| https://animegalaxyofficial.com/sakamoto-days-anime-production-struggles/ lower your expectations sakamoto days fans |
| If it wasn't already obvious. |
| Well, it still looks better than most seasonals ^^ (If you're not a butthurt Manga-Fanatic, of course) |
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| For people who don't want to click on the link: The main piece of solid info seems to be that Episode 5's end credits show 23 studios that worked on it. Twenty-three! It's almost impressive that the finished product gets only this much complaining and criticism. How did they even manage that? |
babajeeds said: The hard boiled fans aren't worried. 👏 well said 😂 |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
| Stop living in entitlement ^^ You have the right to enjoy this above average production. The way you behave is like a kid who got a Ps5 for Christmas. But since you didn't get 10 games aswell you think it's shit xD This Show looks better than 70% of Anime coming out each season. Bitching about how it could be better is so ungrateful^^ Saying the Animation is bad is just not true. If they're greedy/lazy right now in your opinion then let me tell you: They could do a LOT worse. It looks good. Maybe you try and forget that there's "tHe mAnGA", for a second and just appreciate what you've got^^ The Manga still exists btw. nothing stops you from just reading that, instead of watching something you don't like, just because it's not ink on paper. |
Merve2LoveFeb 6, 11:39 PM
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Reply to Angel-99
Insanity_Monarch said:
The following is the verified information regarding the production issues of the Sakamoto Days anime, based on credible reports and staff statements:
Involvement of Multiple Studios:
It has been confirmed that 23 different studios contributed to the production of a single episode, as reported in discussions about the anime's production process. This extensive outsourcing is unusual and has been noted as a potential sign of scheduling or resource challenges.
Incomplete Pre-Production Work:
Satoshi Sakai, a staff member who worked on action design for the series, stated that the storyboards and layouts for certain episodes, such as the second half of episode four, were only completed "to a certain extent" before animation began. This information comes directly from a staff member involved in the production.
Studio Selection Timing:
Reports indicate that the studio selection process for Sakamoto Days began as early as 2021, when the manga was still in its comedic, slice-of-life phase, before its shift to a more action-heavy narrative. This has been cited as a factor in the choice of TMS Entertainment as the primary studio.
Second Cour Schedule:
It has been officially announced that the second cour of the anime is scheduled to air in July 2025, three months after the first cour ends, indicating a tight production timeline for the continuation of the series.
These points are based on verified statements and official announcements. Other concerns, such as fan reactions or speculative impacts on quality, are not included here as they are not universally verified.
The following is the verified information regarding the production issues of the Sakamoto Days anime, based on credible reports and staff statements:
Involvement of Multiple Studios:
It has been confirmed that 23 different studios contributed to the production of a single episode, as reported in discussions about the anime's production process. This extensive outsourcing is unusual and has been noted as a potential sign of scheduling or resource challenges.
Incomplete Pre-Production Work:
Satoshi Sakai, a staff member who worked on action design for the series, stated that the storyboards and layouts for certain episodes, such as the second half of episode four, were only completed "to a certain extent" before animation began. This information comes directly from a staff member involved in the production.
Studio Selection Timing:
Reports indicate that the studio selection process for Sakamoto Days began as early as 2021, when the manga was still in its comedic, slice-of-life phase, before its shift to a more action-heavy narrative. This has been cited as a factor in the choice of TMS Entertainment as the primary studio.
Second Cour Schedule:
It has been officially announced that the second cour of the anime is scheduled to air in July 2025, three months after the first cour ends, indicating a tight production timeline for the continuation of the series.
These points are based on verified statements and official announcements. Other concerns, such as fan reactions or speculative impacts on quality, are not included here as they are not universally verified.
Wow, the slice-of-life phase, huh? I feel like sakadays got out of that as early as volume 3.
TMS has done action before to a reasonably good degree (UU and Baki for example), so you’d think the team wasn’t a bad fit. I wonder how they wound up with 20 in one episode
Angel-99 said: TMS has done action before to a reasonably good degree (UU and Baki for example) Undead Unluck was produced by TMS under their Unlimited Produce brand, but it was actually animated by David Production. |
Reply to Merve2Love
Stop living in entitlement ^^
You have the right to enjoy this above average production.
The way you behave is like a kid who got a Ps5 for Christmas. But since you didn't get 10 games aswell you think it's shit xD
This Show looks better than 70% of Anime coming out each season. Bitching about how it could be better is so ungrateful^^
Saying the Animation is bad is just not true.
If they're greedy/lazy right now in your opinion then let me tell you: They could do a LOT worse. It looks good.
Maybe you try and forget that there's "tHe mAnGA", for a second and just appreciate what you've got^^
The Manga still exists btw. nothing stops you from just reading that, instead of watching something you don't like, just because it's not ink on paper.
You have the right to enjoy this above average production.
The way you behave is like a kid who got a Ps5 for Christmas. But since you didn't get 10 games aswell you think it's shit xD
This Show looks better than 70% of Anime coming out each season. Bitching about how it could be better is so ungrateful^^
Saying the Animation is bad is just not true.
If they're greedy/lazy right now in your opinion then let me tell you: They could do a LOT worse. It looks good.
Maybe you try and forget that there's "tHe mAnGA", for a second and just appreciate what you've got^^
The Manga still exists btw. nothing stops you from just reading that, instead of watching something you don't like, just because it's not ink on paper.
| @Merve2Love well, despite having seen worse animation, SakaDays is not really above average. Have you not seen episode 5? Bland direction, awful compositing, off model characters, stiff movements and boring camera work, and that's not even accounting for speed lines, overused slow-motions and still impact frames, which is literally a 1-to-1 copy from the manga, where speedlines are used to convey movement in a static image - all of these issues have been recurring elements in the previous episodes. Yeah, the manga exists, so does this boring anime, and the criticisms it is getting are all valid. Call it out as it should be. This show is average at best. |
Reply to Musashi_Arun
Please hire more key animators for the fights,they look terrible in the anime compared the masterpiece manga
| @Musashi_Arun Hiring "more" people is not going to fix anything, unless you specifically mean action-oriented animators. But that still would not change unless there's better directors, more creative storyboards and generally better schedule. |
Reply to BaseLion
@Merve2Love well, despite having seen worse animation, SakaDays is not really above average. Have you not seen episode 5? Bland direction, awful compositing, off model characters, stiff movements and boring camera work, and that's not even accounting for speed lines, overused slow-motions and still impact frames, which is literally a 1-to-1 copy from the manga, where speedlines are used to convey movement in a static image - all of these issues have been recurring elements in the previous episodes. Yeah, the manga exists, so does this boring anime, and the criticisms it is getting are all valid. Call it out as it should be. This show is average at best.
| @BaseLion We cleary disagree what the word average actually means and is, when we talk about seasonal Anime. Here are a couple of Bock Standard Anime for this Season: https://myanimelist.net/anime/55318/Medalist https://myanimelist.net/anime/57050/Kisaki_Kyouiku_kara_Nigetai_Watashi https://myanimelist.net/anime/57152/Mahoutsukai_no_Yakusoku https://myanimelist.net/anime/59349/Salaryman_ga_Isekai_ni_Ittara_Shitennou_ni_Natta_Hanashi Watch those. Just watch half an Episode. Then compare the "movements", "camera" (lol) and direction. Not to mention general style and animation. Do it. THOSE are average. Sakamoto is not :) It's not even a debate. Sakamoto got a better treatment than the avarage Anime. That's a fact. Is it perfect? Well, maybe not. But what is? |
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Reply to Merve2Love
@BaseLion
We cleary disagree what the word average actually means and is, when we talk about seasonal Anime.
Here are a couple of Bock Standard Anime for this Season:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/55318/Medalist
https://myanimelist.net/anime/57050/Kisaki_Kyouiku_kara_Nigetai_Watashi
https://myanimelist.net/anime/57152/Mahoutsukai_no_Yakusoku
https://myanimelist.net/anime/59349/Salaryman_ga_Isekai_ni_Ittara_Shitennou_ni_Natta_Hanashi
Watch those. Just watch half an Episode. Then compare the "movements", "camera" (lol) and direction. Not to mention general style and animation. Do it.
THOSE are average. Sakamoto is not :) It's not even a debate. Sakamoto got a better treatment than the avarage Anime. That's a fact.
Is it perfect? Well, maybe not. But what is?
We cleary disagree what the word average actually means and is, when we talk about seasonal Anime.
Here are a couple of Bock Standard Anime for this Season:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/55318/Medalist
https://myanimelist.net/anime/57050/Kisaki_Kyouiku_kara_Nigetai_Watashi
https://myanimelist.net/anime/57152/Mahoutsukai_no_Yakusoku
https://myanimelist.net/anime/59349/Salaryman_ga_Isekai_ni_Ittara_Shitennou_ni_Natta_Hanashi
Watch those. Just watch half an Episode. Then compare the "movements", "camera" (lol) and direction. Not to mention general style and animation. Do it.
THOSE are average. Sakamoto is not :) It's not even a debate. Sakamoto got a better treatment than the avarage Anime. That's a fact.
Is it perfect? Well, maybe not. But what is?
| @Merve2Love Medalist is a fantastic anime - I'd say it's the underdog of the season, I'm personally enjoying it. Everything about it is just popping off. I am watching Salaryman - it's just another isekai slop lol, so not much to say for it. I have not watched the rest but I picked a random episode for the anime about the kidnapped princess, and the visuals are actually good? Animation there is fine? Promise of Wizard looks horrid though. Yeah, pitting your chosen picks of seasonal anime against SakaDays, half of that list already looks better than Sakamoto Days, just based on visuals. I can't speak for the quality of the materials though, except for the Medalist (I personally recommend the show, it's fantastic). Well, just nitpicking about animation isn't really fair either, so my bad on that. As a whole, SakaDays shows is an alright show, nothing spectacular, nothing horrid - just mid, which is why I called the show average. It has its nice moments for sure, but overall, it's just bland. We are 6 episodes in, I can't really think of any standout moments from the show. No one's looking for the perfect anime, just something that's enjoyable - SakaDays is just not hitting it, and there seems to be a sizable number of audience who agree on that. Edit: also kinda didn't even address the point that SakaDays is one of the biggest heavy hitters from WSJ lauded for its action, so there's an actual context to having reasonable expectations that it will be a good adaptation - the series doesn't strike me as something I'd typically compare with seasonal anime where you see tons of subpar slops. Whether or not it's good, bad or average (depending on what kind of series you're pitting it against) is up to the audience to decide - seems to be the case that it's clearly not good lol - not really a surprise given what we are watching. |
BaseLionFeb 9, 11:48 AM
| I love the manga and even though I'm a fanboy of One Punch Man, I think Sakamoto Days does a current better job with action scenes. Unfortunately, I can't tell the same about the anime. The animation sucks, the color palette is ridiculous, even the VA choices were bad in my opinion. I don't think the second part will be better than this and I really hope it gets a better production for season 2 on. The only good thing the anime is doing is gathering more fans for the manga, at least, I hope. If I could press a button to wait 5 more years to get a decent adaptation rather than this, I would. |
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| I think the episodes have been solid despite the lower looming budget. |
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I think the episodes have been solid despite the lower looming budget.
| @rohan121 This is not at all a problem of "lower looming budget", specially when industry professionals mentioned before that Netflix pays a large sum for licensing. This was just not a priority for TMS when it comes to their resource management. A director that's a bizarre choice for an action-heavy series, a major lack of real noteworthy names outside of the action designers/directors, staff that mostly comes from Fruits Basket... |
Reply to rohan121
I think the episodes have been solid despite the lower looming budget.
| @rohan121 This is not at all a problem of "lower looming budget", specially when industry professionals mentioned before that Netflix pays a large sum for licensing. This was just not a priority for TMS when it comes to their resource management. A director that's a bizarre choice for an action-heavy series, a major lack of real noteworthy names outside of the action designers/directors, staff that mostly comes from Fruits Basket... |
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