| As soon as the kids outside started singing with the slow motion shots I knew something was off, I even started guessing the place might be rigged full with explosives as one of the common most obvious hypothetical scenarios, and I don't feel that it's something that requires too many points in one's INT stat Yet, for some unexplicable reason, I've seen in like 90% of video reactions on youtube people fully believing it's Muzan blowing the entire place up at that moment, at least until they see his roasted ass flying, while for some it doesn't click until the subs literally spell it out How can this be? I've never seen such a high percentage of people getting confused at such a simple anime scene, it's like a concentrated mass brainfart incident happened, some sort of glitch in reality -Muzan never showcased any such powers -Muzan himself is in the middle of the explosion, taking unnecessary damage -Before the explosion, Muzan prepares his hand and fingernails to kill them as per usual methods Etc. Etc. Etc. It's akin to seeing Vegeta sacrifice himself up against Majin Buu and going like "dammm that fat sob just blew him up with his tongue!" It's as if, after Code Geass' ending, someone went "aha I knew this mofo Lelouch was selfish and just wanted to rule the world, he got what was coming for him!" It's like claiming Koro Sensei got caught fair and square Basically, it makes absolutely no fok'n sense on many different levels |
| Yeah, it ain't that deep. People are just dumb and have no media literacy. It requires some sort of special skill to not understand something as simple as Demon Slayer. It is pretty obvious, that someone as smart as Ubuyashiki wouldn't just allow a literal Muzan without any plan. |
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Reply to mi_hunter
Your points don't make sense. A lot of things Muzan can do we never saw before this ep. Also, people never thought that explosion would have happened. I don't see the problem with that.
However, I need to agree with the people that needed the subtitles to understand what happened, that's just bad interpretation.
However, I need to agree with the people that needed the subtitles to understand what happened, that's just bad interpretation.
| @mi_hunter It's one point out of many, and it also makes sense Anything that Muzan has been shown to be capable of actually fits within the kind of demonic powers of the verse Suddenly having the ability to make an entire place like that explode, with the explosions themselves resembling actual physical explosives, coming from below the floors and from multiple spots at the same time, with caltrops being present from the start as well (so now we would also need to add item conjuring to his powers) would be nothing short of a ridiculous ass pull, let alone how dumb of a move it would've been if you take into consideration all the points together |
| I will admit that I was among the folks that mistook the explosion for Muzan’s attack at first, yes in retrospect it was silly to think that, but I guess Muzan was just that hyped up that I didn’t think blowing up a mansion was too much for him to be capable of lol |
| lol different people have different perspective i guess |
| I thought this was the cleverest sequence of scenes in the entire series, as it was a good bit of bait and switch that misdirected the audience, and it made some otherwise inconsequential supporting characters surge in narrative importance and gave a very good reason as to why they were leading a battalion of swordsmen, when there was previously little reason as to why that hierarchy was the way it was. That said, the dialogue was a bit stilted and the aftermath explanation from Muzan himself was the equivalent of explaining a joke. This anime has an unsavory habit of telling things that could simply be shown. |
| People are just slow really that’s all there is to it |
Reply to ktg
I think not being misled is more stupid in this case than being misled. Because it means that the viewer didn't understand Muzan at all.
Every time when Muzan killed someone, it was overkill and messy. So blowing up the whole place, even himself would have been an in-character thing to do. Like blowing up the person and his whole family who was chasing him and trying to kill him. It is supposed to be a huge victory for him.
Not having a technique like this is a bad argument, because we don't know his techniques. We didn't even know that beheading him is ineffective.
Even Gyutaro had a large scale attack that destroyed most of the Entertainment district and he was only upper 6.
Every time when Muzan killed someone, it was overkill and messy. So blowing up the whole place, even himself would have been an in-character thing to do. Like blowing up the person and his whole family who was chasing him and trying to kill him. It is supposed to be a huge victory for him.
Not having a technique like this is a bad argument, because we don't know his techniques. We didn't even know that beheading him is ineffective.
Even Gyutaro had a large scale attack that destroyed most of the Entertainment district and he was only upper 6.
| @ktg Holy copium π Getting confused in the heat of the moment (no pun intended) is a little bit embarrassing, given the absurdity of what it would imply... But trying to claim it's "less stupid" than the correct thought process, while thinking Muzan has some low tier Dragon Ball character ki powers just because he brutally oneshotted some randoms in the past, is some next level delusion Ah yes, lemme prepare my pointy ass nails and get closer to Ubuyashiki just so I can nuke the entire place π Damn bud c'mon, put the denial aside and try to give it a few more minutes of thought and effort, obviously high tier Demon Slayer characters can destroy a town, but they have to actually perform and execute physical actions or demon powers that will take their own time to achieve such result, not just some black magic from lifting a hand; understand how such an instantaneous, ranged, caltrops-filled, high yield explosion happening simultaneously all over the place (so not even from one source/point like Muzan... It's almost as thou it obviously resembles the entire area being full of connected explosives that got detonated π) makes absolutely no sense for anyone in this verse to have as an available power (and not as a giant trap requiring a lot of physical resources and preparation) for what it would imply for the anime as someone else pointed out in this thread You can do it |
ShinjeezJul 1, 11:32 PM
mi_hunter said: Your points don't make sense. A lot of things Muzan can do we never saw before this ep. Also, people never thought that explosion would have happened. I don't see the problem with that. However, I need to agree with the people that needed the subtitles to understand what happened, that's just bad interpretation. I agree with this. I have no idea what sort of powers Muzan has, he's a demon lord, as this episode explains. until I saw him fried I didn't really know who did it. it is also strange that Ubuyashiki's entire family was sacrificed, after going into his whole family's history and ancestry, it was just not something that I expected to happen. it seemed more reasonable to me that Muzan caused it.. until he says it was all rigged. I didn't really get it until that point. |
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| Youtube reactors are normies with little to no critical thinking skills. |
| Controversial opinions |
| Well I think the scene was done like that. People must have thought Muzan blew the entire place up to eradicate the existence of the entire Ubuyashiki family and his entire mansion to showcase his hatred and destroying everything he has. |
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.  |
| yup i thought muzan blew it up too, don’t roast the poor youtubers i mean, we haven’t seen him much in action yet, and this is what happened: 1. he stuck his palm out 2. boom so i get it |
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| The biggest reason is that it's really easy to forget (at least for me) that the setting is somewhat modern so bombs actually exist in the first place. Also, the only one who looked like they pulled any sort of trigger in that scene was Muzan by stretching his hand. I basically don't remember any of his powers, so I assumed he would've been fine in the explosion until his body was ejected. I assume what actually happened was that Ubuyashiki pulled something under the blankets. The shock of the Snake Hashira last episode also left me with the impression that Muzan's infiltration was a complete surprise to everyone, so I thought Ubuyashiki was also unaware. Lastly, a bomb wouldn't be enough to kill Muzan, so it didn't make sense as a suicide kill unless Ubuyashiki knew in advance and had follow up which also didn't seem like the case because the Hashira only found out due to the Snake Hashira having a good eye. |
Reply to Stefano_onafetS
You're overthinking things. Get a life.
| @Stefano_onafetS Hit a nerve, bud? Try not to stay so mad for too long π |
Reply to Quadruple_Oi
The biggest reason is that it's really easy to forget (at least for me) that the setting is somewhat modern so bombs actually exist in the first place.
Also, the only one who looked like they pulled any sort of trigger in that scene was Muzan by stretching his hand. I basically don't remember any of his powers, so I assumed he would've been fine in the explosion until his body was ejected. I assume what actually happened was that Ubuyashiki pulled something under the blankets.
The shock of the Snake Hashira last episode also left me with the impression that Muzan's infiltration was a complete surprise to everyone, so I thought Ubuyashiki was also unaware.
Lastly, a bomb wouldn't be enough to kill Muzan, so it didn't make sense as a suicide kill unless Ubuyashiki knew in advance and had follow up which also didn't seem like the case because the Hashira only found out due to the Snake Hashira having a good eye.
Also, the only one who looked like they pulled any sort of trigger in that scene was Muzan by stretching his hand. I basically don't remember any of his powers, so I assumed he would've been fine in the explosion until his body was ejected. I assume what actually happened was that Ubuyashiki pulled something under the blankets.
The shock of the Snake Hashira last episode also left me with the impression that Muzan's infiltration was a complete surprise to everyone, so I thought Ubuyashiki was also unaware.
Lastly, a bomb wouldn't be enough to kill Muzan, so it didn't make sense as a suicide kill unless Ubuyashiki knew in advance and had follow up which also didn't seem like the case because the Hashira only found out due to the Snake Hashira having a good eye.
| @Oioioioi1234 Fair points at the start, but they didn't actually know for sure that such a huge explosion wouldn't be enough to kill Muzan, because until that point they hadn't confirmed yet whether it would suffice to cut his neck (aka destroy his head), or if sunlight is absolutely mandatory (like they guessed would probably be the case). Considering they were about to get killed anyway, it was worth a shot, and at the very least still ended up being useful. |
| I thought it was slightly strange, but given that he's halfway omnipotent I just thought "wow, Michael Jackson really got a lot of moves up his sleeve" |
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Reply to XxMalcolm
you're not as smart as you think you are, sweetheart
| @XxMalcolm I literally wrote it doesn't take much to realize what's going on in the first post dumdum, you sure are as mad as I think you are thou π caught |
Reply to ktg
@Shinjeez This is a joke, right? You contradicted yourself, you cannot be serious.
Firstly, what I presented is the correct thought process, which is the less stupid one. It was purposely directed as "Muzan is ready to attack and then something happens", so it tried to make it look like it was Muzan. This is one of the most basic directing technique. Like it's taught on your first lesson on directing.
Secondly, your DB argument is pretty stupid, because we've seen much more complex techniques than a simple DB-type attack. Even a low-level demon was able to create an alternative universe and divide himself into 3 bodies. So you must be pretty delusional for not understanding how powerful a demon can be, especially Muzan.
Thirdly, no, physical actions are not required even when it comes of bigger attacks. Like I mentioned, Gyutaro destroyed a whole town or part of town without lifting a single finger, because he used "some black magic", more precisely some blood magic. We aren't even talking a town here, only about a building and we know that Muzan was able to damage significantly his room only with his voice, again without lifting a single finger.
You should just simple think about it. Gyutaro was aroung 150 years old and he was able to destroy a town, while Muzan is like a 1000 years old. Muzan with some kind of black magic was able to kill demons from afar when they talked about him, so even the source of the explosion wouldn't necessarily come from Muzan's position in the building.
I trust you that you can think about it and understand that this is the logical thought process, that's why this is how they directed it.
Firstly, what I presented is the correct thought process, which is the less stupid one. It was purposely directed as "Muzan is ready to attack and then something happens", so it tried to make it look like it was Muzan. This is one of the most basic directing technique. Like it's taught on your first lesson on directing.
Secondly, your DB argument is pretty stupid, because we've seen much more complex techniques than a simple DB-type attack. Even a low-level demon was able to create an alternative universe and divide himself into 3 bodies. So you must be pretty delusional for not understanding how powerful a demon can be, especially Muzan.
Thirdly, no, physical actions are not required even when it comes of bigger attacks. Like I mentioned, Gyutaro destroyed a whole town or part of town without lifting a single finger, because he used "some black magic", more precisely some blood magic. We aren't even talking a town here, only about a building and we know that Muzan was able to damage significantly his room only with his voice, again without lifting a single finger.
You should just simple think about it. Gyutaro was aroung 150 years old and he was able to destroy a town, while Muzan is like a 1000 years old. Muzan with some kind of black magic was able to kill demons from afar when they talked about him, so even the source of the explosion wouldn't necessarily come from Muzan's position in the building.
I trust you that you can think about it and understand that this is the logical thought process, that's why this is how they directed it.
| @ktg The lengths you can go to try and protect how easily you got it wrong are impressive tbh, talk about being delusional. Even after knowing what happened, you still think the alternative made any sense. No matter how far into convoluted explanations about what demons are capable of you go (my examples were exasperated hyperbole), each and every single move they did or power they showcased made sense for the situation they were in. Muzan blowing the entire place up, himself included, after preparing his nails to slice 'em up, with caltrops coming out of the floor, did not. His personal kills and actions were always swift and direct, avoiding unnecessary effort or damage to the surroundings, let alone wrecking himself up in the process. He also prefers to kill through his underlings to avoid going out in the open himself. He even tried to avoid confrontation and apologized to some random drunks in the first season, only letting himself go after getting emotional (easily enraged). It was painfully obviously directed as "Muzan finally found them and is about to end their lives at last, but Ubuyashiki didn't let him have the pleasure of doing so by ending it all with the explosive setup himself, while simultaneously signaling the situation to the rest of the Demon Slayers from a distance". You are trying to claim "senseless random bullshit go" (black magic as you yourself also call it) is less stupid than the logical thing Ubuyashiki was going to do if he knew that his sworn enemy was going to be there to kill him and his family soon. I literally started expecting for a trap to go off several minutes earlier when the children started singing, that's how incredibly obvious and suspicious it was. Muzan himself states it was obvious there was going to be some sort of trap, just nothing of this scale, so he felt overconfident and went anyway. Thankfully at least a handful of YouTubers didn't disappoint like the rest, and actually had a clue of what was happening on their screen. Now stop climbing on mirrors, enough cringe already. Next time just look at the details on screen better, and you won't end up in this embarrassing situation. |
ShinjeezJul 5, 6:29 AM
Reply to XxMalcolm
@kelajuan nah, the person is just an insufferable cunt regardless of bait or not
| @XxMalcolm Seething hard LMAO |
Reply to olly5656
@XxMalcolm facts what a loser
| @olly5656 Keep outing yourselves ππ«΅ It's hilarious |
| Bot broke down, started insulting itself π |
| real it was Tanjiro fire breathing technique that did that explosion. |
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