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ranpoisthecutest said:
I love Sanemi but I cannot like Obanai even we learned his past or his love to Mitsuri. He’s a bad person. You can’t prove me he’s depressed. His style is also bad. Another hashira I hate is Tengen. He’s such a jerk, he has 3 wives come to reality please! He thinks that he’s a god. His personality is better than Obanai but I hate him too. I also hate Mitsuri, she’s a uwu chan girl who’s searching for a husband wth. She’s so pick me. Yeah she’s strong but not make me like her. I love the rest. My favs are Sanemi and Rengoku. Yea that’s all.

Nah blud said Tengen is a jerk because he has 3 wives, fam is jealous fr 🗿
Oct 30, 2024 9:37 PM
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what did even my homie sanemi do to be the most disliked 😶‍🌫️
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LvB46 said:
Shinobu, and it's not close. I don't hate her, but I really dislike her. I don't like her design, I don't like how she acts and I don't like what she does in the Infinity Castle.

couldn't agree more with this fam
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RjRaj said:
ranpoisthecutest said:
I love Sanemi but I cannot like Obanai even we learned his past or his love to Mitsuri. He’s a bad person. You can’t prove me he’s depressed. His style is also bad. Another hashira I hate is Tengen. He’s such a jerk, he has 3 wives come to reality please! He thinks that he’s a god. His personality is better than Obanai but I hate him too. I also hate Mitsuri, she’s a uwu chan girl who’s searching for a husband wth. She’s so pick me. Yeah she’s strong but not make me like her. I love the rest. My favs are Sanemi and Rengoku. Yea that’s all.

Nah blud said Tengen is a jerk because he has 3 wives, fam is jealous fr 🗿

That’s not the only reason I hate him. His personality was weird for me when I first watched second season. I couldn’t like him even now
Oct 30, 2024 10:27 PM
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ranpoisthecutest said:
RjRaj said:

Nah blud said Tengen is a jerk because he has 3 wives, fam is jealous fr 🗿

That’s not the only reason I hate him. His personality was weird for me when I first watched second season. I couldn’t like him even now

that's a you problem, PPL loved him including myself since he first showed up in ep 22. there's something about him that draws PPL, maybe his flashiness or his physic.
Oct 31, 2024 2:01 AM
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For context Tengen and Obani are my absolute favorites. Giyu would have to be my least favorite. My reason for him being my least favorite is honestly just because hes not as cool to me as the others.
Oct 31, 2024 5:48 AM
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For me, Sanemi is my least favorite only because he’s just so mean 😂😂.
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what did even my homie sanemi do to be the most disliked 😶‍🌫️
@RjRaj what didn't he do? he's an angry dick who treats his brother like shit (as a manga reader, i understand why, but still).
Oct 31, 2024 11:38 PM
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z0ntzooit said:
@RjRaj what didn't he do? he's an angry dick who treats his brother like shit (as a manga reader, i understand why, but still).

well that doesn't justify all the smoke he's getting, even I hate my little brother that mf is annoying asf. I bet those who are hating are the ones that can't get over the fact that what he did the first time seeing nezuko
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Obanai, mostly because anime-wise, he's kind of the one we know the least about. Not really much going for him other than he wants to bang Mitsuri. That, and from what we can see for now at least, he seems to be quite full of himself. Like we have Sanemi who's a loud angry dude, but I feel like even he'd be more humble than Obanai when he needs to be.

Also Rengoku has the least amount of votes which you'd probably expect, but I'm still surprised that 30 people so far have voted for him. Like to each his own, but really man??


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Nov 1, 2024 12:07 AM
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this whole thread feels like "oh not to be offensive or anything, *proceeds to be offensive*"
Nov 1, 2024 7:36 AM
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I don't like Obanai's personality, and I hated the way Tengen treated the Aoi and the other Kocho sisters in season 2!
Nov 2, 2024 5:38 AM
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People are actually voting Rengoku...
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Okay, I don’t hate any of the Hashira, but my least liked if I were to rank them, would be Sanemi. I don’t have a particular reason for disliking him, I just don’t like him as much as the rest
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z0ntzooit said:
@RjRaj what didn't he do? he's an angry dick who treats his brother like shit (as a manga reader, i understand why, but still).

well that doesn't justify all the smoke he's getting, even I hate my little brother that mf is annoying asf. I bet those who are hating are the ones that can't get over the fact that what he did the first time seeing nezuko
@RjRaj bro what? that definitely does justify it. the other hashiras have a far more kindhearted personality than sanemi... and that would explain why he's voted least favorite
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i don't hate no hashira, but I don't like Shinobi the most, I just feel like she didn't really have a purpose in the infinite castle arc, but what she did was smart, I just felt like she would die either way, so what's the point?
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I love them all but Tengen, and this stems from the community ruining his image. They act like he’s literally Jesus

Saying bs like he’s incredibly strong and other stupid stuff I won’t go into.
@Phantom_Siren652 It's simply being re-evaluated because it was very underestimated by the community only for having exited the scene too early due to false positions put by power climbers who had not fully understood the strength of the character, in reality it's nice to know that it's being re-evaluated, since Tengen really is a very strong pillar much more than others
Dec 21, 2024 6:32 PM
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@Kaze1214 While there's not technically an official list tengen is argued by the people who actually have logic to be the weakest/second weakest Hashira. The only truly confirmed thing is that Gyomei is number 1 and Sanemi is number 2.

Im not saying Tengen is weak im saying compared to the other hashira he's weak. I mean Tenegn even knows this himself talking about How people like Rengoku, Muichiro or Gyomei are way more impressive.

And Tengen had help of 3 others (5 if you count Nezuko and Tengen's wife) yet he still survived death by pure luck (Honestly him surviving that fight was complete bs). Then you've got many other Hashira who can handle upper moons at a higher rank alone and sure eventually they'll get overwhelmed its an upper moon. But they display far better skills.

As for his speed that's merely one factor but yes he does have that over the others. Idk about being the most agile though.

But again im not calling him weak. Im just saying the other Hashira are far more impressive.
@Phantom_Siren652 I would like you to reconsider your point of view on Tengen, sorry for the very long message but it is necessary if I want to argue well because I consider Tengen one of the best

The only real confirmation we have is only Gyomei who is the strongest and if we want Shinobu who is the worst among the hashira, Sanemi is not confirmed as the 2nd strongest but it is a widely shared opinion that at the end of the manga she deserves the 2nd position (but this is also because people like Rengoku or Tengen have not managed to unlock the other power ups otherwise there would have been a difference of opinion on this too)

Speaking of Tengen's strength, I am one who argues that he deserves much more recognition than the fandom associates him with. Starting from the fact that the demon slayer fights are not like in dragon ball, that is, if you beat someone you are not stronger than someone else, since the powers of the demons have different abilities to exploit that can advantage or disadvantage the hashira they are facing: for example, Sanemi proves to be better than Tomioka, but against Akaza Sanemi would be a worse fighter because given his high fighting spirit, it would be easier for Akaza to predict his moves...

The same goes for Gyutaro and Tengen, Tengen was the best hashira that could face Gyutaro since Gyutaro's danger was precisely in his poison which is one of the most lethal in the verse and Tengen had the physique and skills to resist it longer than any other hashira (except Gyomei maybe), if you take for example Obanai or Muichiro they would have died very quickly since their small body would make the poison spread faster and they have no resistance to poisons.

That said it's still impressive that Tengen was able to hold his own against Gyutaro despite being weakened by the poison, Tengen even says that the poison was his main obstacle in the battle since it was draining his strength, he even has to stop his heart to prevent the poison from circulating... now imagine Tengen had he not been nerfed by the poison he would have definitely won without any help considering that without the poison he could use his maximum abilities and could hold his own against or surpass Gyutaro long enough to complete his musical score which is a very devastating ability.

Not to mention all the other physical abilities he has more than the other hashira:
-2 physically stronger
-2 more resistant
-1 faster (in movement)
-2 with more experience
-excellent shinobi skills
-excellent swordsman (also confirmed by Rengoku)
-excellent breathing
-super hearing with which he can echolocate enemies
And he uses a large arsenal including 2 very sturdy swords (which in demon slayer make a big difference), explosive bombs, poisoned kunai

Tengen is a full-blown monster, his only disadvantage was that he met someone who poisoned him and we couldn't observe his abilities at their best. Then I would also like to point out that in the battle against Gyutaro, Zenitsu and Inosuke were fighting against Daki, while Tanjiro was not only a help but also a distraction since Tengen saved him several times, while regarding Hinatsuru, I would like to point out that Tengen used all his kunai to save her (which can be deduced from the fact that he didn't use any in the battle with Gyutaro) and that Hinatsuru only returned the favor by creating a favorable moment.

Finally I would also like to point out that he says that Muichiro, Gyomei and Rengoku have more potential than him because as can be seen from Tengen's speeches he still feels resentment for not always being able to save everyone (a bit like Tomioka who underestimates himself because he didn't believe he deserved to be a hashira) but if we look at his profile this thing is very strange, given that Tengen managed to survive a hellish training that killed most of his brothers and then managed to become an excellent demon slayer until reaching the rank of Hashira which he occupied for many years, I would say that Tengen is not less than the others if we look at his potential.

And I think he too would have been able to kill Gyokko quite easily without a mark considering that Gyokko is not a poison that can weaken Tengen and have better feats with Kokushibo equal or superior to Sanemi given his high experience and strength in terms of combat skills.

I hope I managed to make you change your mind even if a little with Tengen
Dec 21, 2024 6:35 PM
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Sanemi Shinazugawa. I get it, he’s very strong and skilful about killing demons, but I do not like his attitude at all. He doesn’t have respect for anything and anyone. He was supposed to help his brother and get along with everyone, but the way he acts it’s too rough.
@OtakuKun1 The problem with the manga is that it doesn't explore Sanemi's character much, I recommend you read its spin off novel entitled: Signs from the Wind, where many of Sanemi's attitudes and behaviors are explored more deeply and you can better understand why Sanemi behaves that way.
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@Phantom_Siren652 I would like you to reconsider your point of view on Tengen, sorry for the very long message but it is necessary if I want to argue well because I consider Tengen one of the best

The only real confirmation we have is only Gyomei who is the strongest and if we want Shinobu who is the worst among the hashira, Sanemi is not confirmed as the 2nd strongest but it is a widely shared opinion that at the end of the manga she deserves the 2nd position (but this is also because people like Rengoku or Tengen have not managed to unlock the other power ups otherwise there would have been a difference of opinion on this too)

Speaking of Tengen's strength, I am one who argues that he deserves much more recognition than the fandom associates him with. Starting from the fact that the demon slayer fights are not like in dragon ball, that is, if you beat someone you are not stronger than someone else, since the powers of the demons have different abilities to exploit that can advantage or disadvantage the hashira they are facing: for example, Sanemi proves to be better than Tomioka, but against Akaza Sanemi would be a worse fighter because given his high fighting spirit, it would be easier for Akaza to predict his moves...

The same goes for Gyutaro and Tengen, Tengen was the best hashira that could face Gyutaro since Gyutaro's danger was precisely in his poison which is one of the most lethal in the verse and Tengen had the physique and skills to resist it longer than any other hashira (except Gyomei maybe), if you take for example Obanai or Muichiro they would have died very quickly since their small body would make the poison spread faster and they have no resistance to poisons.

That said it's still impressive that Tengen was able to hold his own against Gyutaro despite being weakened by the poison, Tengen even says that the poison was his main obstacle in the battle since it was draining his strength, he even has to stop his heart to prevent the poison from circulating... now imagine Tengen had he not been nerfed by the poison he would have definitely won without any help considering that without the poison he could use his maximum abilities and could hold his own against or surpass Gyutaro long enough to complete his musical score which is a very devastating ability.

Not to mention all the other physical abilities he has more than the other hashira:
-2 physically stronger
-2 more resistant
-1 faster (in movement)
-2 with more experience
-excellent shinobi skills
-excellent swordsman (also confirmed by Rengoku)
-excellent breathing
-super hearing with which he can echolocate enemies
And he uses a large arsenal including 2 very sturdy swords (which in demon slayer make a big difference), explosive bombs, poisoned kunai

Tengen is a full-blown monster, his only disadvantage was that he met someone who poisoned him and we couldn't observe his abilities at their best. Then I would also like to point out that in the battle against Gyutaro, Zenitsu and Inosuke were fighting against Daki, while Tanjiro was not only a help but also a distraction since Tengen saved him several times, while regarding Hinatsuru, I would like to point out that Tengen used all his kunai to save her (which can be deduced from the fact that he didn't use any in the battle with Gyutaro) and that Hinatsuru only returned the favor by creating a favorable moment.

Finally I would also like to point out that he says that Muichiro, Gyomei and Rengoku have more potential than him because as can be seen from Tengen's speeches he still feels resentment for not always being able to save everyone (a bit like Tomioka who underestimates himself because he didn't believe he deserved to be a hashira) but if we look at his profile this thing is very strange, given that Tengen managed to survive a hellish training that killed most of his brothers and then managed to become an excellent demon slayer until reaching the rank of Hashira which he occupied for many years, I would say that Tengen is not less than the others if we look at his potential.

And I think he too would have been able to kill Gyokko quite easily without a mark considering that Gyokko is not a poison that can weaken Tengen and have better feats with Kokushibo equal or superior to Sanemi given his high experience and strength in terms of combat skills.

I hope I managed to make you change your mind even if a little with Tengen
@SeventeenJebs If you want to read why I consider Tengen one of the strongest and let me know your opinion, I would be happy to hear it.
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@Phantom_Siren652 I would like you to reconsider your point of view on Tengen, sorry for the very long message but it is necessary if I want to argue well because I consider Tengen one of the best

The only real confirmation we have is only Gyomei who is the strongest and if we want Shinobu who is the worst among the hashira, Sanemi is not confirmed as the 2nd strongest but it is a widely shared opinion that at the end of the manga she deserves the 2nd position (but this is also because people like Rengoku or Tengen have not managed to unlock the other power ups otherwise there would have been a difference of opinion on this too)

Speaking of Tengen's strength, I am one who argues that he deserves much more recognition than the fandom associates him with. Starting from the fact that the demon slayer fights are not like in dragon ball, that is, if you beat someone you are not stronger than someone else, since the powers of the demons have different abilities to exploit that can advantage or disadvantage the hashira they are facing: for example, Sanemi proves to be better than Tomioka, but against Akaza Sanemi would be a worse fighter because given his high fighting spirit, it would be easier for Akaza to predict his moves...

The same goes for Gyutaro and Tengen, Tengen was the best hashira that could face Gyutaro since Gyutaro's danger was precisely in his poison which is one of the most lethal in the verse and Tengen had the physique and skills to resist it longer than any other hashira (except Gyomei maybe), if you take for example Obanai or Muichiro they would have died very quickly since their small body would make the poison spread faster and they have no resistance to poisons.

That said it's still impressive that Tengen was able to hold his own against Gyutaro despite being weakened by the poison, Tengen even says that the poison was his main obstacle in the battle since it was draining his strength, he even has to stop his heart to prevent the poison from circulating... now imagine Tengen had he not been nerfed by the poison he would have definitely won without any help considering that without the poison he could use his maximum abilities and could hold his own against or surpass Gyutaro long enough to complete his musical score which is a very devastating ability.

Not to mention all the other physical abilities he has more than the other hashira:
-2 physically stronger
-2 more resistant
-1 faster (in movement)
-2 with more experience
-excellent shinobi skills
-excellent swordsman (also confirmed by Rengoku)
-excellent breathing
-super hearing with which he can echolocate enemies
And he uses a large arsenal including 2 very sturdy swords (which in demon slayer make a big difference), explosive bombs, poisoned kunai

Tengen is a full-blown monster, his only disadvantage was that he met someone who poisoned him and we couldn't observe his abilities at their best. Then I would also like to point out that in the battle against Gyutaro, Zenitsu and Inosuke were fighting against Daki, while Tanjiro was not only a help but also a distraction since Tengen saved him several times, while regarding Hinatsuru, I would like to point out that Tengen used all his kunai to save her (which can be deduced from the fact that he didn't use any in the battle with Gyutaro) and that Hinatsuru only returned the favor by creating a favorable moment.

Finally I would also like to point out that he says that Muichiro, Gyomei and Rengoku have more potential than him because as can be seen from Tengen's speeches he still feels resentment for not always being able to save everyone (a bit like Tomioka who underestimates himself because he didn't believe he deserved to be a hashira) but if we look at his profile this thing is very strange, given that Tengen managed to survive a hellish training that killed most of his brothers and then managed to become an excellent demon slayer until reaching the rank of Hashira which he occupied for many years, I would say that Tengen is not less than the others if we look at his potential.

And I think he too would have been able to kill Gyokko quite easily without a mark considering that Gyokko is not a poison that can weaken Tengen and have better feats with Kokushibo equal or superior to Sanemi given his high experience and strength in terms of combat skills.

I hope I managed to make you change your mind even if a little with Tengen
@Phantom_Siren652 If you want to read why I consider Tengen one of the strongest and let me know your opinion, I would be happy to hear it.
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@Jurn56 i read the manga and still put sanemi last. yes he had some last minute character development, but that doesn't suddenly cancel out the fact that he's been an asshole throughout every arc. why was he was a dick to tanjiro and and giyu for no valid reason??

most importantly i hated the way he treated genya, i understand his intentions but he could've approached it in a different manner. also >>
@z0ntzooit I recommend you read the spin-off novel titled: Signs from the Wind, where many of Sanemi's attitudes and behaviors are explored more deeply and you can better understand why Sanemi behaves the way she does, especially her point of view on Genya, it builds up really well why she behaves like an asshole with him and even if you don't accept it you can understand it deep down
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ForlornBeliever said:
The fact that Rengoku has any votes is saddening

I know right?

I get that he didn't make a good first impression but he definitely redeemed himself in the mugen train, plus he grew on me after a while
@Ramir0 Rengoku has a great charisma and redeemed himself in Mugen Train, but he is not without blemishes unlike other characters like Mitsuri or Gyu, I would just like to point out that Rengoku was the first hashira who proposed the death of Tanjiro and Nezuko without wanting to give them a trial, and although Nezuko's death is understandable on certain aspects, wanting the death of a child like Tanjiro is very serious considering also what the character should represent... for Obanai, Gyomei, Tengen and Sanemi instead it was understandable seeing the characters
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@Phantom_Siren652 I would like you to reconsider your point of view on Tengen, sorry for the very long message but it is necessary if I want to argue well because I consider Tengen one of the best

The only real confirmation we have is only Gyomei who is the strongest and if we want Shinobu who is the worst among the hashira, Sanemi is not confirmed as the 2nd strongest but it is a widely shared opinion that at the end of the manga she deserves the 2nd position (but this is also because people like Rengoku or Tengen have not managed to unlock the other power ups otherwise there would have been a difference of opinion on this too)

Speaking of Tengen's strength, I am one who argues that he deserves much more recognition than the fandom associates him with. Starting from the fact that the demon slayer fights are not like in dragon ball, that is, if you beat someone you are not stronger than someone else, since the powers of the demons have different abilities to exploit that can advantage or disadvantage the hashira they are facing: for example, Sanemi proves to be better than Tomioka, but against Akaza Sanemi would be a worse fighter because given his high fighting spirit, it would be easier for Akaza to predict his moves...

The same goes for Gyutaro and Tengen, Tengen was the best hashira that could face Gyutaro since Gyutaro's danger was precisely in his poison which is one of the most lethal in the verse and Tengen had the physique and skills to resist it longer than any other hashira (except Gyomei maybe), if you take for example Obanai or Muichiro they would have died very quickly since their small body would make the poison spread faster and they have no resistance to poisons.

That said it's still impressive that Tengen was able to hold his own against Gyutaro despite being weakened by the poison, Tengen even says that the poison was his main obstacle in the battle since it was draining his strength, he even has to stop his heart to prevent the poison from circulating... now imagine Tengen had he not been nerfed by the poison he would have definitely won without any help considering that without the poison he could use his maximum abilities and could hold his own against or surpass Gyutaro long enough to complete his musical score which is a very devastating ability.

Not to mention all the other physical abilities he has more than the other hashira:
-2 physically stronger
-2 more resistant
-1 faster (in movement)
-2 with more experience
-excellent shinobi skills
-excellent swordsman (also confirmed by Rengoku)
-excellent breathing
-super hearing with which he can echolocate enemies
And he uses a large arsenal including 2 very sturdy swords (which in demon slayer make a big difference), explosive bombs, poisoned kunai

Tengen is a full-blown monster, his only disadvantage was that he met someone who poisoned him and we couldn't observe his abilities at their best. Then I would also like to point out that in the battle against Gyutaro, Zenitsu and Inosuke were fighting against Daki, while Tanjiro was not only a help but also a distraction since Tengen saved him several times, while regarding Hinatsuru, I would like to point out that Tengen used all his kunai to save her (which can be deduced from the fact that he didn't use any in the battle with Gyutaro) and that Hinatsuru only returned the favor by creating a favorable moment.

Finally I would also like to point out that he says that Muichiro, Gyomei and Rengoku have more potential than him because as can be seen from Tengen's speeches he still feels resentment for not always being able to save everyone (a bit like Tomioka who underestimates himself because he didn't believe he deserved to be a hashira) but if we look at his profile this thing is very strange, given that Tengen managed to survive a hellish training that killed most of his brothers and then managed to become an excellent demon slayer until reaching the rank of Hashira which he occupied for many years, I would say that Tengen is not less than the others if we look at his potential.

And I think he too would have been able to kill Gyokko quite easily without a mark considering that Gyokko is not a poison that can weaken Tengen and have better feats with Kokushibo equal or superior to Sanemi given his high experience and strength in terms of combat skills.

I hope I managed to make you change your mind even if a little with Tengen

I honestly didn't think I'd be able to read all that but I did and I have to say well done 👏. You managed to make an excellent argument without offending anyone, plus tengen is my second favorite hashira so it's nice to see him get some recognition
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I don't have a least favorite but if I were to choose...Kyojuro.

Compared to the other Hashira he just seems rather...generic and bland. But I still like him a lot.
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