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Mar 2, 4:38 AM
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Yeah this for sure some "KaKa Technology" right here lmao

The "human-assistance" after the clearly generative-AI is so clearly just to disguise how absolutely awful it looks, moves & the extreme inconsistencies.
Why should we give the time of day to something that clearly doesn't give a shit about it's viewers?
They're really trying so hard to make it appear "stylistic" but give it 2 seconds of analysis & it falls apart.




Also hell nah, the OP is called "Augment Day!"? Man LMAO
At this point, just start selling NFT's too while you're at it!
Mar 2, 5:44 AM
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I fully support AI experimentations. The tech will definitely work at some point in the close future and will make many kinds of artworks much more affordable.
.... But this one clearly doesn't work, lol.

Given your first sentence, you're likely aware, but I'll say it for people who don't realize it : "caca" in French means "shit" xD! I think there are other languages where similar words means this. So.... very poor choice of name.
Everything changes. Even the happy and funny things eventually disappear. How can I still enjoy this place then?
- Furukawa Nagisa (Clannad)

You have to make a choice. Either you give up on your soul for the sake of science, or you give up on science to save your soul. In my case, the soul was already in pieces.
- Lloyd Asplund (Code Geass)

Do you understand the meaning behind Nunnaly's smile? She can't see or walk. So there are things in this world that she knows she can't do alone. Her smile... is her only way to show gratitude.
- Lelouch Vi Britannia (Code Geass)

Death is part of Life.
- ... Me.
Mar 3, 5:07 AM
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I fully support AI experimentations. The tech will definitely work at some point in the close future and will make many kinds of artworks much more affordable.
.... But this one clearly doesn't work, lol.

Given your first sentence, you're likely aware, but I'll say it for people who don't realize it : "caca" in French means "shit" xD! I think there are other languages where similar words means this. So.... very poor choice of name.
@Dante012 As an animator & artist, I cannot support AI experimentations until it's ethical, which as it is looking right now, it doesn't seem to be on the right track atm, one can hope tho

Yeah, for sure, it's so awful looking LMAO! And yep, I made the Kaka joke for that reason, gotta love the irony!
Mar 3, 9:26 AM
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@Dante012 As an animator & artist, I cannot support AI experimentations until it's ethical, which as it is looking right now, it doesn't seem to be on the right track atm, one can hope tho

Yeah, for sure, it's so awful looking LMAO! And yep, I made the Kaka joke for that reason, gotta love the irony!
@Hwak2-a as opposed to the ethical workplaces known as mappa?
Mar 3, 9:28 AM
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I was honestly surprised, it looks really good for being 95% AI. The backgrounds are great, though the movements look a little scuffed people are chill with cgi so I could see this replacing that to some degree.
Mar 3, 9:40 AM
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I was honestly surprised, it looks really good for being 95% AI. The backgrounds are great, though the movements look a little scuffed people are chill with cgi so I could see this replacing that to some degree.
@SuperGuy1141 It's not complete garbage, but it's not commercially viable. Imagine seeing this without knowing it's AI. Would you say it doesn't look awful compared to other shows?
Everything changes. Even the happy and funny things eventually disappear. How can I still enjoy this place then?
- Furukawa Nagisa (Clannad)

You have to make a choice. Either you give up on your soul for the sake of science, or you give up on science to save your soul. In my case, the soul was already in pieces.
- Lloyd Asplund (Code Geass)

Do you understand the meaning behind Nunnaly's smile? She can't see or walk. So there are things in this world that she knows she can't do alone. Her smile... is her only way to show gratitude.
- Lelouch Vi Britannia (Code Geass)

Death is part of Life.
- ... Me.
Mar 3, 8:32 PM
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@SuperGuy1141 It's not complete garbage, but it's not commercially viable. Imagine seeing this without knowing it's AI. Would you say it doesn't look awful compared to other shows?
@Dante012 I wouldn't say Awful, but I don't think the intended purpose of this project is to show Anime can be made exclusively by AI, Across The Spiderverse was made using AI and nobody noticed/said anything. This is just taking the tech to an extreme, to show animation studios what's possible. I remember seeing AI animations years ago and it looked trash, looking at it now there has been insane improvements. To think what would be possible in just a few more years. This would enable mangakas and authors to focus more on stories. Imagine just launching up Youtube and seeing a new episode of your favourite anime.
Mar 6, 3:54 AM
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@Dante012 I wouldn't say Awful, but I don't think the intended purpose of this project is to show Anime can be made exclusively by AI, Across The Spiderverse was made using AI and nobody noticed/said anything. This is just taking the tech to an extreme, to show animation studios what's possible. I remember seeing AI animations years ago and it looked trash, looking at it now there has been insane improvements. To think what would be possible in just a few more years. This would enable mangakas and authors to focus more on stories. Imagine just launching up Youtube and seeing a new episode of your favourite anime.
@SuperGuy1141 Spiderverse wasn't made with GENERATIVE AI, yes, not all AI is garbage slop-AI, but generative AI is because it literally steals from countless of artists who didn't consent to it, and even if it is "drawn over" in this anime's case, it still is built on the principles of stolen, unpayed work.
Mar 10, 2:18 AM
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@SuperGuy1141 Spiderverse wasn't made with GENERATIVE AI, yes, not all AI is garbage slop-AI, but generative AI is because it literally steals from countless of artists who didn't consent to it, and even if it is "drawn over" in this anime's case, it still is built on the principles of stolen, unpayed work.
@Hwak2-a AI doesn't steal anyone. You're uninformed.
It's trained on others' content... just like you train on others' content when learning literally anything.

Did you steal authors when you learned how to read? No. You just trained.
Everything changes. Even the happy and funny things eventually disappear. How can I still enjoy this place then?
- Furukawa Nagisa (Clannad)

You have to make a choice. Either you give up on your soul for the sake of science, or you give up on science to save your soul. In my case, the soul was already in pieces.
- Lloyd Asplund (Code Geass)

Do you understand the meaning behind Nunnaly's smile? She can't see or walk. So there are things in this world that she knows she can't do alone. Her smile... is her only way to show gratitude.
- Lelouch Vi Britannia (Code Geass)

Death is part of Life.
- ... Me.
Mar 30, 9:01 AM

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@Hwak2-a AI doesn't steal anyone. You're uninformed.
It's trained on others' content... just like you train on others' content when learning literally anything.

Did you steal authors when you learned how to read? No. You just trained.
@Dante012 Speaking as someone who is painfully on the fence regarding how to view this whole AI art debacle - you are never going to convince anyone that's how it works. A computer program doesn't have the ability to innovate on it's own. Ethics of the issue aside, training an AI and training an artist are not and should not be considered the same thing.

As far as the animation of this show goes - my first thought before I knew it was AI was that it looked like rotoscoping. It kind of gives off that same feeling of being weirdly fluid and janky all at the same time. That alone will probably put me off of watching it, though - I've never been able to sit through a show with rotoscope animation - too much uncanny valley for my tastes.
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Apr 4, 6:28 PM

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consumers don't care about the method, they care about the product, deep you know this, you're just baiting coz you're frustrated

1 example being bad doesn't mean the rest will be, ai is improving at an unprecedented pace, this one doesn't even look bad as you described it
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It's shit because it's made by AI.

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