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I read this novel entirely from Japanese. It is really good. Ask me everything you want to know.
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Is Shikiya still best girl?
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Just started the anime.
Will there be any romantic development between mc and any of the girls ?
If yes, can you please tell me how soon that's going to happen ?
Thanks in advance
My_Brain_TrembleJul 14, 2024 10:49 AM
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Just started the anime.
Will there be any romantic development between mc and any of the girls ?
If yes, can you please tell me how soon that's going to happen ?
Thanks in advance
@My_Brain_Tremble No. There is nothing as of Vol.6 apart from some VERY vague hints and implications. That's partly why the LNs rating is the way it is (almost 7). People are kinda hyping up the anime but there is nothing involving him. He is pretty much the wailing wall for the girls to dump their traumas on to. MC is also severely dense which is funny since the story tries to come across as some sort of deconstruction but still uses the biggest and nestiest trope of them all to stall progress. The cluless MC
RaafalgaJul 14, 2024 10:34 AM
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@My_Brain_Tremble No. There is nothing as of Vol.6 apart from some VERY vague hints and implications. That's partly why the LNs rating is the way it is (almost 7). People are kinda hyping up the anime but there is nothing involving him. He is pretty much the wailing wall for the girls to dump their traumas on to. MC is also severely dense which is funny since the story tries to come across as some sort of deconstruction but still uses the biggest and nestiest trope of them all to stall progress. The cluless MC
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Wow really didn't expected that, after watching first episode didn't expected clueless MC trope would plague this anime.
Jul 14, 2024 1:01 PM
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Is Shikiya still best girl?
@TowaEnjoyer If you talk romantically, yes.
Jul 14, 2024 1:02 PM
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Just started the anime.
Will there be any romantic development between mc and any of the girls ?
If yes, can you please tell me how soon that's going to happen ?
Thanks in advance
@My_Brain_Tremble just as Raafalga said, the story isn't focused on Nukumizu's romantic life by now. Let's see what will happen in volume 7.
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@My_Brain_Tremble No. There is nothing as of Vol.6 apart from some VERY vague hints and implications. That's partly why the LNs rating is the way it is (almost 7). People are kinda hyping up the anime but there is nothing involving him. He is pretty much the wailing wall for the girls to dump their traumas on to. MC is also severely dense which is funny since the story tries to come across as some sort of deconstruction but still uses the biggest and nestiest trope of them all to stall progress. The cluless MC
@Raafalga It's a good news for me actually. I like that the MC is a sort of confident but not a savior or a future love interest. That is what definitely gives this story its personality.
I hope that if he finaly grow sentiments for someone, it'll be with a completely different girl altogether.
Jul 16, 2024 9:19 AM
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@Raafalga It's a good news for me actually. I like that the MC is a sort of confident but not a savior or a future love interest. That is what definitely gives this story its personality.
I hope that if he finaly grow sentiments for someone, it'll be with a completely different girl altogether.
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it'll be with a completely different girl altogether.


This is a sentiment shared by many for multiple reasons. Main cast of the girls are entire comprised of rejected heroines. And it was not a wishy washy confession for them either. For most it was the love of their lives (well highschoolers but still) so it shouldn't be so easy to get over it than fall in love with the MC. It would cheapen the premise immensely.

But MC himself is also discovering his emotions in the meantime (he act like a robot with no agency during majority of the story if we are being honest. He just gets dragged around by the girls.). So delaying his progression in order to wait for the girls to get over their rejections is very unfair to him. There is no much chemisty going on with the main cast anyway aside from standard banter which people usually quick to mistake with chemisty.
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it'll be with a completely different girl altogether.


This is a sentiment shared by many for multiple reasons. Main cast of the girls are entire comprised of rejected heroines. And it was not a wishy washy confession for them either. For most it was the love of their lives (well highschoolers but still) so it shouldn't be so easy to get over it than fall in love with the MC. It would cheapen the premise immensely.

But MC himself is also discovering his emotions in the meantime (he act like a robot with no agency during majority of the story if we are being honest. He just gets dragged around by the girls.). So delaying his progression in order to wait for the girls to get over their rejections is very unfair to him. There is no much chemisty going on with the main cast anyway aside from standard banter which people usually quick to mistake with chemisty.
@Raafalga @rvdboom This obviously won't happen because Anna is the more than obvious main love interest of the show from the very beginning. Regardless of people's attempts at wishful thinking for the sake of their own expectations from the series. But I agree that it is not romance in the full sense of the word, although people desperately did not believe me despite the author's direct statement about it.
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@Raafalga @rvdboom This obviously won't happen because Anna is the more than obvious main love interest of the show from the very beginning. Regardless of people's attempts at wishful thinking for the sake of their own expectations from the series. But I agree that it is not romance in the full sense of the word, although people desperately did not believe me despite the author's direct statement about it.
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@RobertBobert So what you're saying is that the story will have the most predictable outcome, because that's what the majority of the audience wants to happen and the author will follow their demand?
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@RobertBobert So what you're saying is that the story will have the most predictable outcome, because that's what the majority of the audience wants to happen and the author will follow their demand?
@Zarutaku Where exactly am I talking about this?
Aug 16, 2024 9:50 AM

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@Zarutaku Where exactly am I talking about this?
@RobertBobert I implied it from these statements:

RobertBobert said:
This obviously won't happen because Anna is the more than obvious main love interest of the show from the very beginning.
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The author creates the drama that Anna needs to outgrow in order to eventually achieve romantic happiness with the MC at the very end of the story

and they read like the most obvious outcome will be the final outcome.
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@RobertBobert I implied it from these statements:

RobertBobert said:
This obviously won't happen because Anna is the more than obvious main love interest of the show from the very beginning.
RobertBobert said:
The author creates the drama that Anna needs to outgrow in order to eventually achieve romantic happiness with the MC at the very end of the story

and they read like the most obvious outcome will be the final outcome.
@Zarutaku So just based on Anna being the MC's obvious main love interest from the start, you've concluded that the author did it out of fan coercion? Where is the connection?
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@Zarutaku So just based on Anna being the MC's obvious main love interest from the start, you've concluded that the author did it out of fan coercion? Where is the connection?
@RobertBobert Because that's what most authors usually do to not disappoint the main audience.
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Aug 16, 2024 9:57 AM

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@RobertBobert Because that's what most authors usually do to not disappoint the main audience.
@Zarutaku She was the main love interest FROM THE BEGINNING. Did the fans force the author to make her like this even before the story began?
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@Zarutaku She was the main love interest FROM THE BEGINNING. Did the fans force the author to make her like this even before the story began?
@RobertBobert Never said force, but it seems he decided to follow the natural demand from the beginning. It's not that hard to predict how the main audience wants the outcome to be, even at the beginning of the writing process. Not criticizing him though, I was just curious if the obvious will happen or not, and ended up here.
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@RobertBobert Never said force, but it seems he decided to follow the natural demand from the beginning. It's not that hard to predict how the main audience wants the outcome to be, even at the beginning of the writing process. Not criticizing him though, I was just curious if the obvious will happen or not, and ended up here.
@Zarutaku With this logic, you can blame any author whose work does not bring some super unexpected plot twists. Which I think is excessive.
Aug 16, 2024 10:31 AM

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@Zarutaku With this logic, you can blame any author whose work does not bring some super unexpected plot twists. Which I think is excessive.
@RobertBobert Not blaming him, I just got my hopes up for an unconventional ending, because the premise is also rather unconventional.
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@RobertBobert Not blaming him, I just got my hopes up for an unconventional ending, because the premise is also rather unconventional.
@Zarutaku Well, one thing doesn’t interfere with the other, right? You're not one of those people who thinks it's cliche even if the protagonist is human or if the fantasy takes place in the Middle Ages, are you?
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@Zarutaku Well, one thing doesn’t interfere with the other, right? You're not one of those people who thinks it's cliche even if the protagonist is human or if the fantasy takes place in the Middle Ages, are you?
@RobertBobert Wdym? The premise doesn't interfere with the ending? Protagonists being human or humanoid is kind of necessary in most cases, but middle age fantasy settings are certainly cliche by now, they don't bother me though.
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@RobertBobert Wdym? The premise doesn't interfere with the ending? Protagonists being human or humanoid is kind of necessary in most cases, but middle age fantasy settings are certainly cliche by now, they don't bother me though.
@Zarutaku What I'm saying is that lately a lot of people have been really misrepresenting the idea of ​​originality, attacking anime with accusations of unoriginality even if a show is simply true to its genre.
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@Zarutaku What I'm saying is that lately a lot of people have been really misrepresenting the idea of ​​originality, attacking anime with accusations of unoriginality even if a show is simply true to its genre.
@RobertBobert The premise is certainly original, but the probable ending wouldn't be, even if that sounds like harsh criticism it's just my disappointment.
I mean it's not like a romance show, where the protagonist doesn't end up with the most obvious love interest, couldn't be true to its genre, am I wrong?
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@RobertBobert The premise is certainly original, but the probable ending wouldn't be, even if that sounds like harsh criticism it's just my disappointment.
I mean it's not like a romance show, where the protagonist doesn't end up with the most obvious love interest, couldn't be true to its genre, am I wrong?
@Zarutaku I still don't understand why this show can't end with Anna as his love interest? What will this change other than your personal expectations? The author explicitly said that the show is not about romance.
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@Zarutaku I still don't understand why this show can't end with Anna as his love interest? What will this change other than your personal expectations? The author explicitly said that the show is not about romance.
@RobertBobert It can end like that, I just think it would be too conventional for this unconventional story.
Didn't know the author doesn't see it as a romance, I just see it being labeled as a romcom everywhere, so I had to assume it's about romance.
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@RobertBobert It can end like that, I just think it would be too conventional for this unconventional story.
Didn't know the author doesn't see it as a romance, I just see it being labeled as a romcom everywhere, so I had to assume it's about romance.
@Zarutaku You could see from the beginning that Anna is the central female character of the story and that the other girls don't view MC as a love interest. I think you've overestimated how "unconventional" the story wants to be.

People also call it a harem, although this contradicts the very idea of ​​the title.
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@Zarutaku You could see from the beginning that Anna is the central female character of the story and that the other girls don't view MC as a love interest. I think you've overestimated how "unconventional" the story wants to be.

People also call it a harem, although this contradicts the very idea of ​​the title.
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I think you've overestimated how "unconventional" the story wants to be.
Probably

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People also call it a harem, although this contradicts the very idea of ​​the title.
It's obviously an anti-harem because the girls around the male protagonist are romantically interested in other guys instead of him.
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I think you've overestimated how "unconventional" the story wants to be.
Probably

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People also call it a harem, although this contradicts the very idea of ​​the title.
It's obviously an anti-harem because the girls around the male protagonist are romantically interested in other guys instead of him.
@Zarutaku Anti-harem or no anti-harem, the author directly stated that the work will not focus on romance, so as not to chew on the emotional suffering of the girls. If you imagine that this is a harem, then the girls will expectedly have to lose again and... well, you understand where this will lead.
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@Zarutaku Anti-harem or no anti-harem, the author directly stated that the work will not focus on romance, so as not to chew on the emotional suffering of the girls. If you imagine that this is a harem, then the girls will expectedly have to lose again and... well, you understand where this will lead.
@RobertBobert Well, LN has other girls showing obvious interest in Nuku as well so someone WILL lose again in the end which is pretty meh in terms of story telling for this kind of story imo. Best outcome for me would be that he doesn't end up with anyone and find his own heroine.

Author made it a point for Nuku that he believes "you need several years of friendship before going out" at the very start of the story so i don't think we will see any resaults before the last page of the last chapter of the entire story. Story keeps intruducing new losing heroines anyway so it will be quite a while. How long can it retain readership with the same limbo though, that will remain to be seen.
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@RobertBobert Well, LN has other girls showing obvious interest in Nuku as well so someone WILL lose again in the end which is pretty meh in terms of story telling for this kind of story imo. Best outcome for me would be that he doesn't end up with anyone and find his own heroine.

Author made it a point for Nuku that he believes "you need several years of friendship before going out" at the very start of the story so i don't think we will see any resaults before the last page of the last chapter of the entire story. Story keeps intruducing new losing heroines anyway so it will be quite a while. How long can it retain readership with the same limbo though, that will remain to be seen.
@Raafalga This is all wishful thinking. I know what this is, I've been through it myself a bunch of times while reading other LNs of this type. We either make the plot and the author's intention deeper and more complex (logical) than it actually is, or we expect him to ignore or subvert tropes where everything is very easy to read and follows the formula. Well, maybe except for Masamune-kun Revenge, where the author deliberately deceived the audience by playing on their preferences. On my own behalf, I can only say that interest does not mean active attempts to fight for it with other “challengers”. For example, in Mahouka, 90% of the female cast has an "interest" in Tatsuya, but only 3 or 4 girls are directly trying to become his girlfriend.
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Great vol. Definitely my favorite one so far despite it being a bit short. Lemon really is powerful.
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I liked it. However, I did not like Lemon's emotional assault on Nuku. She basically did everything short of kissing him on their "date" in order to influence him to quit the Lit club, under the implied pretense that they could spend their afternoons together if he did quit. Then she had the gall to propose the bet based on a race he had no chance of winning. Wasn't a fan of the other two girls siding with Lemon, either(especially since Nuku leaving the club would doom it, IMO, as Komari is still too backward to make it work). Nuku fought for the Lit club and Lemon despite these odds. Thank goodness for the Prez to come in clutch to save the day.

Other thoughts:
If Kaju and Asagumo ever teamed up with Konuki-sensei, the school would be a scary place, indeed.... :' )

Kudos for Nuku for noticing Shikiya not wearing her contacts first, although he did notice the "weight" on his back as he piggybacked her back to the house.

A lot of words said above about Nuku being oblivious. I don't think he is. Thoughout the volumes, he's always commenting(to himself) on their looks or the smells of their perfume, makeup, or deoderant. I think he's very in tune with the girls' physical presence. As for what they're thinking, it's a work in progress for him, but he is getting better. With him, it's that he still feels as if he's in a perpetual Friendzone with the girls, that no matter how close he gets personally with them, there is a permanent line that will never be crossed(though Lemon tried to blur it a little this volume.)

I honestly wish he would pursue Prez, though I'm sure he would never do so, since to him she's way beyond him.......
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