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Aporie said: After looking at the hints in episode 4 and 5 it seems to me that the "crazy bird plan" could be something like "make everyone dependant on galax" then shut it off. The crazy bird in episode 4 created an accident, at the end of the episode people are saying "we can only count on galax". I think what FLAREKNIGHT said on the previous page goes in the same way. If they depend on Galax ... The best for the crazy bird (pai pai says that the thing he likes the most is to not drity his own hands but to manipulate people) would be to take advantage of Rui's ideology , raise the trust/confidence in Galax by creating accidents and making the CROWDS conceal the weaknesses of galax ( like when the crowds supported the cable car). When the trust is at it's climax and people stopped relying on police etc... (also happenend in the epsiode 4 when hajime talked with her friends and the fireman) GALAX breakdown in a way or another then chaos. This series give hints by packs on the general plot and give a few hints every episode about the characters. In this story it's Berg Katze ( crazy bird) the freaking genius. Kind of sorry I missed this post in the first place. I do think it's a pretty reasonable hypothesis. Slowly but surely the trust and reliance on galax is increasing. The more people rely on that the less they rely on the traditional sources of assistance. Everyone being a hero is nice, but when people are alone what can galax do? What if they run into an area without a connection? This system isn't making everyone a hero, it's making everyone more reliant. Galax can do amazing things, galax can solve all their problems. That breaks down or people find out a handful have gotten Crowds powers and it could all fall apart. I think another way things could go very wrong would be the almost cult obsession with galax creating a very bloody revolution. The existence of X and Rui are critical. If someone else hijacks that system they could convince galax users to do horrible things and the world would go up in flames during the crisis. Rui was given those powers, they could very well be taken away. A system that powerful requires practical saint to keep things clean. Someone with darker ideals could use it in a horrifying way. Berg is definitely a skilled manipulator. Not hard to see how this person has managed to cause many planets to self-destruct. |
| joe's getting on my nerves lol i dont really see why everyone's getting their panties in a twist over him :T he's only eager to take berg katze down bc he wants the credit all for himself. i don't think he's even capable of working in a team tbqh & i def wouldn't be sad to see him go (shrug) anyway OST WHEN???????? :((( |
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| The biggest thing when figuring out what Berg is up to is considering that he knows full well about Gatchamen. I wouldn't be surprised if he had them as part of the plan in turning the whole planet into a disaster zone. Galax vs. The Old System, Crowds vs. Gatchaman. Must be some reason he only deflected Jou instead of killing him. Could have easily taken out Hajime and Sugane when they were dealing with MESS in the first episode. Though do agree the most danger is when all sides are fighting for what they believe is the right thing. Strong ideals can force both sides to go to extremes because they feel it's all riding on them. As to Zeppelis's Jou criticisms I don't agree with much of it. He obviously willing to have Sugane get involved because he's all about the solo credit right? There's obviously no way he cares about the people this guy is killing either right? Who would he be getting credit from anyways? They are a secret organization! Jou has been a Gatchaman for quite a while as he was the one who inspired Sugane. The problem is what team can he work in right now? Hajime is by far the least of a team player here. Just does whatever long as she feels the logic works for her. Paimon is vaguely telling them to not get involved and along with OD is keeping secrets. May very likely be the wrong move to be making, but someone does have to stop this guy. |
| Ok sometimes I don't get the show but this episode gave some answers ^^ I really enjoy watching Hajime and her carefree character. It was also too sweet to see Utsutsu dressed up with all the ribbons. A really nice Episode, my favorite one so far ^-^ |
| Anyone knows whats the real meaning of utsutsu words or name? I tried to looked it up on google, since I don't have knowledge of moon writings I reverse the romanji Utsutsu into 現つ. Apparently it means 'Reality, consciousness'. Unlike the context used by subs as 'Dreamy'. Few quotes from the book Modern Japanese Aesthetics: A reader by Michelle Mara, Page 240 Utsutsu is the reflection (utsuri) of a movement (utsuri) of appearances (utsushi), a drama played by the mythological deities of the Kojiki in their struggle to bring 'reality' into being. According to dictionary's gloss - explanation number three - the word indicates "a dreamlike state of mind (yumegokochi) as a result of a tendency since the age of the Kokinshu not to know whether one is dreaming or was awake, as attested in the expressions 'Dream/Reality' (yumeutsutsu) and 'dream or reality?' (yume ka utsutsu ka)" Apparently the meaning is slightly different than a simply 'dreamy' or 'reality' as it has a deep root in the Buddhism and Shintoism concept of consciousness in dream vs reality. Just like how Utsutsu could clones herself but only has one 'real' Utsutsu (like in previous episodes) and the concept between life and death and the three planes of beings, where 'utsutsu' is being in the middle of existence. This would explain much of her hazy behavior and her abilities, and of course, her name. |
| The most important things in life is the people that you care about |
| Another average episode. I want to see more action |
thepathAug 18, 2013 8:40 AM
| Tachibana betrayal flag, you saw it first here. |
| 日本人はイッちゃってるよ あいつら未来に生きてんな |
1idd0kun said: azzuRe said: Anyone knows whats the real meaning of utsutsu words or name? I tried to looked it up on google, since I don't have knowledge of moon writings I reverse the romanji Utsutsu into 現つ. Apparently it means 'Reality, consciousness'. Unlike the context used by subs as 'Dreamy'. Sorry but Utsutsu's catch phrase isn't "utsutsu shimasu" but "utsuutsu shimasu" (note the extra "u" in "utsuu...") I know because it's stated in the character description in the series' website: http://www.ntv.co.jp/GATCHAMAN_Crowds/character/utsutsu.html 他のGメンバーに対しても「うつうつします…」位しか言わない。 うつうつ (utsuutsu) = gloomy; melancholy; pessimistic Basically, her catch phrase is "I'm gloomy". Crunchyroll screwed up because they mistook the word. They thought it was "utsutsu" like her name, but that's not it. I don't know why they didn't even check the serie's website. I see, so there are some mistaken word too. Still its the right word for her name うつ·つ which could also written as 現つ. Isn't it? I was thinking that she was saying utsutsu-shimasu because of Hajime's habit of saying Hajime-ssu. lol. |
azzuReAug 18, 2013 10:33 AM
| The most important things in life is the people that you care about |
| This show keeps getting better and better. I love it and cant wait for the next episode. |
| The animation seemed to be lacking this week, but I guess they had to cut corners in that running "montage." I also absolutely love the OST for this show, but I guess it's not for everyone since it's all electronic. |
| Preview for the OST: https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/gatchaman-kurauzu-orijinaru/id688040651 |
KoybzAug 18, 2013 6:46 PM
| Hajime's brilliance shone through a lot more this episode. ^^ Nice to see. |
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| Good episode. Really liking Hajime. |
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| Hajime makes my ears bleed. She is one of the most annoying characters i've ever seen. |
| Lovin this show! |
| I cant say anymore.. utsutsu is really cute in this episode.. I think "who the hell is this girl XD" LOL and that moment when X leading hajime to the place :3 awesome episode.. :3 |
iRock707 said: Hajime as a main protagonist seems too 'convenient.' Actually she's carrying the anime. |
| 日本人はイッちゃってるよ あいつら未来に生きてんな |
| Hajime was really scary and intimidating when she was having a conversation with Rui.. It gives me chills...   She could see through all your lies and secret. |
milloAug 19, 2013 7:42 AM
| Utsu-tsu's Gatchaman Suit: Looks pretty awesome. Hopefully this means that we'll get to see it next episode. |
| a nice episode , looking forward for the next one .. ..,, |
| -CnXaDi. |
| The action of getting people to do things to help Hajime reflects the writers' attempt to depict the system's principle of anonymous people helping those in need and also the important concept of gamification which is all the vogue now. This is a show that clearly taps on the recent societal trends and incorporate them into the story and world setting, while still trying to keep a balance with the old style sentai view point and approach. It is not sweepingly condemn the old approach but gives Hajime's approach as a refreshing alternative take on a world that may have changed and now presents a different kind of challenges. And again we have Hajime who seems to be absent-minded but when the guy tries to remind her it turns out that she has thought about the matter after all. It the case with the speeding lorry earlier and this is the same for her revelation of gatchaman identity and her seeing through Rui himself and his intentions. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| The official lyrics to the Gatchaman Crowds OP: I'm sorry but is this really meant to pass of as English? Either way it's hilarious and I still love the OP just as much as I did before. |
| Okay Hajime is starting to get scary with all that she knows and realizes...this is getting more and more interesting. |
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The official lyrics to the Gatchaman Crowds OP: fly amaze it crore vavry rough spin up and know feel in brender lonely estrad and me under graven me on the starnet write the mean destroy baby rat stay up and no fear into end aloud these sir prize on me unders heavenly on the clone it the world your word is . 2deep4me |
VioLink said: Rui using GALAX to help Hajime/Utsutsuu to escape reminded me of that scene in Durarara. Same to me. Also:  Made my day. Every episode with Hajime is party hard. |
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| I liked that confrontation at the end. Their difference in opinion was quite interesting. |
| 00:53 lol@mistranslation... tasuketai means wanna save them, not save them. 04:34 nice decision 14:39 OHOHOHO Utsutsushimasu. |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| wow, so why am i just realizing that load kun was aboy. *face palm* |
| Ughh why did I just realise now that Rui is a Male... when he changed to his other clothes i finally realised *SLOW* TT__TT |
| Indeed she sure is an amazing girl! Quite lovely development and I really can't get enough of her lovely attitude! Lets see what's next! |
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| Oh, Hajime really screw this one Aya Hirano's voice is so... cute!! So, is it PaiPai or Konata's chara voice? xD It's pretty obvious that Rui is a boy (besides from his name) Utsutsu, she's so cute!!! Especially her VA... oh wait Am I doing it wrong? xD |
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| Rui is interesting, hajime is intersting. everything is so damn good |
45Ravager said: Hajime is a genius, everything that she does has a valid reason to it, and she notices a lot of stuff better than most people, I really do respect her for that. The only thing is I wish she could explain the reasoning behind she does some things; When she revealed her face to Rui, and Sugane asked why she did it, I wonder what she meant when she said that she needed to do that. Also, I wonder if Hajime knows that Rui is in a disguise, that comment about the makeup seems to hint at that. this |
FlareKnight said: Rui does have a point but ignores the flaws in his own system. People may stop relying on heroes to save them, but they are just transferring that reliance to Galax to tell them what to do. Can update the world or whatever but if you turn Galax off suddenly people will go right back to doing what they did before. A system that can be abused for good or bad is hardly an ideal world to be aiming for. No everyone is perfect like Hajime; able to use the system without being controlled by it. Oddly enough this episode is kind of where I'm getting slightly tired of Hajime's perfection. Every decision is perfect, with logical reasoning and never goes wrong. Reveals herself...just because she needed to do it right then. Far more interested in Jou hunting down Berg than Hajime seeing through everything perfectly. At least can hope Jou actually finds this guy and this series with heroes can actually have a fight or two in it. Exactly. You pinpointed my biggest problem with her; she's too perfect. Too happy go lucky, pretty moe and 'I know everything and all my decisions are correct and judgements are sound', which is usually the type of character that bothers me the most especially when they're not well balanced. A lot of people in the forum did however point out that's she's smart sure but she's not some omniscient being who's infallible. Yet the lack of ANY kind of context, reasoning or back story to her actions makes her perfect attitude very suffocating. See, I don't hate her and she doesn't annoy me as much as she could. But for a main character I could care less about her. Rui interests me INFINITELY more, cross dressing and all. Rui's got the right idea but relies too heavily on his idealism and doesn't see the bigger picture, cause he puts too much faith in human altruism. I get that Hajime believes that Gatchaman are needed to protect people and she did mention that 'you can't always trust the internet blindly' (yet another perfect bit of foreshadowing from her...) but it's also kinda bs since to this episode she's pretty much done NOTHING Gatchaman-like at all. I dunno, everyone on the forums seems to love her unconditionally and that's fine. But hey, don't expect me to drink the kool aid :p |
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| Rui's reasoning is sound and would bring us all close to an utopian society. Unfortunately he's forgotten to take into account greed, ambition, lust, envy and all other emotions that drive humans too. It's not altruism. Hajime's got a kind of primordial wisdom that makes me wonder if there's more to her than meets the eye. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
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