| For those who have been reading this series. I have merged all of them into one entry. Please adjust accordingly. |
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| ... why? The novels are completely separate entities that SHOULD be rated and discussed separately. Can we expect that all of the anime shows that have years between separate seasons to be merged into a single entry? |
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| no. that is a completely different matter. In this case, there were many reasons why they were merged. Among them, it was to keep the manga db consistant. Just because it is not numbered doesn't mean it should be seperated. Otherwise, we would have 50+ entries of various light novels instead of just 4 or 5. Sure, each book has a "different story" but it is still central and moves along a timeline. No different than any other manga series that goes from arc to arc. Furthermore in FMP's case, it is also serialized just like any other manga. There is nothing stopping you from discussing them seperately either. That's what the forums are for. And you can use them to let others know what you would rate it. It just won't be statistically calculated. Understand that I'm doing this to keep the db less cluttered. I get what you are saying but please just leave it at that and accept it. |
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Faust721 said: no. that is a completely different matter. In this case, there are many reasons why they were merged. Among them, it was to keep the manga db consistant. Just because it is not numbered doesn't mean it should be seperated. Otherwise, we would have 50+ entries of various light novels instead of just 4 or 5. Sure, each book has a "different story" but it is still central and moves along a timeline. No different than any other manga series that goes from arc to arc. Furthermore in FMP's case, it is also serialized just like any other manga. There is nothing stopping you from discussing them seperately either. That's what the forums are for. And you can use them to let others know what you would rate it. It just won't be statistically calculated. Understand that I'm doing this to keep the db less cluttered. I get what you are saying but please just leave it at that and accept it. Yes. this a double standard. In the case of anime seasons, there were many reasons why they should be merged. Among them, it could to keep the anime db consistent with contiguous OVA series that have long waits in between new episodes. Just because the seasons have different numbers behind them doesn't mean it should be separated. Otherwise, we would have 2-3 entries of various anime series instead of just 1. Sure, each season has a "different story" but it is still central and moves along a timeline. No different than any other novel or manga series that goes from arc to arc. Furthermore in Code Geass' case, both seasons are animated, written, and directed by the same studio and director like many other anime series that have been broken into multiple seasons. There is nothing stopping you from discussing them separately either. That's what the forums are for. And you can use them to let others know what you would rate it. It just won't be statistically calculated. Understand that I'm hoping you do this to keep the db less cluttered. I know you don't get what I am saying, but please take this suggestion to heart and put it into application. |
8GaugeBrettOct 17, 2008 9:41 AM
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| jeez, i just knew you were gonna say something like that the moment i hit post message. yes it is a double standard. and i know what i'm saying is hypocritical but the anime and manga db are just approached differently. Thats just how it is. Look i'll talk to the big man and see what he thinks about this. |
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Faust721 said: jeez, i just knew you were gonna say something like that the moment i hit post message. yes it is a double standard. and i know what i'm saying is hypocritical but the anime and manga db are just approached differently. Thats just how it is. Look i'll talk to the big man and see what he thinks about this. Well hopefully we can get some kind of consolidation of standards between the two databases =). Good luck in presenting this issue to Xinil, I hope for a positive outcome from the discussion. |
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Faust721 said: jeez, i just knew you were gonna say something like that the moment i hit post message. yes it is a double standard. and i know what i'm saying is hypocritical but the anime and manga db are just approached differently. Thats just how it is. Look i'll talk to the big man and see what he thinks about this. That explains having American and other country's manga but your constant Avatar is not anime stance. Anyway what defines as a volume, one novel? |
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| So did you ever bring this issue up to xinil or should I just go ahead and make a thread about this on the suggestions forum? |
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| i talked a little bit with Xinil. I'll have him give his thoughts. |
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| I think this was a good decision Faust. My list looks cleaner, and also I don't need to go on Wikipedia each time to remind myself each time which was novel 1, which was 2, etc. |
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| I think this was a bad decision because the novels are so different from one another in both genre and story and sure you can argue that this follows one timeline and it makes the manga db less cluttered but now I'm having a hard time knowing what overall chapter I was upto and can't add it to my list. And another thing, I reviewed the individual novels and it just makes the effort I put into them seem worthless (-_-)... |
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| I just noticed this change and i'm also pretty unhappy with it :| to me it actually seems easier to follow based on seperate entries instead of one combined entry. What if you read the novels out of order? And now theres no way to tell how many novels are out, what their names are, or anything without reffering to a different website like wikipedia. You just deleted tons of useful information from the MAL Db by combining them into one entry.... and wouldn't you want the DB to be more useful and informative rather than the other way around? |
| I've just started reading, and I find this to be a hindrance. Is the first novel five chapters, or seven? It only has five 'chapters', but it also has a prologue and epilogue. It also means I don't have all the information I need in one place, which is the function of a database, surely? With this system, I have to go to other websites. |
| Your search on "Oran Solus" returned the following quotes: "Oran Solus? I know him. What a wanker. He still owes me a tenner." Oscar Wilde "Oran, you're so intelligent and awesome <3" Bakayaro "Oran's sexy." LolitaDecay "Oran is a sophisticated penguin." Drybananna "Oran is a Hand-Eye you faggots." EddieSpaghetti "Oran for Prime Minister." the_prime_one "Oran is all that is stated in his sig and more." orbitzz |
| Thats exactly how I feel, Oran. Since each book has its own chapters, I have no idea what I'm supposed to put for chapters. Do I just keep increasing the volume numbers and restarting the chapter numbers? Wont that mess up the "days read" count? |
| I think that each novel as a title should have its own listing. Take LotR. Its composed of many books +each books separate appendixes, but they are mostly referred to as the fellowship, two towers and TRotK, and as a whole- LOTR. There arent sold as "fellowship of the ring book 1,2, etc" Its same for other books as well.... though most ppl should know lord of the rings lol. When i read other books i check them of based on the actual book, continuity is irrelevent. Some books are published with a cliffhanger ending to get you to buy the next book, that doenst mean they are the same book lol. and so..... Because it IS a novel and NOT a manga, then the overall title of a group of chapters should be used, as chapters and volumes tend to get confusing (after all books dont always have the same number of chapters, volumes, pages etc.). For instance..... i keep track of which chapter/page i'm on via pdfx. When I finish said book, I mark it of and go to the next. Novels should be treated different than anime and manga, as they are a separate form of media. After all.... manga and anime dont have titles directly pointing to a specific group of eps/chp., also the "gap" in publishing isnt there with anime and mangal-although there are exceptions-like it is with "individual books".... or at least the typical american's view of "book". I understand that in japan "light novels" can at times be published by volume or chapter, but the fact remains that each volume and chapter falls, eventually, into a book with a beginning, middle, ending and a title expressing content wherein. my two cents anyway.... [/rant] ahha |
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