| seen a lot of people totally disgusted about this ship and i can understand where they coming from, but they are in 'legal" age in the end (YES JUST GOT 18 for Violet). they basically have a "13-14" age difference. p.s. - i personally ship them. |
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| considering the setting it's not weird. people just go berserk whenever anything is slightly different from their values and expectations. |
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| Given the context, the setting, the time and also the fact that there’s several time skips since the introduction of Violet (At the end of the movie she is like 18-19) so when they finally get together (Which it was crystal clear to the audience that was the ending to begin with) I don’t most people have a problem with it. Is it grooming? Subjective. He didn’t really raised her per se. Is it pedo? She is not a kid she is a full grown woman. What is the age gap? Between 10-13 years old at best. All in all is good considering the very specific scenario we are discussing. |
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| If they’re disgusted by the ship, it should follow that they’re disgusted by the show itself. Theoretically. Personally, I don’t much care for the ship myself, but it’s not an age gap thing; it’s a familial thing. Gilbert always resolved to me as more of a parental figure to her. His importance to her cannot be overstated, but her devotion to him didn’t seem romantic at all until the very last second of the movie. It didn’t ruin it for me; the resolution to her arc is still immensely satisfying, and it’s not like it wasn’t presented in such a way that the viewer can’t headcanon the romance out of it if they want to. Paedophilia, while absolutely something to watch out for, has become one of those words whose application has broken the scope of its actual criteria. There is nothing paedophilic about this ship as it sailed in the show proper, but some people, in pursuit of Twitter clout, like to armchair one’s shipping of characters with a wide age gap as indicative of some kind of closet depravity, even if the characters in question are consenting adults by our real-world standards. I don’t think that these people or the question of their approval are worth anyone’s else’s time. It’s okay to be bothered by a ship. It’s okay to want to check out of discourse about it. It can be left at that. |
| Plague Worship 24/7 |
| i don't cuz it's grooming (your vote) |
soniyay said: seen a lot of people totally disgusted about this ship and i can understand where they coming from, but they are in 'legal" age in the end (YES JUST GOT 18 for Violet). they basically have a "13-14" age difference. p.s. - i personally ship them. i dont care about the age diff. but I care about the fact, that he began to her romantically when she was around 12-14 yo what is disgusting imo. espacially the fact that he raised her as a daughter, he teched her reading and writing and gave her her name. its like hes a 30 yo guy who adopts a 10 yo child to fell in love after puperty hits just to come together with her when she turns legal. imo this is endlevel disgusting. also violet is a traumatized kid who would bond to everyone who dont hit and abuse her, so it's also not her healthy choice that she kind of like him, bc she doesn't know the diffrence between romantic and platonic love. as i said, idc about the age diff, but all the facts mentioned i think its very disgusting. but its just my opinion |
WaifuPop said: I don't really like the ship but anime fans being angry at people for ships and calling them paedos when there are a lot of real paedos and victims out there is the worst and dumbest part of this community. God I hate all of them and their ass takes, you're not a paedo if you ship a 16 years old with a 18 years old. gil was 29 when he met violet whole she was around 10. but i dont care about the age diff in general. but I care about the fact, that he began to love her romantically when she was around 12-14 yo what is disgusting imo. espacially the fact that he raised her like a daughter, he teached her reading and writing and gave her her name. its like hes a 30 yo guy who adopts a 10 yo child to fell in love after puperty hits just to come together with her when she turns legal. imo this is endlevel disgusting. also violet is a traumatized kid who would bond to everyone who dont hit and abuse her, so it's also not her healthy choice that she kind of like him, bc she doesn't know the diffrence between romantic and platonic love. as i said, idc about the age diff, but all the facts mentioned i think its very disgusting. but its just my opinion. |
Darkrai7162 said: People nowadays like throwing words like "pedo" or "groomer" randomly and am pretty sure most of them don't even know exactly what they mean. Feels like people nowadays are too focused to show their moral superiority that they see everything in a negative light and don't even try to make any sense. Yes, Gilbert is around 13 to 15 year older than Violet, yes, it's a large age-gap. What about it? Considering the setting, their story and circumstances, what can we say that is wrong about it? Are we gonna pretend there's perfectly fine and happy couples/marriages with large age-gaps out there in our reality? Some out there may not like, but the fact that they go out of their way to label it under negative terms they don't even understand and point the finger at anyone that likes it, it's both sad and annoying. gil was 29 when he met violet whole she was around 10. but i dont care about the age diff in general. but I care about the fact, that he began to love her romantically when she was around 12-14 yo what is disgusting imo. espacially the fact that he raised her like a daughter, he teached her reading and writing and gave her her name. its like hes a 30 yo guy who adopts a 10 yo child to fell in love after puperty hits just to come together with her when she turns legal. imo this is endlevel disgusting. also violet is a traumatized kid who would bond to everyone who dont hit and abuse her, so it's also not her healthy choice that she kind of like him, bc she doesn't know the diffrence between romantic and platonic love. as i said, idc about the age diff, but all the facts mentioned i think its very disgusting. but its just my opinion. |
samthestan said: I hate the ship because it feels like I'm shipping a puppy with his master. In my eyes Violet was supposed to make peace about Gilbert not marry him. absolut facts. imo this romantic vibe destroyed the movie for me. |
| I think it's funny that everytime someone mentions pedo, they will always mention The same thing also happened to this show, except it's canon because Violet also shows it in the anime. Violet was named by Gilbert and made to be emotionally depended on him, told to never stay apart from him. After that, the said person was gone and she was forcibly to live without the said person. The TV series made Violet meet many people and grew as a character. She became to know what is love, even made love letter, without knowing what love is she won't be able to write such beautiful letters. Now this is a good story right? But after successfully made Violet grew and understood love, the author now presented her to the one who raised her. Because of her experience as doll, she knew what kind of 'love' Gibert meant now. It's not the age difference part that matters, it's the grooming part that people should take note. Should I call it Violet Grooming The Movie? I agree with @_weyhxx |
LeonLanfordJul 10, 2022 5:39 PM
LeonLanford said: I think it's funny that everytime someone mentions pedo, they will always mention The same thing also happened to this show, except it's canon because Violet also shows it in the anime. Violet was named by Gilbert and made to be emotionally depended on him, told to never stay apart from him. After that, the said person was gone and she was forcibly to live without the said person. The TV series made Violet meet many people and grew as a character. She became to know what is love, even made love letter, without knowing what love is she won't be able to write such beautiful letters. Now this is a good story right? But after successfully made Violet grew and understood love, the author now presented her to the one who raised her. Because of her experience as doll, she knew what kind of 'love' Gibert meant now. It's not the age difference part that matters, it's the grooming part that people should take note. Should I call it Violet Grooming The Movie? I agree with @_weyhxx Thank you, finally a normal thinking person. The Movie was so great, the whole story arc with this ill boy was heartbreaking, but the whole gilbert thing destroyed the movie for me. It destroyed violet's character and is just ew. |
| What I hate is that this is 99% romantic love and they even re- show the scene where he hugs her as A child in the finale. Fml. |
| Only Westerners talk about pedo. Nobody in Japan fusses about it. |
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