Eureka Seven AO Episode 13 Discussion

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This is some awesome shit. So the secrets are protecting the growth of scub coral. So technically the scub has awoken. It was 10,000 years which Dewey Novak described how the scub was spreading. Norb discussed how the scub is learning to adapt and eventually wants to coexist with the Earth. When Eureka returned the second time 13 years in the past, she wanted to protect this world. So helping out remove the quartz would stop the growth of the scub. Making a tough choice by saving the people and leaving Ao was probably something she needed to do.

Truth knows much about the Scub Coral. I think Truth is the first Coralian in Ao's Timeline. But he was able to connect within the scub coral 10,000 years in the future and somehow manage to get Eureka. In episode 50 in the first series, Gonzy said that the other half of the scub coral is going to another "planet".. Is that the other Earth? (10,000 years ago?) So for the Scub Coral to have travelled into the past or even sucked into a wormhole which brought it there. It would have to make sense since you have a being such as Truth, explain that the world everyone is living in is wrong.. Truth is probably confused himself. It's just all ironic that everything is as it is. One big damn loophole.

What i thought was really neat is how looking at the date of gekko-state to the date of the current earth. Which means, how soon does the scub engulf the earth? How soon until the Novak family will transport all the people out of the planet?

If the nirvash that Ao is piloting was Renton's Nirvash, that he built (Eureka mentions). why didnt Eureka and Renton come back to get Ao on their Nirvash? Maybe Eureka has been watching Ao this whole time through the Scub.

Jul 13, 2012 5:07 AM

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i see that no one pick up one thing that Eureka said that has me wondering. At the scene when it was Eureka and Hannah, Hannah asked "Are you starting to worry about the Child now ? Shouldn't you just focus on how to overcome the difficulties ? Am I right?" and Eureka said "But the Doctor said that inside areas with high trapar concentration the child of a human and coralian would be...." and she got cut off by the commotion between Ao and Gazelle outside the room. I think its something important about Ao that will cause a problem in a few episodes later. And also How Does Truth Know What Eureka Looked Like From the Past ?? he looked like Eureka from E7 with the old clothes except WITHOUT the clip for her hair, i think that could possibly mean something cause she always had it on except for a few parts in E7 or i could be wrong

Jul 13, 2012 5:08 AM

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Shit just got real.....

Awesome Episode.... So the current earth is not a different world from E7 but 10000years ago version of the earth..... Most questions are answered... but new questions appeared.... A solid episode... Best yet...

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Jul 13, 2012 5:48 AM

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Great episode! Was worth the wait,but does anyone else think 10 000 is a bit much? For the series in general, and there doesnt seem to be much technological advancements between Eurekas timeline and Ao's,i mean 10 000 years is a very VERY long time.

Jul 13, 2012 5:53 AM

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I'm rewatching the episode.. The Secret 13 years ago, who was stopping Eureka from getting the Quartz could be Truth...... The way he knows how Eureka looks and the Nirvash. I'm still thinking the Scub came from the future, which allowed truth to get her again.

Jul 13, 2012 5:59 AM

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Re watched the ep. I actually got a little teary eyed when Ao was telling ghost Eureka he didn't want to let her go and that he was looking for her all this time. T_T

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Jul 13, 2012 6:02 AM

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Eureka Seven AO Episode 1 Discussion Page 4.

AidanAK47 said:
Let me get this straight Eureka Seven Ao. Renton and Eureka somehow either travelled in time or travelled to earth as they are still naming things China and Japan.

To all those that told me this was stupid, suck it bitches.

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I F*CKING TOLD YOU ALL.

No you didn't. I told them and you said I was wrong.

Now I am just hoping they don't pull a twist involving Eureka's soul getting transferred to Naru...cause that would suck.

"I always take life with a grain of salt, ...plus a slice of lemon, ...and a shot of tequila."

Jul 13, 2012 6:02 AM

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What a fantastic episode. Definitely the best one yet!

I absolutely loved that Renton was finally mentioned. The moments between AO and Eureka were brilliant. So much is starting to make sense, even though the episode set up even more questions. I can't wait until Renton eventually appears.

E7 AO has certainly increased in quality over the last several episodes. This will easily be one of my favorites of the year if the last stretch of episodes continue to impress.

Jul 13, 2012 6:08 AM

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Corona01 said:
Great episode! Was worth the wait,but does anyone else think 10 000 is a bit much? For the series in general, and there doesnt seem to be much technological advancements between Eurekas timeline and Ao's,i mean 10 000 years is a very VERY long time.

If you recall on the original Eureka 7, they mentioned that when the scub coral shaped over the planet the humans left, and it made the scub coral really sad and so it went into hibernation so that way the humans wouldn't feel threatened by them anymore, and some time later the humans went back to Earth =P. Given they were refugees in space for quite a long time, it wouldn't be surprising to see technology not advance.

Jul 13, 2012 6:16 AM

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on the review for next week, it looks like Eureka could activate the seven swells.. OH SHIT.. SUMMER OF LOVE.. haha

I'm wondering why Eureka didnt come back for Ao?? Maybe she didnt want to effect the history that was to occur, and with the world fighting for power, she would probably be used or even hated by the people. This second season is going to be awesome! The music is getting awesome as well. too amazing

Jul 13, 2012 6:17 AM

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I will say however that I'm a tad disappointed that this Eureka is the past Eureka.

Also, Eureka said the secrets aren't the enemy....Buuuut why was it completely crushing the island in the first episodes?

Jul 13, 2012 6:31 AM

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Ahri said:

I completely agreed. Generation Bleu's technology was pretty much the only advancement that lasted them for 10,000 years. Thinking about it though. For 10,000 years in space. 2,000 years back in the Earth. 4th year when Renton and Eureka met. 5th year End of war... Eureka Preggo??? 6 months later, back in past.. goes back ~10,000+ years, back 3 months later and gives birth to AO. for 2 years she returns. 11 years repeat...

teenage pregnancy... Actually idk if the timelines were right >:P

Jul 13, 2012 6:36 AM

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Ahri said:

Great point! Though there are so many factors that literaly dont make sense. How do the last humans survive for so long in space? They couldnt have had gravity thingies =P without it human muscles would weaken, and the overall factor, water and food? Without soil you cannot grow anything. Limited supplies in space = death. Unless humans where also in some sort of hibernation for 5000+ years.

Jul 13, 2012 6:41 AM

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cant wait for next weeks episode

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Jul 13, 2012 6:52 AM

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All I want is too see Renton again.

Jul 13, 2012 7:32 AM

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Shit got epic, we sure learned a lot and there is still a bunch of stuff left to be curious about.

I also agree that Truth is probably the Secret Nirvash fought against in the past (that arm made it pretty obvious).
Wait, we saw a picture of him when he was young, maybe the professor xyz experimented on him and fused him with a Secret searching for a way to defeat them. It looked like that Secret didn't die because he shielded (?) himself against the Scub Burst Eureka caused, so it might possible.

I wonder why Eureka told Ao to return to Renton, that's actually the thing I'm most curious about now.

Corona01 said:
Unless humans where also in some sort of hibernation for 5000+ years.

Which is likely or they found a new planet they could live on and waited there to ultimately return to Earth.

Jul 13, 2012 8:47 AM

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Corona01 said:

Great point! Though there are so many factors that literaly dont make sense. How do the last humans survive for so long in space? They couldnt have had gravity thingies =P without it human muscles would weaken, and the overall factor, water and food? Without soil you cannot grow anything. Limited supplies in space = death. Unless humans where also in some sort of hibernation for 5000+ years.

Gravity can be "simulated/re-created" via circular motion. What the hell they teach kids these days in school :P ^^

Jul 13, 2012 9:12 AM

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I can pretty much speak for everyone that if we see Renton Only at the last episode to do his ONE line, everyone will be pissed.
but hopefully the fact that u see him will make everyone feel good about themselves

Jul 13, 2012 9:20 AM

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Kurini said:
All I want is too see Renton again.

I agree. I've been waiting on him for a while now. He probably wont appear until very later in the series -.-

Jul 13, 2012 9:29 AM

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Raigerzero said:
... As many people have already suggested or wondered, I think Truth is the Secret from 13 years ago. I can't understand how the writers want us to view him. Normally he seems like a senseless killer looking for "truth", bad in most episodes but seemingly(in a twisted way?) gaining a good light in the previous episode, yet completely antagonistic in this one. I had though he would be friendly with Eureka from his previous dialogues, but nope. ...

Exactly. The time travel (i.e. will what happen now affect the future or will the future take a different timeline completely, most likely the former from how things are going...) thing aside, what or who is Truth?

We have this seemingly omnipotent 'antagonist' who can wipe the floor with everyone yet doesn't do so. This somewhat irks me... I mean it's very cliche(?) for super powered bad guy to fight protagonist(s) and let them go only to have it handed to him later on by those same people who he could've defeated at the start. Unless of course Truth can't kill them specifically because it will ruin the timeline or of his coming into existence. Since his introduction, we haven't really been given any idea as to what he is truly seeking or what his motives are... but from the preview it looks like this will be *somewhat* resolved next week... hopefully...

Overall things got a lot more interesting. Hopefully there will be new OP/ED next week. BONES always choose great OPs and occasionally EDs.

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Jul 13, 2012 9:36 AM

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I don't know what's going on anymore, but surprisingly... I'm enjoying this.

Jul 13, 2012 9:42 AM

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I never felt so much cliffhangers like this in a very long time anyways I am correct good anime are good unlike manga that was adapted into an anime like naruto, bleach, fairy tail and katekyo. We need more good anime like the original Eureka 7 and Blood+ series these days. They both came out as anime first before a manga adaptation.

Jul 13, 2012 9:44 AM

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I'm just going to finally ask it; could someone please tell me whether Eureka is alive or not after the event 10 years ago. PLEASE, it's driving me nuts!

It was a good episode though. We finally got some damn answers, but sadly more questions.

Jul 13, 2012 9:48 AM

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Raigerzero said:
(yes 15, 13 was when the battle happened, where she had a 2-year old Ao who was born on that planet--- correct me if I am mistaken)

She came back 13 years ago, the battle with the Secret happened 10 years ago.

Something I'm wondering about; Holoreka doesn't actually say the Secret aren't humanity's enemy, just that they aren't Ao's enemy. Perhaps the Secret were also created by the Scub Coral just like the Coralians were, and thus they are like siblings. Wasn't it Mama Hannah who said that she didn't want Ao going out to fight the Secret because he could be fighting his own kin?

To anyone who thinks Elena is the daughter of Anemone and Dominic: it's not a bad theory, but how did they have a black child when both have very light skin?

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Jul 13, 2012 10:07 AM

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Okay. So we know that the world Ao lives in is probably Eureka's world of the past according to the date on the Gekko. From what Eureka was saying to Hannah before she got cut off "The doctors said a child from a human and coralian in high trapper levels would..." SOO I'm thinking maybe Eureka brought Ao to the past on purpose because the trapper levels were lower and he would be able to live there without any harm? Assuming that if he lived in the future, A.K.A. Eureka's earth, he would die or be sick due to high trapper levels??

ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT. Naru. How the heck did she get to the scub burst in the middle of the ocean?
Also...I've been thinking. Maybe Naru IS Eureka?!? Remember in the first series they "found" Eureka and the Nirvash. (sorry I can't remember exactly how) But Eureka had no memories of who she was or anything of the sort. And Truth said that the scub coral was growing inside Naru? Which means she could possibly turn into a Coralian and fall into a deep sleep and be found 10,000 years in the future! PLUS remember when Ao first opened up his eyes to the hologram of Eureka?? At first he saw NARU and then he blinked and saw Eureka....

Something to think about...
Either way this episode was freaking awesome. I hope to see Renton soooon!! Ahh my mind is swirling, but I'm really happy that this series is getting so good...and confusing. But hey I'll take it!

Thoughts on my Naru theory??

Jul 13, 2012 10:22 AM

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I wouldnt think Naru would be a Coralian, but a subject to becoming apart of the scub coral. because coralians were initially observers. Maybe a candidate to become the scub command cluster. Im not sure if its possible to say about the high levels of trapar, but Renton and Eureka was investigating the disappearance of the scub coral in their time. It was by some coincidence that Truth was able to recognize a presence in the Scub Coral, which in fact would have gotten her to arrive in Ao's timeline.

Jul 13, 2012 10:27 AM

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Okay. So we know that the world Ao lives in is probably Eureka's world of the past according to the date on the Gekko. From what Eureka was saying to Hannah before she got cut off "The doctors said a child from a human and coralian in high trapper levels would..." SOO I'm thinking maybe Eureka brought Ao to the past on purpose because the trapper levels were lower and he would be able to live there without any harm? Assuming that if he lived in the future, A.K.A. Eureka's earth, he would die or be sick due to high trapper levels??

ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT. Naru. How the heck did she get to the scub burst in the middle of the ocean?
Also...I've been thinking. Maybe Naru IS Eureka?!? Remember in the first series they "found" Eureka and the Nirvash. (sorry I can't remember exactly how) But Eureka had no memories of who she was or anything of the sort. And Truth said that the scub coral was growing inside Naru? Which means she could possibly turn into a Coralian and fall into a deep sleep and be found 10,000 years in the future! PLUS remember when Ao first opened up his eyes to the hologram of Eureka?? At first he saw NARU and then he blinked and saw Eureka....

Something to think about...
Either way this episode was freaking awesome. I hope to see Renton soooon!! Ahh my mind is swirling, but I'm really happy that this series is getting so good...and confusing. But hey I'll take it!

Thoughts on my Naru theory??

Your theory could be right and could be wrong, but i hope its wrong =P firstly, the Nirvash wasnt found with her just like that, Adrock Thurston found the Arcitect and later developed it into the first LFO , Axel designed and made the Surf board etc.. But i realy hope that Naru is Not Eureka because i like Eureka as a character, and i dont like that slutty Naru who likes to walk around half naked everywhere =) but yeah, who knows maybe Naru managed to live for 10 000 years and morph into Eureka.

Jul 13, 2012 10:35 AM

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It seems that this eureka is from an alternate universe, so she doesn't know the people she's dealing with.

Jul 13, 2012 10:38 AM

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If Naru ends up becoming the command cluster for 10,000 years, then she could be the consciousness as to how and why the scub wants to coexist with human life... That means, she is the mother of Gonzy, Sakuya, and Eureka.... Jaysus...

Corona..... They might have found another archetype, just like anemone's "Nirvash" TheEnd. So Renton is probably building it to help Eureka into finding a way to save the disappearance of the Scub Coral.. In Eureka and Renton's time, they are probably finding a way to prevent the trapar from disappearing.

Jul 13, 2012 10:43 AM

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I was kind of bummed when this episode ended. I want to know more about what really happened with Eureka, Renton, and the rest of Gekkostate.

Jul 13, 2012 10:54 AM

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Characters Chart from their site, yep - blank square upper of Eureka says Renton.

Jul 13, 2012 11:15 AM

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Yeah a lot of that makes sense. The whole Naru thing is just and idea. Idk something about her just seems familiar or like nastalgic maybe? I think she has and important role to play when it comes to scub corals/coralians. Idk. I guess we'll find out eventually! Maybe she is Eureka, maybe she is scub mama, heck she could be the flipping Nirvash. Lol

Also, anyone else think Naru's dad looks kinda like Charles from season 1?? Lolol

Jul 13, 2012 11:39 AM

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I've been thinking about this a time now, but I can't remember.
Since when does Eureka have that crystal in her head?
Is it since E7AO, or did it happen near the end of E7?

Jul 13, 2012 11:42 AM

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yess this is what ive been waiting for. cant wiat to see truth get his head sawed off. fucking douchebag.

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Jul 13, 2012 11:47 AM

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TK8 said:
I've been thinking about this a time now, but I can't remember.
Since when does Eureka have that crystal in her head?
Is it since E7AO, or did it happen near the end of E7?

It happened at the end of E7...and I thought Renton got one of them too..his glowed blue and Eureka's glowed red. Right? Yeah I'm pretty sure.

Jul 13, 2012 11:47 AM

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TK8 said:
I've been thinking about this a time now, but I can't remember.
Since when does Eureka have that crystal in her head?
Is it since E7AO, or did it happen near the end of E7?

At the end of E7

It was soo awesome to see Eureka's wings.. Soo Beautiful

Jul 13, 2012 11:49 AM

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ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT. Naru. How the heck did she get to the scub burst in the middle of the ocean?
Also...I've been thinking. Maybe Naru IS Eureka?!? Remember in the first series they "found" Eureka and the Nirvash. (sorry I can't remember exactly how) But Eureka had no memories of who she was or anything of the sort. And Truth said that the scub coral was growing inside Naru? Which means she could possibly turn into a Coralian and fall into a deep sleep and be found 10,000 years in the future! PLUS remember when Ao first opened up his eyes to the hologram of Eureka?? At first he saw NARU and then he blinked and saw Eureka....

Something to think about...
Either way this episode was freaking awesome. I hope to see Renton soooon!! Ahh my mind is swirling, but I'm really happy that this series is getting so good...and confusing. But hey I'll take it!

Thoughts on my Naru theory??

I don't Naru is Eureka. Maybe she has connections with her but I'd doubt that she is her. I mean Naru is the heroine of the story and possibly the love for Ao.

Jul 13, 2012 11:49 AM

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Previous Quote: ":It happened at the end of E7...and I thought Renton got one of them too..his glowed blue and Eureka's glowed red. Right? Yeah I'm pretty sure."

Other way around

Jul 13, 2012 11:53 AM

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Nasty001 said:
It seems that this eureka is from an alternate universe, so she doesn't know the people she's dealing with.

I believe she's from the original E7 world but atm has no idea of wtf is going on in Ao's world. I'm kinda confused on all the time travel stuff but it seems that this Eureka just happened to arrive years before Ao was born and it seems that the other Eureka already left?

Jul 13, 2012 12:05 PM

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Nasty001 said:
It seems that this eureka is from an alternate universe, so she doesn't know the people she's dealing with.

Yeah. 10 years ago in Ao's world, Eureka either died or was sent back to her world when she grabbed the quartz and her wings came out. What I'm wondering is what she was actually doing with them? Maybe she grabbed them to purposely take them back to her time. Idk. I just hope she's alive );

Jul 13, 2012 12:11 PM

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Raigerzero said:

bastek66 said:
Characters Chart from their site, yep - blank square upper of Eureka says Renton.

Thanks for posting this. Can you read the kanji as well for the relationships? From my Chinese classes, I know that 再会 (between Ao and Eureka) means reunion.

Naru --> Ao - childhood friends
Truth -- > Naru - he took her away
Truth --> Eureka - he is going after her/target
Endou --> Eureka - go and get her

Jul 13, 2012 12:24 PM

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Momoko11 said:

LucarioNate said:

Nasty001 said:
It seems that this eureka is from an alternate universe, so she doesn't know the people she's dealing with.

Probably alive and well. The "real" Eureka is probably going to make an appearance sometime later in the series. Hopefully Renton?!?

Jul 13, 2012 1:02 PM

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Yeah. I can't wait for the future episodes in this series!! I want to see Renton soooo bad! I have a feeling they are going to torture the hell out of us and not show him until way later in the series. Probably at some unexpected point that will make us all shit our pants and scream "WTF!?" lol. Just like they did with the Gekko and Eureka :3

Jul 13, 2012 1:12 PM

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NOW guys and girls.. While we are going on and on about Eureka and Renton, our most favourite characters in the world =D. We forgot about NARU who just got F*cked into a scub and vanished for a WHOLE episode..

Jul 13, 2012 1:13 PM

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The emotions showed by Elena during that small scene actually got me excited! I hope they explain her true identity and backstory soon. I think there is a solid chance that she will be connected to some of our characters from the original series. Maybe Anemone or Holland?

Jul 13, 2012 1:24 PM

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Maybe Eureka is imprisoned within the quartz?? If the secrets are not enemies, Truth might have been an experiment which could cause him to hate the world. Maybe Eureka wants Ao to go back to her time to get renton to come save her?

Jul 13, 2012 1:26 PM

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LucarioNate said:
The emotions showed by Elena during that small scene actually got me excited! I hope they explain her true identity and backstory soon. I think there is a solid chance that she will be connected to some of our characters from the original series. Maybe Anemone or Holland?

I thought the same thing but them i wondered... Why is her skin darker than both Holland and Anemone's. I remember someone saying the same thing In a earlier post. We wont know yet but It would be interesting to see if there actualy is a connection.

Jul 13, 2012 1:47 PM

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