Mushoku Tensei II: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu Episode 3 Discussion

djg2345312 said:
Try a bit of empathy.
Also, that's a bit of a misconception about alcohol. What you are thinking in a particular moment doesn't always reflect your rational beliefs. He insulted her as a means to cope; his brain was coming up with nitpicks to bring her down in his mind so that her rejection would hurt less. People do this shit all the time. 
Maybe it's immature, but he was venting and it was exacerbated by the alcohol. In a sober state, those would just be passing thoughts that he would push away because he doesn't truly believe those things about her.

mkzxwing said:
3 seasons in and a lot of supposed 'growth as a character' and our poor 50~ year old man baby is ready to commit sudoku over some random bitch he barely got to know and just badmouthed. Said it before and will say it again, but mc does NOT grow or change in the majority of this novel, if at all. 

Worvrammu said:
So, Rudeus can't perform and instead of consoling him and being a friend, like he has been for her, Sara insults him and says that it didn't mean anything anyway. Rightfully so, of course, because after all Sara hasn't gotten what she wanted, and damn Rudeus's feelings.
Then when Rudeus goes on a drinking spree and engages in some drunken emotional self-defense, she gets violent. Like the dumb egoistical bitch she is.
What a despicable, ungrateful piece of trash.

Patrik_L said:
Rudeus is piece of shit person deserves all his misfortune.
Alcohol just lets people say what they truely think.

HangyakuNo_Nikki said:
Rudeus is the strongest mage who could not raise his magic stick.

Some LN Extra Details (Volume 7,  Chapter 5-6 + Epilogue)
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Acctra said:
You know, I think something I read about people needing things spoon fed to them in entertainment might be the slightest bit true given how many people are taking this at face value without bothering to understand anything at all. That, and a lot of people seem to think of nothing but sex.

Natsu88 said:
Actually, the episode started off really sweet with Rudeus and Sara's date. You could tell they both had a great time together. Both may have been drunk, but it's easy to see how attracted Sara is to Rudeus.
However, I don't understand her behavior in Rudeu's room when they were about to make love. It can happen at any time that the partner has problems, as in Rudeu's case. Blaming and even insulting him for that takes the biscuit. That's not how you behave. Especially not to your lifesaver.

At least that made sure Rudeus, even when drunk, could talk his frustration off his chest. By the way, I have to retract my hasty assessment of Sol. While both Rudeus got off to a rocky start, they almost seem like long-time friends to me, and Sol's effort to help Rudeus with his problem, while special, was genuinely considerate. It was clear to me somewhere that he can't be helped in the brothel as it's a matter of the mind with Rudeus, even if Elise is an absolute bomb.

Unfortunately Sara was right there when Rudeus started badmouthing her, even though he shouldn't because it just doesn't suit him. His reaction after the slap shows how much Rudeus is struggling with his feelings. Without Sol's presence he probably would have killed himself, which is really crazy. But maybe it's better that it ended that way, if it ended at all. If you are angry, ugly words can be used or you act in a completely atypical manner. Tempers probably need to calm down first.

However, I already love the interaction between Sol and Rudeus. As men tend to do, they were able to work out their differences and I'm sure Rudeus will do well to have Sol around as that's exactly what he needs right now.

AnOnYmOuS__101 said:
yea who wouldn’t but mc should of noticed if he didn’t get any boners since the beginning not saying that what she did was right but she’s sloppy seconds of his dad so ignore her. Btw don’t he insult her at the end of this to which is where she slapped him and ran off after throwing his gift

AlexGK said:
To anyone saying Sara did nothing wrong, please go out and touch grass. This is not how you behave towards your partner, even less so if he had just saved your life. She prioritized her own ego over her partners issue. Trash.
You will see the same situation superbly handled later. It doesn't take much, really.

MegamiRem said:
Same hair color, same type of body figure, similar face, even similar names and in the LN it's specifically mentioned she resembles Eris and you are saying they look nothing alike? Okay.

CrazyFrogz said:


You answer the question. Yes she wouldn't. That is the reason why she is loser from Rudeus romance. Silphy will do better job in next episode, arc.

SentiOnikawa said:
Can we not? This isn't some harem/ecchi series.

For people whining about Sara and saying it's her fault: Jesus, when did MAL become a haven for incels? You realize that relationships are complex, right? Rudeus was abandoned and had an underlying fear of intimacy since his first time ended so horribly. Sara was not aware and in the moment was upset because she thought he had found her body disgusting. Rudeus was not in the frame of mind to explain himself. In the morning when Rudeus was talking smack with Soldat, he didn't know Sara was behind him. The words were hurtful, so it's understandable why she would react that way. Rudeus wasn't really at fault either, since he wasn't aware of her presence and was also still mostly inebriated.It's a case of "everyone sucks" mixed with "emotions are hard."

Honestly, the fact that the show addresses Rudeus's situation maturely is impressive imo. Depression sucks. When someone gets enough in their own feelings, they'll have outbursts and behave in a manner unusual for them. Also, it's well-known that people with depression will often behave in a way that causes others to gravitate towards them, whether that being through acts of extreme generosity or humor. For those people, it's about putting on a mask so others aren't "burdened" by them. Rudeus hasn't been addressing his myriad mental health issues. He's been burying them down and trying to focus elsewhere and be as affable as possible without burdening others.

Also, we all need a bro like Soldat. 10/10, everything else is automatically trash tier for not having a Soldat.