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Feb 18, 2024 3:21 AM

#101

FragmantLemon

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Jan 2017

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Was hoping the Echos were AIs from the future or something, them being aliens was a weird addition to this otherwise fine time-travel narrative.

Satisfying finale to this love letter of a series to a dying medium, made me very interested to read up the manga it was based of despite it being an anime-original story

Feb 19, 2024 3:05 PM

#102

fiveguysshake

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Feb 2024

Was confused at first but overall cute ending. I enjoyed this series.

Mar 16, 2024 11:05 PM

#103

CrazyButNot4U

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Not a bad conclusion, it was good enough at the very least. I still enjoyed the finale, it was somehow satisfying.
Unfortunately, we didn't get to see what really happened in the past, in her time of giving the disc & letter to the past Mamoru as it was omitted/skipped in this final episode but it was still a worthwhile watch.
Nonetheless, I'd like to read what kind of messages old-man-Mamoru told his younger version. Maybe a love letter? 😅
I guess it's fine to ship them together as they're of legal age anyway... 😆😆😆

CrazyButNot4UMar 17, 2024 2:48 AM

It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.

Mar 22, 2024 11:15 AM

#104

GavrocheN7

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Yeah ok so females don’t age at all. Only men age correctly that sux

It’s a mixed bag for me and I’m not from the audience group who share the PC 98 nostalgia…. but I’ll add 1 extra point for the constant shoutouts to MadoMagi

7/10 for me

Mar 24, 2024 2:30 PM

#105

LightSteve

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May 2014

Happy to see, for one time, a good ending.
However imo, an expanded version (let me say 24eps) of this serie colud had been more and more better, going deeper into “alien’s plot” and in Toya&Konoha game.
And what about the old lady, suddenly disappeared, who sold the time travel games to Konoha??
In the end I liked this show, but with a post feeling of wasted chance

Mar 31, 2024 1:15 AM

#106

StalkerFairy

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Aug 2014

Finally finished this myself.
Saw on Reddit someone clipped the "Fate Gears of Order" part which led me to check out the OP + clips of Konoha being adorable led me here.
Really enjoyed this; it relates to my type alot(I recognize nearly 95% of every non-fictional game, anime and series referenced and mentioned. And the ED had KOTOKO)

But like many, I do have issues and unanswered questions with the final arc.

Will start by saying my favourite girl is Toya. I want to waifu her; to R34 her. Glasses, adorkable, big melons, weirdly still hot even in her 50s(also Kaori and Meiko for some reason. No wrinkles. Yet the guys aged).
But there are many unanswered questions about her. Her "villainous" role in the final arc already slightly hinted, but one of the unanswered questions is(this is the hint I mentioned of her dark side in question): why was she so desensitized as an Otaku Princess? Ironically, the Otaku Princess look is my least favourite.

And, who is the American guy? Hints at a founder, but no indication as to who it is, with the American guy being the "final boss"(also, despite Toya's complaints about not meeting the guy face to face, she sure found him easily)

Like many, I also thought she would play the part in distributing the final game; as her company's debut game would certainly help put it on the map.

I guess the old lady that gave Konoha the games was Echo in a way. Think there was an implication that Echo1, 2 and 3 are all different facades of Echo, hence why the same name. Perhaps the old lady as well, hence why Echo1 knew Konoha and became a fan.

May 6, 2024 9:54 PM

#107

niiica

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I’m surprised this show isn’t getting as much love. I binged watched this series and thoroughly enjoyed it (even the random alien stuff). Sure, it would’ve been nice if they showed us how Konoha was able to release the game back then, but with a 13-episode series, I didn’t expect much. I enjoyed the ending. I know many don’t want to ship Konoha x Mamoru but they technically met when they were younger so I feel like the age gap shouldn’t matter at this point lol. They’ve been through a lot together so I wouldn’t be surprised if they develop feelings for each other. It’s an open ending so I guess it’s just up to our imagination to figure out what happens after the last episode.

My brain: Yorozuya Gin-chan -> Yozakura Quartet = Yorozuya Quartet (this is how much Gintama has affected me).

May 7, 2024 3:10 PM

#108

HandStuckInTable

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Mar 2023

Overall a fun show with a clear love for its subject matter, but the final episodes fall short of the rest I feel. Instead of spending so much time on dystopian scifi plot, it would have been better to stick to what made so enjoyable in the first and focus on the actual game development. As it stands, we barely get to see what sort of game Konoha actually made, which is disappointing. I might have preferred it if they had Konoha go back sooner and made the game in the past itself with Toya, since her role as a villain felt underwhelming and I honestly would have liked to see them work together for the last part of the show.

Jul 9, 2024 8:09 PM

#109

Gippy

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Aug 2013

Fantastic show. Unlike a good number of viewers, I thoroughly enjoyed the more ambitious turn this show took. You want a typical game creation show? There's already New Game. You want a time travel show where the main girl goes back and the show plays it straight to the point of boring? There's Iroduku: The World in Colors. (That one was boring AF.) This one dared to take a chance, and its ending didn't leave a bitter taste like Remake Our Life.

I liked the AI social commentary, and how it didn't completely condemn the concept, even though the show suggested that at times. The ending emphasized coexistence between the AI-enhanced "cuu games" and bishoujo games, giving players the choice. The supernatural elements in the show were fine by me, as the philosophical takes about human imagination were delivered well. As for the final time travel to 1999, we didn't need to see it. We already saw the process the first time around.

9/10. One of the best of 2023. Behind Summertime Rendering and Steins;Gate... but I think this can slot into my #3 time-travel show of all-time.

Sep 18, 2024 4:26 PM

#110

Kristiwazhere

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Sep 2018

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Well these last four episodes sure were weird and rushed.
Is what happened in these last four episodes actually in the manga or did the anime studio make their own ending at the last minute because they were told there would be no second season?

Oh, never mind, the manga is entirely different and is just about alcohol soft without the time slip stuff and Meiko is the protag.... weird.

KristiwazhereSep 18, 2024 4:32 PM

Nov 19, 2024 4:32 PM

#111

Assassino707

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Jun 2019

Im glad I didn't Skip this

It was an enjoyable Watch

Dec 1, 2024 11:22 PM

#112

SvendermanXD

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I wish we got to see what they did on 1999 again even if it's just a few scenes. I really hoped we got to see Konoha and Toya making a game together. I was expecting that atleast.

But when she came back to the new 2023, I felt so happy that her OC finally got to be in a hit game, shown in the billboard.

Jan 9, 4:34 PM

#113

pash123_

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Sep 2024

It make me cry. Very vibe anime.

Jan 13, 6:11 PM

#114

Yuki_Raine

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Jul 2019

Amusing with interesting turns, rushed in the end and left loose ends. It made me care enough to be frustrated about it, which is a win I guess. Worth the time for sure, even if it leaves you a bit salty and baffled.

-Aliens for some poetic MacGuffin.
-Toya was hyped as a low key minor villain with good intentions on how she treated otakus back then and finally being a part in exploiting humans(plants in a pot & zombies). I thought it was implied that Konoha would use Toya's new company to publish game#2 but nothing was shown of her character arc other some reformation in alt future A (probably ended up in prison).
-American stereotype villain of the week having a facility under a stadium but loosing to PC-98 and aliens. Forced and unnecessary, at least make toya the full villain instead of a rando caricature.
-The implied love story was left probably intentionally vague (maybe Mamoru being a 46yo ojisan has something to do with that), and the poor dude was just waiting for her all his life? For a hug?
-What happened to the people of alt future A? Mamoru was left still alone, Toya in prison and the rest happy with the aliens and Konoha(19yo, a child compared to them 50+) disappearing?

Suspension of disbelief is fine, but this took it a step too far in a few directions. Konoha is a game god through spacetime triggered by 5th dimension aliens apparently...? Boosted by putting 2023 game standards in 1999 market, but still, what....
There was a limited runtime and the anime followed suit to Konoha's long winded anime description, being over the top, nonsensical at times but pulling at your heartstrings and still managing to make a point, even though vague and with gaps.
Overall it would really benefit from a special episode (which we wont get), maybe from the perspective of the aliens to tie the loose ends ans close the book.
Once again poetically ironic that the anime about making games borderline needs someone to make the final part, like the devs left it at the good ending but not the hidden perfect ending which needs replaying to attain.

Yuki_RaineJan 13, 6:43 PM

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