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Mar 9, 3:46 AM
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I have to admit that I'm starting to feel completely lost.

We've just seen a mother/son moment at the end of episode 9 between
. But I don't quite remember what happened with Ah-Duo's son, since he officially died.
I know a swapped happened, but with who?

So who's the real mother of Jinshi? And who's his father? Why was Luomen banished from the court?
Mar 9, 3:57 AM
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What swap? Even Maomao admitted it was just her own speculation without any concrete basis.
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp!

Mar 9, 5:13 AM
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Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son. She and Anshi decided to swap the kids because Ah-Duo wanted a better life for her son, and Anshi didn't want to take care of another kid of the man she hated (former emperor).

Therefore, Anshi took care of Jinshi and Ah-Duo of Anshi's son until he died from accidental honey poisoning at the hand of Ah-Duo's head maid.

So basically:
Biologically, Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son
On paper, Jinshi is Anshi and the former emperor's son and current emperor's little brother.

Maomao's theory makes sense because of Jinshi's resemblance to Ah-Duo, and his resemblance to the former emperor could come from the fact that he's Jinshi's grandfather.
Mar 9, 5:15 AM
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Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son. She and Anshi decided to swap the kids because Ah-Duo wanted a better life for her son, and Anshi didn't want to take care of another kid of the man she hated (former emperor).

Therefore, Anshi took care of Jinshi and Ah-Duo of Anshi's son until he died from accidental honey poisoning at the hand of Ah-Duo's head maid.

So basically:
Biologically, Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son
On paper, Jinshi is Anshi and the former emperor's son and current emperor's little brother.

Maomao's theory makes sense because of Jinshi's resemblance to Ah-Duo, and his resemblance to the former emperor could come from the fact that he's Jinshi's grandfather.
@MaxAkumax You're amazing, thank you for that.
Mar 9, 6:13 AM
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MaxAkumax said:
Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son. She and Anshi decided to swap the kids because Ah-Duo wanted a better life for her son, and Anshi didn't want to take care of another kid of the man she hated (former emperor).

Therefore, Anshi took care of Jinshi and Ah-Duo of Anshi's son until he died from accidental honey poisoning at the hand of Ah-Duo's head maid.

So basically:
Biologically, Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son
On paper, Jinshi is Anshi and the former emperor's son and current emperor's little brother.

Maomao's theory makes sense because of Jinshi's resemblance to Ah-Duo, and his resemblance to the former emperor could come from the fact that he's Jinshi's grandfather.

(Not the original poster)

Thank you for the detailed explanation, I appreciate it.

Although, I am a little surprised that people couldn’t figure this out from watching the anime.

Do you think it was not so obvious as I am thinking ?
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Mar 9, 6:25 AM
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MaxAkumax said:
Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son. She and Anshi decided to swap the kids because Ah-Duo wanted a better life for her son, and Anshi didn't want to take care of another kid of the man she hated (former emperor).

Therefore, Anshi took care of Jinshi and Ah-Duo of Anshi's son until he died from accidental honey poisoning at the hand of Ah-Duo's head maid.

So basically:
Biologically, Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son
On paper, Jinshi is Anshi and the former emperor's son and current emperor's little brother.

Maomao's theory makes sense because of Jinshi's resemblance to Ah-Duo, and his resemblance to the former emperor could come from the fact that he's Jinshi's grandfather.

please use spolier tag ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป
Mar 9, 6:29 AM
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Reference-kun said:
MaxAkumax said:
Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son. She and Anshi decided to swap the kids because Ah-Duo wanted a better life for her son, and Anshi didn't want to take care of another kid of the man she hated (former emperor).

Therefore, Anshi took care of Jinshi and Ah-Duo of Anshi's son until he died from accidental honey poisoning at the hand of Ah-Duo's head maid.

So basically:
Biologically, Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son
On paper, Jinshi is Anshi and the former emperor's son and current emperor's little brother.

Maomao's theory makes sense because of Jinshi's resemblance to Ah-Duo, and his resemblance to the former emperor could come from the fact that he's Jinshi's grandfather.

please use spolier tag ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป

This is based on all the information I got from the anime so far. So it's not a spoiler. People should just pay attention
Mar 9, 6:54 AM
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Jinshi is the grandson of the loli who nailed the former lolicon emperor.

He's also the son of the current emperor who came out of the loli.
Mar 9, 7:53 AM
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Reference-kun said:
MaxAkumax said:
Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son. She and Anshi decided to swap the kids because Ah-Duo wanted a better life for her son, and Anshi didn't want to take care of another kid of the man she hated (former emperor).

Therefore, Anshi took care of Jinshi and Ah-Duo of Anshi's son until he died from accidental honey poisoning at the hand of Ah-Duo's head maid.

So basically:
Biologically, Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son
On paper, Jinshi is Anshi and the former emperor's son and current emperor's little brother.

Maomao's theory makes sense because of Jinshi's resemblance to Ah-Duo, and his resemblance to the former emperor could come from the fact that he's Jinshi's grandfather.

please use spolier tag ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป

This is based on all the information I got from the anime so far. So it's not a spoiler. People should just pay attention
@MaxAkumax Anything regarding the potential baby swap is mere speculation at this point in the anime, yet you're stating it as a fact.
It doesn't even get confirmed or denied until the epilogue of Volume 5 of the LN which the anime hasn't gotten to yet and won't get to this season.
Mar 9, 11:55 AM
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I must admit I was lost too, just from the anime. I thought I paid attention but it was too complicated, at some times I had to pause it think about it and rewind it, still didn't understand๐Ÿ˜… I only properly learned everything from the wiki page. But in this last episode they revealed a lot of things. So finally I understand ๐Ÿ˜… But if you miss out one information you are lost.
Mar 9, 4:29 PM

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From my understanding and based on the information we have.

Jinshi is officially the old emperor and empress dowagers son (on paper anyway)
Which means he is the current emperors brother.

However the theory is that he is actually the current emperors son with ah duo that was swapped with the old emperors and anshi real son.

This suggests that he is actually the current prince and heir to the throne.

U can see the genes of both the old emperors (grand father) and Ah duo (real mother) in jinshi
Mar 9, 11:24 PM
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antonn said:
@MaxAkumax Anything regarding the potential baby swap is mere speculation at this point in the anime, yet you're stating it as a fact.
It doesn't even get confirmed or denied until the epilogue of Volume 5 of the LN which the anime hasn't gotten to yet and won't get to this season.

Mere speculation is crazy. It was delivered so strongly regardless of speculation or not I think it’s more difficult to deny.
Mar 9, 11:32 PM
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MaxAkumax said:
Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son. She and Anshi decided to swap the kids because Ah-Duo wanted a better life for her son, and Anshi didn't want to take care of another kid of the man she hated (former emperor).

Therefore, Anshi took care of Jinshi and Ah-Duo of Anshi's son until he died from accidental honey poisoning at the hand of Ah-Duo's head maid.

So basically:
Biologically, Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son
On paper, Jinshi is Anshi and the former emperor's son and current emperor's little brother.

Maomao's theory makes sense because of Jinshi's resemblance to Ah-Duo, and his resemblance to the former emperor could come from the fact that he's Jinshi's grandfather.

Also to add some points that support this
1. Jinshi was drinking medicine that could make him impotent. This leads credence to him not being a eunuch
2. With what’s said above and the speculation on his lineage it makes sense why he gets to do as he pleases
3. His participation in the ceremony that Mao-Mao saved him. This was a ceremony for a person of high-standing which fits if he’s the current heir to the throne.
4. Mao-Mao and Jinshi navigating the trial to test an emperor is blatant alluding and foreshadowing to me.

I’m sure there are even more but these are what I could think of off hand.
Mar 10, 1:04 AM

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ejleon said:
MaxAkumax said:
Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son. She and Anshi decided to swap the kids because Ah-Duo wanted a better life for her son, and Anshi didn't want to take care of another kid of the man she hated (former emperor).

Therefore, Anshi took care of Jinshi and Ah-Duo of Anshi's son until he died from accidental honey poisoning at the hand of Ah-Duo's head maid.

So basically:
Biologically, Jinshi is Ah-Duo and current emperor's son
On paper, Jinshi is Anshi and the former emperor's son and current emperor's little brother.

Maomao's theory makes sense because of Jinshi's resemblance to Ah-Duo, and his resemblance to the former emperor could come from the fact that he's Jinshi's grandfather.

(Not the original poster)

Thank you for the detailed explanation, I appreciate it.

Although, I am a little surprised that people couldn’t figure this out from watching the anime.

Do you think it was not so obvious as I am thinking ?

Idk for others but for me at least, I just forgot some stuff about it from last season so I kinda just needed a review (my memory is terrible ๐Ÿ˜ญ)
Mar 10, 3:47 AM

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antonn said:
@MaxAkumax Anything regarding the potential baby swap is mere speculation at this point in the anime, yet you're stating it as a fact.
It doesn't even get confirmed or denied until the epilogue of Volume 5 of the LN which the anime hasn't gotten to yet and won't get to this season.

Mere speculation is crazy. It was delivered so strongly regardless of speculation or not I think it’s more difficult to deny.
@GulielmusPrime We know for sure Jinshi isn't a eunuch and that he's either the son of Ah Duo or Anshi. It's heavily hinted, yes, but there's no confirmation in the anime yet whether the baby swap really happened or whether Anshi was in on it.
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@MaxAkumax Anything regarding the potential baby swap is mere speculation at this point in the anime, yet you're stating it as a fact.
It doesn't even get confirmed or denied until the epilogue of Volume 5 of the LN which the anime hasn't gotten to yet and won't get to this season.
@antonn Someone who doesn't want ''spoilers'' shouldn't read these comments, first of all, secondly the anime showed the situation quite clearly, so there's nothing to complain about.
Mar 10, 5:18 PM
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I'm losing track who's who, which is which, at this point, i'm assuming the whole palace inhabitants is related in a way or another either by blood, marriage or adoption, excluding the lowly servant, i guess
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Good grief, brothers
I was worried watching 13 animes simultaneously would make me lose track on the characters, but bros here are confusing key points like this...

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