| I don't really get why this show is so underrated, and score is getting even lower lately. I'll there have been two or three a little boring episodes, but I think 7,14 is way too low compared with other season shows. |
| yeah this had been on of the good shows....I hope it gets more recognition |
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| Yeah I don't trust any sort of score system for anime. I always tend to watch something that has a low score and really like it. It all comes down to everyone's personal taste. |
Dzentelmen2 said: I can't imagine anyone enjoying this shit show without taking hard drugs before watching every episode. I'm at the point where I watch it at 2 times the speed just so I can get through all the bullshit they come up with and finish this. Hanging above 7 is actually a surprising score for something so bad, but I guess that if you were to overlook the shitty store then you're left with some pretty nice animation. You're being so rude, man. Not my problem that you have shit taste. |
| I guess that's why the score is so low. There's a bunch of people who started hating it because the plot didn't go the way they wanted after the first 4 episodes, and felt betrayed so they give it 1-3/10. The same thing happened with Kabaneri. But within universe, everything that's happening still makes sense (more or less), there's still tons of creativity with very good animation, and the characters have remained as enjoyable as they were in the beginning. I'll only really start to hate something if the characters I once loved stop acting like themselves for no good reason or the plot becomes too boring/predictable. |
Dzentelmen2 said: I can't imagine anyone enjoying this shit show without taking hard drugs before watching every episode. I'm at the point where I watch it at 2 times the speed just so I can get through all the bullshit they come up with and finish this. Hanging above 7 is actually a surprising score for something so bad, but I guess that if you were to overlook the shitty store then you're left with some pretty nice animation. This. The show is terribly rushed, there's no characterization and no build-up for the story events, so it's really hard to give a shit or two to what's happening. Everyone who's still watching this should just drop and read the manga. |
BEST ANIME  EVER 5/10 |
| Someone who really loves the manga told me that this is literally the worst anime adaptation of all time. A gigantic portion of the souce has been left out, to the point that between 2 episodes several volumes of content are missing. If this series was as popular as Tokyo Ghoul, the fans would freak out and this show would become a meme and laughing stock for the anime community. However since only very few people have read the manga, not many people even talk about this. |
| i do agree with the current rating being 7~7.5 . its a decent score, for MAL standards. i never trust the coverpage ratings. always check the ratings per episode discussion. way better. and currently, many people still love still series, albeit lower feedback/viewers compared to other anime. it was a fairly good show at the beginning since it was somewhat a fresh air (for me at least). but even then, at the early stages, the plot and character buildup was pretty confusing. i'm pretty sure most of the viewers havent read the source material; including me. many manga readers pointed out the flaws (which are legit and solid arguments). even so, i decided to continue watching the series until the few past episodes; 24+, hoping the plot would get better but sadly, it didnt. its like a merry go round. however you change the exterior, it behaves the same. it became dull. this is my perspective solely as an anime viewer. i havent read the manga. i'm really sad to drop this series because of the amazing music composer Hayashi Yuki, OP / ED songs & animation, and Megumi Hayashibara CV. |
| The show did start amazingly but it just went not so good. The story became boring and loads of characters were introduced that didn't really need to be there I am quite disappointed in how bad it got, but the end of episode 4 is easily one of my favourite episodes from any series (wish it stayed that good) The series downfall was not long after that episode The current rating is rather fair in my opinion (I haven't read the Manga) |
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| They rushed a lot in the beginning episodes. And that might've turned people off. There's some brilliant science involved, and the battle animations aren't really that spectacular. Less episodes, more plot, more characters. Obviously the details that would make people love the characters were missed out. Who even felt anything when those shiroganes died in the deseet fight? That said, I still liked the show, because for me, the story appeared interesting. All those flashbacks and actual story telling, I wanted to see that, I got it. That's all. |
Isekai for the brain, CGDCT for the heart Yuri for the pain and seiyuus for the soul.  |
| the downfall really was all the skipped content imo,do like the series but as it stands would say the score is pretty accurate but without the skipped content surely i'd say it would have been deserving of something in the 8 range. |
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| Last thing you should do is to judge a show by its rating on mal, they could change MAL acronym to MAT (my abyssmal taste) and it would still be acurate. For example, in this case show was bashed because it cut about 50% of UNTRANSLATED manga and made some changes so story is still coherent even with cut content. People should be glad that old manga got good adaptation, but nah. I bet most people bashing this show will never read manga anyway. Its also lemming effect - "show is rated high? i will rate it high, show is rated low - i will rate it low" lol |
| harem and ecchi are a cancer to whole planet bad english user |
| 7 is pretty high actually! |
EMP-511 said: EdHaku said: This. The show is terribly rushed, there's no characterization and no build-up for the story events, so it's really hard to give a shit or two to what's happening. Everyone who's still watching this should just drop and read the manga. But the manga is not fully translated. How can we read the whole thing? It'll be. And honestly at this point you'll have a better experience just looking at the japanese raws rather than watching the anime. |
EMP-511 said: EdHaku said: It'll be. And honestly at this point you'll have a better experience just looking at the japanese raws rather than watching the anime. Is there any way to read raw manga and understand it? Its gonna take like 3 years to translate the rest >Is there any way to read raw manga and understand it? No, but it's still better than watching the anime. >Its gonna take like 3 years to translate the rest Unfortunately these things take time. The team who's translating is looking for Japanese translators to speed things up. I'm sure if even two or three translators joined, it would speed up things significantly. |
Is the source material any better? Adaptions are usually glorified advertisements but most shounen are a 1:1 (or close enough) . As far as the story goes it's meh. It has some good ideas but it's of course done in that typically shounen fashion. I'm just glad it was 36 episodes instead of hundreds and hundreds. |
LordLagann said: Is the source material any better? Adaptions are usually glorified advertisements but most shounen are a 1:1 (or close enough). It's miles better. It doesn't even compare. It's 43 volumes x 36 episodes, so you can guess how much content was cut. |
EdHaku said: It's miles better. It doesn't even compare. It's 43 volumes x 36 episodes, so you can guess how much content was cut. I already figured the show took a lot of shortcuts with how frequently characters were getting on and off the bench but pretty much got the gist of it from the show. Was there anything major they cut that pertained to the plot or a key character point that would of been important to know? Just curious as to how far of a departure was it from the source material? |
LordLagann said: Was there anything major they cut that pertained to the plot or a key character point that would of been important to know? Just curious as to how far of a departure was it from the source material? Yes, the anime cuts major character development arcs and introductions. For once, it completely cuts the arc where the manga translation has stopped for now (vol 30), and this arc introduces new characters and character development that was not in the anime. |
| For being the same author from Ushio to Tora I was thinking I was going have a blast on this one... You know, old school shounen... Nope. The first 2 episodes... Things were developing too fast, imo. Seriously, I hate it. It feels like some episodes from Soul Eater... Like any rushed anime. Some characters lack of development or came from nowhere. Really, Narumi were cool until he lost his left arm... That whole Zonapha thing is dumb as well.. I don't score an anime until I finished all episodes (I'm on episode 12)... But this one already feels like 3/10. I'm bit disappointed. I finally got some time to watch this today... But I'm glad that I didnt watch it week by week. Three days are better than nine months. lol |
CharzeonApr 7, 2020 6:40 PM
| I don't get it either. I just started watching but it is really well executed and has a fascinating story. |
donkwonk said: I don't think the hate is the result of saltiness. In 4 episodes I doubt anyone could conjure up a route they wanted the story to take and in those 4 episodes grow so attached to the show that they rage and give the show a low score. This show is just plain bad. It isn't necessarily the story itself that's bad and from watching what I have, I'm not really mad about the route it took per say. It's the pacing. The show is so rushed that I doubt most people could give a damn about the characters. They try to bait us and pretend that big man died but I couldn't give a shit. They obviously cut out a lot of content necessary for us to get attached to the characters. The plot was interesting, I actually liked the backstory about the crazy guy and him making a machine and trying to make it laugh. It's just the pacing was so unforgivably bad that the whole drive the show requires is lost. All the twists and turns lack punch and all the dramatic moments lack emotion. The reason I personally have a huge grudge against this show was because I probably forced myself to watch over 20 episodes of it, convinced that it would get better. You're allowed to like the show, I have plenty of shows I like that people don't really like but it's kinda dumb to assume that everyone who dislikes the show is some dumb ape who can't handle things going their way. That's not the case. There was one aspect, one flaw that made this show unbearable for people. If you don't have a problem with that flaw then kudos to you, you get to enjoy more anime. Anyway, that's all I had to say. You can defend the show all you want but that wasn't the argument I was trying to make. I get what you're saying. Maybe most people can't stand shows going at such a fast pace, but I think I'm the opposite. I can't stand most very slow-paced shows where almost nothing meaningful happens each episode, and that is much more common. I guess I found it a breath of fresh air and I was able to connect to the characters and emotional plot events from the well-done animation, acting, music, etc. without needing lots of extra details. I felt the music and animation go especially well together in a way that makes it feel akin to watching a music video, which I would never drop because of the story being fast-paced and lacking in finer details if it's engaging and interesting. But then, most people don't seem to care much about the background music and how well it syncs up with the animation either. :/ For the record, I'm not arguing that this ultra fast pace is best; the show likely would've been better if they had more episodes to work with. However, I'm pretty sure the studio was told they had 36 episodes to adapt the entire thing and they wouldn't get any more than that. Considering that insane requirement, I think the staff really did a good job. |
Phoebe3315May 1, 2020 5:31 AM
tenaflyviper said: The Karakuri Circus manga is one of the most batshit insane things I've ever read, so I'm glad more people got to experience it through an anime at least, even if that anime is... imperfect. I know not everyone wants to sit down and read a 400+ chapter manga, especially one that's not completely translated. If you liked the anime, definitely give the manga a chance, though. It is absolutely insane and soooooooo much better than the anime. The group working on the English translation just resurfaced yesterday and posted volume 35 in full, so this is the time to get on board!! That's actually pretty exciting. I haven't read any of the manga yet (will likely wait until it's fully translated), though I'm looking forward to it considering how much I enjoyed the anime. I'm apparently in an extreme minority of people who love very fast-paced shows, and I feel that even with how much they had to cut, the core story is still pretty much all there. In addition to the music/voice acting, I thought the directing was great (considering the 36 episode limit) and made everything more engaging. I wouldn't hate on it too much...would nothing have been better than a full telling of the main story in 36 episodes? Unlike a lot of anime adaptations I've seen, I don't think this casts negative light on the source material. Art & animation may have dipped at places, but I don't think it was ever close to as ugly as Berserk 2016 for example. It seems to me the team behind this clearly had passion for it. It's a little weird, I get the feeling that it's mostly manga fans who are heavy criticizing the anime, but I think it's the type of show to attract more people to the manga, as opposed to turning them off. |
tenaflyviper said: Another thing I am glad about is the anime adaption renewing interest in the series. That is definitely a positive. I am obsessed with the manga rn, so I eagerly await the day the translation is complete and I have more people to talk to about it. Yeah. I just think it's sad that the top review (which will likely remain the top for the rest of time) is 1/10, the two below that are 5/10, and the overall anime score has continued to drop and is almost below 7. I don't care much about scores on this site, but I do feel that those things will ultimately hurt the discoverability of both the anime and the manga a fair amount. As a manga reader, are you happy enough with the anime that you would recommend it to people (who are reluctant to read a very long manga with a unfinished, unofficial translation)? Do you think it would ruin the story for them? Just curious. |
| I dropped it after watching 2 episode , I am not planning to pick it up soon , overall based on my experience I can say there is nothing wrong with the score |
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