that

its like sugita was supposed to play nobunaga and miyano was meant to play davinci yet someone fucked up when sending the cast sheet to the director and switched the roles
JizzyHitlerMar 11, 2014 3:33 PM

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Mar 11, 2014 3:45 PM

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JizzyHitler said:
IntroverTurtle said:
My biggest problem is the main character's voice.
Definitely, its really out of place especially when he tries to sound badass yet ends up sounding like a slow barney. like that part where he screams in episode 6 is so unintentionally funny even if i think the only legitimately good scene in the series came after that

its like sugita was supposed to play nobunaga and miyano was meant to play davinci yet someone fucked up when sending the cast sheet to the director and switched the roles
I agree, I can't take him seriously at all. He sounds more like a teenager than the head of a clan.
Mar 11, 2014 9:42 PM

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This guy.....
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

I'm really, really enjoying this show. I like how events have unfolded so far. I also just don't understand why people force themselves to watch a show they don't enjoy. Honestly, what do you achieve by doing that?

People....
Mar 12, 2014 6:11 AM

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Seriousti said:

I'm really, really enjoying this show. I like how events have unfolded so far. I also just don't understand why people force themselves to watch a show they don't enjoy. Honestly, what do you achieve by doing that?
this is such a poor argument for anything, you cannot judge a show until you watch it in its entirety and you never know for sure what will happen as it goes on, ive seen bad shows become good and great shows turn into abominations, you must finish the whole thing or else you have no right to judge it as a whole

and like i said, This series is entertaining because of how bad it is, im not giving that up

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Mar 12, 2014 6:57 PM

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SageShinigami said:
Ugh. I'm SO tired of everything being self-aware. It's very half-assed and non-committal. Like, "Yeah we know you think it's kinda stupid...but we think its stupid too, so its okay right?" Fuck that. If I think it's stupid, then its your job to sell me on it. But if you think it's stupid then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. If you don't believe in your project, why should I?

No, this series is just the right amount of insanity for me. I love it.

I agree with this.


I also think it just keeps getting better with each episode, but thats typical for a Kawamori series(i.e Macross, Macross F, Basquash!). I have very high hopes for the last episode.

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Mar 13, 2014 6:39 AM

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I'm enjoying this because it has decent looking women, decent characters, decent villains (like Caesar). It also has a lot of unpredictable things

It is not a great anime, but it is good and I'm enjoying it.

Also, according to your list you gave kill la kill, code geass, another and death note a low score. For me these are one of the best animes I've seen. Maybe every one have different taste
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Mar 17, 2014 12:02 PM
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JizzyHitler, I absolutely disagree with you on this show.

I love it, I think its got great characters and setting and I think it is going to have an absolutely epic ending. Especially when the whole order of the round table start to get involved.

Although I vehemently dispute you opinion on this show, I still cannot hate you as you list Rahxephon as one of your favs, which is my favorite anime of all time so.
Mar 18, 2014 11:38 PM

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This is an amazing anime if you know the true history. The metaphors and characters as far fetched as they are still have the same personalities as their historic counterparts and objectives.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oda_Nobunaga read this!!!

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