Too many people remain ignorant about the Trigun ip as awhole

Apr 17, 2023 6:53 PM

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I just think it looks like ass. CGI is terrible and distracting.

Apr 17, 2023 7:05 PM

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Sonson7 said:
What is up with all the ignoramus, jumped the gun reviews about Stampede.

I can see how a lot of people might have a bias towards the OG Trigun anime, but why do a lot of people turn so dismissive about Stampede.

Like a lot of their high hailed opinion can be immediately countered if they at least know basic information about the manga story, how the OG adapted the manga, or how Stampede is trying to adapt the manga, and how the manga went from a shonen series to a seinen one.
Stampede might be doing its own thing but it is still adapting the same source material manga

that and as the person above me has shown the cgi animation turned some people off, I understand why some people dont like cgi but i thought it looked great and used the cgis strengths in a cool way

Apr 17, 2023 7:06 PM

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Anime_God_King said:
I just think it looks like ass. CGI is terrible and distracting.

I can't see you eye to eye in that. But at least it's clear what aspect you don't like.

Apr 17, 2023 7:10 PM

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DonniedaCultured said:

Sonson7 said:
What is up with all the ignoramus, jumped the gun reviews about Stampede.

I can see how a lot of people might have a bias towards the OG Trigun anime, but why do a lot of people turn so dismissive about Stampede.

Like a lot of their high hailed opinion can be immediately countered if they at least know basic information about the manga story, how the OG adapted the manga, or how Stampede is trying to adapt the manga, and how the manga went from a shonen series to a seinen one.
Stampede might be doing its own thing but it is still adapting the same source material manga

that and as the person above me has shown the cgi animation turned some people off, I understand why some people dont like cgi but i thought it looked great and used the cgis strengths in a cool way

At least they are clear in what turns them off in a simple way. What irks me are presumptuous notions of "Stampede" not being so Trigun when they themselves barely knows anything about Trigun as a whole.

Apr 17, 2023 7:15 PM

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Sonson7 said:

DonniedaCultured said:

that and as the person above me has shown the cgi animation turned some people off, I understand why some people dont like cgi but i thought it looked great and used the cgis strengths in a cool way

At least they are clear in what turns them off in a simple way. What irks me are presumptuous notions of "Stampede" not being so Trigun when they themselves barely knows anything about Trigun as a whole.

understandable honestly, i have no idea about the manga so i cant speak on that but i enjoyed the show plenty, definitely frustrating some og fans wouldn't give it a chance

Apr 17, 2023 8:09 PM

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luffy-des

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at least they not changed story. but vash supposed to be more daring in OGtrigun anime

Apr 17, 2023 8:13 PM

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Sonson7 said:
What is up with all the ignoramus, jumped the gun reviews about Stampede.

I can see how a lot of people might have a bias towards the OG Trigun anime, but why do a lot of people turn so dismissive about Stampede.

Like a lot of their high hailed opinion can be immediately countered if they at least know basic information about the manga story, how the OG adapted the manga, or how Stampede is trying to adapt the manga, and how the manga went from a shonen series to a seinen one.
Stampede might be doing its own thing but it is still adapting the same source material manga

I think also a lot of these artless hacks don’t really remember what the original show was like or what good animation actually looks like either. The original show while great in a lot of ways suffers from filler and case-of-the-week meandering. The plot doesn’t move for many episodes only for it to explode in the last few. They only really remember the first few and last few episodes. Also the animation of the original as a whole isn’t much to write home about. There are some good scenes every now and then but nothing compared to the master class that is Stampede or even it’s 90s space cowboys contemporaries like Bebop or Outlaw Star. I like the OG Trigun but to say that stampede is bad is simply people ridiculous and is a take that should just be ignored.

Apr 17, 2023 8:27 PM

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Asis101 said:

Sonson7 said:
What is up with all the ignoramus, jumped the gun reviews about Stampede.

I can see how a lot of people might have a bias towards the OG Trigun anime, but why do a lot of people turn so dismissive about Stampede.

Like a lot of their high hailed opinion can be immediately countered if they at least know basic information about the manga story, how the OG adapted the manga, or how Stampede is trying to adapt the manga, and how the manga went from a shonen series to a seinen one.
Stampede might be doing its own thing but it is still adapting the same source material manga

I think also a lot of these artless hacks don’t really remember what the original show was like or what good animation actually looks like either. The original show while great in a lot of ways suffers from filler and case-of-the-week meandering. The plot doesn’t move for many episodes only for it to explode in the last few. They only really remember the first few and last few episodes. Also the animation of the original as a whole isn’t much to write home about. There are some good scenes every now and then but nothing compared to the master class that is Stampede or even it’s 90s space cowboys contemporaries like Bebop or Outlaw Star. I like the OG Trigun but to say that stampede is bad is simply people ridiculous and is a take that should just be ignored.

Yup, I get that the OG barely gave that much of an info about plants and the more alien power aspect of Trigun. So it's funny how og anime people find the powers in Trigun wacky, small people who kept begging for Vash's angel arms being up in arms about Vash and Knive's angel wings. Them being surprised Wolfwood can regenerate.
They held the OG anime in high regards yet they barely even remember that the OG did show such aspects.

Apr 17, 2023 8:39 PM

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I don't mind the CGI.

But I think some of the characters in the new reboot portrait the characters in a slightly different personality or actions that they do. (or how the events are being shown)

Which can feel weird if you watched or remember the OG.

And that's what this thread topic is about.

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It's pretty much the same as all other series that had reboot or remaster, etc etc.

TBH, this thread shouldn't even be bothered with in the first place. Cause as you said, there are already tons of other threads with ppls talking about comparison between OG and Reboot.

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Apr 17, 2023 8:42 PM

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Anime_God_King said:
I just think it looks like ass. CGI is terrible and distracting.

the CGI in stampede is as good as it gets for a TV show

Apr 17, 2023 8:54 PM

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Unfortunately, I see a lot of people who are dissuaded by others’ (often 1998 Trigun fans) cursory opinions on the show.

I am hoping that the people who stay for the second season are the people who are intrigued to see where the story goes so there can be more varied dialogue around it. :)

Apr 17, 2023 9:04 PM

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Sonson7 said:
What is up with all the ignoramus, jumped the gun reviews about Stampede.

I can see how a lot of people might have a bias towards the OG Trigun anime, but why do a lot of people turn so dismissive about Stampede.

Like a lot of their high hailed opinion can be immediately countered if they at least know basic information about the manga story, how the OG adapted the manga, or how Stampede is trying to adapt the manga, and how the manga went from a shonen series to a seinen one.
Stampede might be doing its own thing but it is still adapting the same source material manga

pretty good CGI but Bad story

Apr 17, 2023 10:08 PM

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Sonson7 said:
What is up with all the ignoramus, jumped the gun reviews about Stampede.

I can see how a lot of people might have a bias towards the OG Trigun anime, but why do a lot of people turn so dismissive about Stampede.

Like a lot of their high hailed opinion can be immediately countered if they at least know basic information about the manga story, how the OG adapted the manga, or how Stampede is trying to adapt the manga, and how the manga went from a shonen series to a seinen one.
Stampede might be doing its own thing but it is still adapting the same source material manga

I really liked stampede. I don’t really like watching older shows so I haven’t seen the original but I found this one enjoyable

Apr 18, 2023 6:49 AM

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Stampede is worth a watch. It has great visuals, exciting action & always keeps you entertained. Just don’t go into it expecting the characters to be anything special, which was the main appeal of the manga & OG anime.

Apr 18, 2023 11:21 AM

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amlg said:
I don't mind the CGI.

But I think some of the characters in the new reboot portrait the characters in a slightly different personality or actions that they do. (or how the events are being shown)

Which can feel weird if you watched or remember the OG.

And that's what this thread topic is about.

___ ___ ___

It's pretty much the same as all other series that had reboot or remaster, etc etc.

TBH, this thread shouldn't even be bothered with in the first place. Cause as you said, there are already tons of other threads with ppls talking about comparison between OG and Reboot.

The point of the thread is not so much on comparison but more so testing the knowledge and calling out the so called fans, who immediately dismiss everything about Stampede and how much substance do their critisms in it is.

Like how Stampede takes more notes from the manga fir example. And people who only watch and actually don't even remember much from the OG anime calls out differences in depiction from the OG anime and label it as "changes for the sake of changes", when in most cases those changes are made with mostly the manga content in consideration.

In short, I hope people with more knowledge on everything Trigun might help people lacking in knowledge in the different iterations of Trigun in aspects they are on the blank with.

Apr 18, 2023 11:45 AM

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Anime_God_King said:
I just think it looks like ass. CGI is terrible and distracting.

Usually I'd tend to agree with 3D animation, typically sticks out and visually jarring. But this isn't the case with this show, it's really well done and I consider it to be a marvel the way it was presented.

But different strokes for different folks.

Apr 18, 2023 11:53 AM

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What about someone that has seen/read all three and enjoys the 98 one the best?

People whine about 98's """"filler"""" even though it's just its own adaptation. Ironic because Stampede is hardly manga faithful either. Have you read the manga? What chapter does Wolfwood whip out the lasergun again? I don't recall Trigun having a prequel either. Or Knives having the powers he has.

It's like calling Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 "mostly filler", and then dismissing it, despite it being completely it's own thing.

Who cares about manga accuracy anyway? Just enjoy all three on their own merit.

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Apr 18, 2023 5:29 PM

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minix_animade said:
What about someone that has seen/read all three and enjoys the 98 one the best?

People whine about 98's """"filler"""" even though it's just its own adaptation. Ironic because Stampede is hardly manga faithful either. Have you read the manga? What chapter does Wolfwood whip out the lasergun again? I don't recall Trigun having a prequel either. Or Knives having the powers he has.

It's like calling Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 "mostly filler", and then dismissing it, despite it being completely it's own thing.

Who cares about manga accuracy anyway? Just enjoy all three on their own merit.

I don't hate the 98', what boils down to a lot of manga readers calling pit how there are a lot of fillers in the OG, is that "said OG fans" became to dismissive about "Stampede" deviating from the OG anime and doing its own thing. Without them putting in to consideration that the OG anime did a lot of things in its own too.
Like no one is also calling Stampede "Manga accurate", but it's more closer or at least it follows the "overarching plot narrative" the manga had.
As to Knives power he can produce whip like Knives and knives in general and manipulate them by some sort of psychic abilities.
Stampede just got creative in how Their Knives use that. In therms of psychic abilities, Basically Knives can do anything Legato can do with it, but Knives do th better.
As for Wolfwood's laser gun, Stampede swapped the Guncross's rocket launcher for a laser.
Also about the manga accuracy thing, accuracy in the base bone structure of the source material is needed in every adaptation to retain the identity of them being a "Trigun". Since if you should rather name the new anime "Not Trigun", if it barely has anything to do with Trigun at all.

This is basically the point of thread, as a lot of stuff said about Trigun in general are riddled with misinformed notion.
It's not supposed to be a big yikes, but it can became that especially since a lot of their main criticisms are rooted to lack of knowledge about the circumstances of the different Trigun iterations and that hampers a lot of people to "Judge the different iterations by their own merits".

Sonson7Apr 18, 2023 5:42 PM

Apr 20, 2023 12:07 AM

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You're right it is distracting, the characters tend to move like puppets. The CGI is a huge turn off for me, If they've given this garbage a traditional 2D animation I would've given it a chance.

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