King Floch's Birthday🥳

Your average yaegerist. You know it makes sense though.

I hate him sm and he's literally the reason hange died sooo

respectfully disagreed , I don't think isayama characterised any of his characters as "villains" Or "heroes" , rather the fact that they are just different viewpoints to a situation. But many writers do approach characters with their villain and hero thing which I'm not a fan of. I only used a reversal to say if floch haters have liked a character which is subjectively considered to be a "bad guy" (a villain) It's so boring to generalize character's and not understanding their respective! They represent human nature , theres so much to learn from these morally gray characters, youll appreciate them more once you recognize each human is capeable of doing the same ,much more interesting than the same old character who conforms to subjective morals.Same old bs approach that would be. So in short you misunderstood me.

Floch is a top 5 in AoT in terms of writing. Very underrated character.

wow we are glorifying ultra nationalist far right characters now huh lol

@vinnywizanime I understand Floch well, he's a "kill or get killed" character, someone who doesn't believe in peaceful conflict resolution, and that's pretty much it, hardly anything else to learn from him. Such characters aren't anything new and neither are they inherently appreciable.

@Zarutaku I feel you misunderstood me and this isnt the first time. Hardly anything to learn from him? You see but do not observe mate , whos saying floch teaches us to be like him rather the fact that he can be a precautionary tale for us and the fact that the world can turn someone to like this is a lesson that if we faced similar circumstances we would be like him, dont try to boost your ego or validate your self image by characterizing floch seperate from the rest of us as a wannabe nazi. Dont get me completely wrong, floch can give positive lessons as well , the floch of s3 teaches a lot about questioning your superiors.

You keep babbling mate. Huh, the human tendency to boost their own self-image by separating other supposedly "bad" humans from them (huh "I'll never be like them bcz I be different from them") . Let's talk about flochs experiences then , don't tell me you won't be like him if you faced similar circumstances, if you do believe you won't, then I'm sorry you seem like an insecure self validating person trying to convince himself he's a really good guy.

Whatever floch does or anyone does is not objectively wrong. But obv humans will stick to their inter subjective morals , floch can be a message that how war and repression can turn someone to a rebel for his country.

Floch haters ive seen are some of the most close minded and boring....

Ironic how you're doing the exact same thing by putting yourself above Floch haters.

So you defend Floch for sticking to his intersubjective morals, but criticize me for sticking to my intersubjective morals? Alright...

@Zarutaku This is very obviously not what i meant dude, i never defended floch for his intersubjective morals , honestly thats not how floch sees it i think , if you understand floch he doesnt actually think what hes doing is right, thats why he calls himself a DEVIL and the otehr yeagerists as well, thats why he called erwin a devil. Floch knew that eldia needed a leader who was a devil , someone willing to get their hands dirty, so he became one himself, many call him self-righteous but floch is self admittedly a DEVIL so yeah dude, you dont understand the story well at all, first you called him a villain which isayama wouldnt consider at all, its all perspective. Try to understand the story and the characters more bro and then argue.

So, how isn't Floch a bad guy aka villain if even he himself admitted being a devil?