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Jun 7, 2008 10:35 PM
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Well, there's no doubts anymore - Vincent is definitely a proxy. How about that. And man is he powerful when he 'acts on instinct' if you will. It looks like the pieces of the puzzle are finally starting to come together, at least a little bit.

Pretty cool episode.
Sep 11, 2008 5:20 AM
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Yes, finally some questions are answered. Damn good episode, and who knew that Pino knew all along.
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i thought that he was related to the proxy but not that he's proxy himself
Oct 24, 2008 9:03 PM
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Ever since Real found Vincent's necklace in her room after that proxy incident it was quite obvious that he's the proxy. But this episode made it clear all together. Very interesting episode.
Dec 22, 2008 8:11 AM
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aero said:
Yes, finally some questions are answered. Damn good episode, and who knew that Pino knew all along.


Ditto here too.

Too bad Asura had to be wasted city. A little greenery doesn't hurt every now and then.
Feb 11, 2009 2:27 PM
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So there is only one question without ansver for now. "Who are proxies?"
Mar 25, 2009 10:59 PM
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kie_ said:
i thought that he was related to the proxy but not that he's proxy himself
Same, this episode was great! Never thought he would be that proxy, but now i guess it makes sense.
May 29, 2009 3:06 PM
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it was sort of hinted from the very first ep, and with each passing episode more evidence about vincent's identity was revealed until this episode. (which plainly answers the question of who he is)

heh, i liked how pino counted up to 400 rabbits till vince came back.

and as for who the proxies are?
well i wouldn't know. and it doesn't seem like they have explained it in depth yet.
but im suspecting that they are either "failed" attempts at making humans.
or mutated humans as the result from the infection. or something else.
hope further episodes explain these things as plainly as it did for this one.
(or explaining it in an implied manner would also be nice though)
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May 29, 2009 7:23 PM
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This episode has confirmed by now that Vincent is indeed a Proxy.

It appears to me that Kazkis Proxy's human form was influenced by Brad Pitt’s character from the movie Legends of the Fall The resemblance is quite obvious in some scenes! This episode (Angel's Share) also has the same title as the GitS: Stand Alone Complex Episode 17. Since the title is a term used in wine production, wine is heavily referenced in both episodes.
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May 31, 2009 8:47 AM
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finally ! I thought the truth will never be revealed :)
Jul 25, 2009 4:30 PM

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Really good episode. But jeez, anytime we find a new place all the people we meet die.

I'm still very confused by the blonde guy's motives. He was trying to explain the goodness of destruction and why all those people had to die and why they're a "lie" and it confused me to all Hell.

No Re-l this episode. I miss her already.
Sep 20, 2009 4:45 PM
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Wow. Vincent's a proxy!!!

That would explain a couple of things xD
Sep 23, 2009 3:45 PM
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Also, why are there talking naked statues in this anime show?
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ArtsyAb said:
Also, why are there talking naked statues in this anime show?


This is just a question's anime. Almost a quiz. :-P

I must admit that Vincent's true identity has surprised me.
Mar 5, 2010 4:28 PM

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Also, why are there talking naked statues in this anime show?

The statues aren't talking... I think.
I think its actually people talking. But the camera view is on the statues. This has been done in several works before, though I can't name them.
Also instead of people, i think they're Autoreivs. Because they were like "Heart rate increasing, Respiration rate increasing" or something like that when they were talking to the Head of the Security Bureau. So I think the Central Bureau is actually the Grandfather and a bunch of advisor autoreivs.
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THIS EPISODE WAS EPICC WOW. That'd be so cool if you were just some weak ass pushover and suddenly you become like the most powerful Proxy lmfaooo. So is he like, able to control his transformations now? Or can he only activate it in life/death situations... wow i wanna see Re-L's face when she see's Vincents true form lol.

I like the Proxy to God comparison. Because they are like, the Deities of their world. And they each are the Proxy of something, such as Proxy of the Moon, or Proxy of Death. as opposed to Goddess (in this case) of the Moon and God of Death, which is also ironic because Vincent even wondered himself if he was a "Shinigami" or Death God.
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YExoticCreature said:
Also, why are there talking naked statues in this anime show?


maybe they are AutoReivs
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Didn't Real die? I would swear I saw a Death Certificate with her name being filled by Daedalus o.o
Oh well, maybe there's a rebirth or something.
On to Ergo; I liked how they made him the Death Proxy. Sounds like the "all-mighty-monster-that-will-kill-everything"...
Now I wonder who the Proxies really are. On to the next episode!
May 8, 2010 5:20 AM

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A very good episode indeed. Even though Vince knows he's a Proxy he's still going to Moscow, but what for? I guess we'll find out soon enough but I wonder where Re-l will fit back into all of this.
May 23, 2010 2:07 PM

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Wait whaaaaaaaat??
ok pretty obvious for a while now that Vince is the proxy, but what the heck was the other guy blabbering on about
Jul 17, 2010 5:52 AM

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Well, it was fairly obvious from the beginning that he's a proxy, but it's nice having it confirmed.

But that wine dude's talk totally confused me. I should have paid more attention to what I was watching xD
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Jul 17, 2010 9:33 PM
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Nice to see many things come into pieces!
Jul 17, 2010 9:45 PM

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is obvious that he is a proxy ^^

well I saw the anime....awesome anime is so cool and mysterious

Aug 16, 2010 12:20 PM

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5 out of 5: Loved it! (your vote)

Oh, shit!! Vincent, you go boy!!!!
Oct 8, 2010 11:06 AM

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Vincent is indeed a proxy. Still many more questions to be answered.
Nov 11, 2010 3:00 AM
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kie_ said:
i thought that he was related to the proxy but not that he's proxy himself


Me too - I thought he was a direct descendent or something.
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YExoticCreature said:
Wow. Vincent's a proxy!!!

That would explain a couple of things xD


*facepalm*


This.

I can't believe you people didn't realize that he WAS the Proxy >_>
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cantius said:
YExoticCreature said:
Wow. Vincent's a proxy!!!

That would explain a couple of things xD


*facepalm*
cantius said:
YExoticCreature said:
Wow. Vincent's a proxy!!!

That would explain a couple of things xD


*facepalm*

I loled at this.
Jan 4, 2011 4:18 PM

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Vincent killed him pretty fast. I kinda want to see a 1 on 1 proxy fight, that would've been interesting.


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heh, i liked how pino counted up to 400 rabbits till vince came back.


I was thinking, "Ah what a sweet and forgiving child...err autoreiv." LOL

And I love the last shot of the episode where Pino was standing and leaning behind Vincent. ♥♥♥
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I like how the previews are done by X for X arc.

Pino is so cute <3.
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Apr 3, 2011 4:11 PM
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I thought we already knew Vincent was a proxy from the previous episode "~"

Oh well. rofl, that blonde dude (didn't catch his name) was such a creep, trying to seduce Vincent.

Pino is great
Apr 15, 2011 3:41 PM

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Bad editing, annoying Loli-tron and Avatar eyes, nice.

A man of few words.
Apr 26, 2011 1:14 PM
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aaah Pino is so cute how she can't leave Vince alone and counting rabbits.

Also the fact that Vince was a Proxy was obvious. But the proxy of Death! and he seems to be a pretty bad ass one to.
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He is a proxy. :O
Now I know for sure, but wondering what's next.
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Aug 28, 2012 12:13 PM

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Wow what a plot twist, great episode!
Oct 19, 2012 10:32 AM

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Finally, Vincent is confirmed the proxy - Ergo Proxy that is..
Kinda confused what the Proxy of Brilliance is trying to say but I had something in my mind.
Hopefully, next eps will explain. :)

Great episode BTW.
Dec 4, 2012 2:02 AM

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Soultaker?
Dec 15, 2012 1:45 AM

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I'm glad that the blonde one is out. He tried to seduce Vincent after he killed his beloved one ? Oh, okay. Anyway he is where he wanted to be and he gave us a few answers and a lot more questions.

Pino would be a great daughter :D

Going to the next episode :)
Feb 2, 2013 7:13 AM

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So not only Vincent is a proxy, but he's the proxy of death. Very interesting.

Mar 9, 2013 5:31 PM
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Funnymrbunny said:
YExoticCreature said:
Also, why are there talking naked statues in this anime show?

The statues aren't talking... I think.
I think its actually people talking. But the camera view is on the statues. This has been done in several works before, though I can't name them.

I like the Proxy to God comparison. Because they are like, the Deities of their world. And they each are the Proxy of something, such as Proxy of the Moon, or Proxy of Death. as opposed to Goddess (in this case) of the Moon and God of Death, which is also ironic because Vincent even wondered himself if he was a "Shinigami" or Death God.


Hm really? I thought the statues' heads were moving and stuff. Maybe that's for effect so that it seems like the statues are talking. Still weird though. Those statues also give me headaches :P

It must be sad for Vincent when he realizes/remembers that he is the Proxy of Death because he doesn't like death. Even though he doesn't know how to keep living, at least he still is :) I'm glad he's back with Pino. They're a cute duo. I wonder why he cried when he was in proxy form that time when he went to Re-l's apartment? It can't just be because he likes her right?
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Ah, so the pretty proxy from last ep was Hauer's soulmate, Senekis... Also, I think Hauer mentioned, (Between chugging all that wine.. That guy can drink!) that Vincent had killed his own soul mate? Was that the one that was chasing him around in Romdo?

"I've already counted to one hundred so I'm going to leave Vince behind, ok?...Hmm... 50 more!" Oh Pino... So cute.
May 1, 2013 12:36 PM

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Ever since Real found Vincent's necklace in her room after that proxy incident it was quite obvious that he's the proxy. But this episode made it clear all together. Very interesting episode.


Felt the same way since that episode which I think was number 2
May 1, 2013 2:06 PM

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My expectation about who Vicent really is, is now confirmed.
I didn't know that Pino knew about the true identity of Vicent :o
This girl keeps surprising me episode by episode xD
May 22, 2013 10:41 PM

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Great episode.
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Great episode! Two sexy Proxies battling it out... Hell yeah!!

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Jun 27, 2013 3:42 AM
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Finally we have confirmation of what was suspected all along. He's a proxy and a powerful one at that.
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Ok so there was always that thing in the back of my mind that vincent was a proxy, i mean the "hints" were like "hey guys hes a proxy" soooo yea. BUT. The episode before this one, got me thinking. These proxys are connected to things. That one was the moon.

OMFG vincent is the god...i mean proxy of....DEATH. Not goina say i called it, but im happy when my assumptions are right ^^. Vincent OP
Oct 20, 2013 7:58 AM

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great episode and just clarification that vincent was a proxy, but now we know he is the proxy of death, very interesting xD pino knowing all along was a reveal for me, her counting rabbits made me smile too :)

only thing i would like to know now is what other people have asked previously.... what are proxies? sure it will be explained the pacing on this anime i have realized is so good, nice and steady with healthy amounts of action but also information, love it so far
Nov 4, 2013 6:14 AM

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I thought he would be a proxy . . . But not "Ergo Proxy" . . . Though guess it makes sense why he is so powerful. But feel bad now for "Monad" since apparently he/she did all this shit for Ergo just to have him kill her/him.
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Pino definitely masterminded this whole op
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy."
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