Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken (2020) Episode 100 Discussion

potofresco said:


They posted the genga of some short scenes that were made in 2d indeed but an episode of anime lasts 23 min, nice try though. Think a bit before posting next time no need to suck on Mappa D. so hard, the 3dcg was there and they also rotoscoped shit like they did in the last season of SNK, Mappa is a shitty studio. Also I need to add that my point really wasn't throwing shit at any specific anime it was more towards the anime community that we have nowadays and you are the prime example of the average anime consumer nowadays.

potofresco said:
I'm not gonna drop names but an anime with 1 episode out had a +9 and half the episode was mediocre cg, this after 100 episodes of greatness won't reach an 8, the anime community nowadays is a joke.

Pakumen- said:


Are you older than 14? Because it doesn´t make sense to me that anyone over that age cares about the score of a series on any website. Like, do you need to see a high score to feel validated?.

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Well, 2 years went very fast and the series is over. Not the ending I was expecting but it definitively fits and it leaves the possibility of Dai fighting Velzar in the underworld, I guess. It was definitively and old shonen through and through, with the good and bad things they used to have.

7/10. Enjoyable, but outside the Baran arc it was kind of a mediocre show during most arcs and I hate the idea of characters having dramatic moments that end up going nowhere. For fuck sake, we saw Huynckel "die" 7 times.

KatoWorks said:


Nice try once again saying it's rotoscoped when all the animators confirmed it isn't, next time put some respect on the staff (psst~ they come from all over the industry so you can't just hate just because it's mopper) dumbass.
You can even see it here, https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=chainsaw_man there's no rotoscoping tags.

3DCG is used in basically every production nowadays even for your favorites, Ufotable, Wit, etc. It's a convenient tool that allows for more flexibility. No need to hate cause of the reputation it gets due to mediocre productions like Berserk 2016 or Ex-Arm

potofresco said:


There's in fact rotoscope and Sakugabooru isn't an oficial source dunno why are you posting that as a proof or something you just have to watch the first episode, 3dcg is used indeed in almost any production nowadays but there are companies that know how to use it like Ufotable and companies like Mappa that stinks using it and looks like a ps2 game (and yes there are scenes like that in the 1st episode) also you are talking about giving some respect to the staff, I believe they should have some self-respect first of all and stop working for a company that treats it's workers like slaves :D

Won't reply more to you since talking with fanboy childs is exhausting and this isn't the thread to talk about this.

potofresco said:


I just pointed something obvious, that doesn't mean that I really care about it, by the same logic that you are using you care about a random internet user talking about something that you don't care :D which I believe you don't or I hope you don't.

Pakumen- said:


Are you older than 14? Because it doesn´t make sense to me that anyone over that age cares about the score of a series on any website. Like, do you need to see a high score to feel validated?.

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Well, 2 years went very fast and the series is over. Not the ending I was expecting but it definitively fits and it leaves the possibility of Dai fighting Velzar in the underworld, I guess. It was definitively and old shonen through and through, with the good and bad things they used to have.

7/10. Enjoyable, but outside the Baran arc it was kind of a mediocre show during most arcs and I hate the idea of characters having dramatic moments that end up going nowhere. For fuck sake, we saw Huynckel "die" 7 times.

UaEfAlCoN83 said:
I used to like this show (the old version), but I regretted watching this new version to be honest ... I am glad I am done with it.

I think my taste changed ... For me, average shonen with many unlikable characters.

Pakumen- said:


Its not obvious, it is something that does not make sense. I just feel baffled by the amount of people that seem downright offended by MAL scores as if they could not make their own opinion disregarding what others think. Every time some hype train comes up, shit like this happens and it is just a cycle. It occured with CSM, it will continue with JJK, it will happen again with SNK. By the way, honestly this series is not that great so I dont see how this should be above one of the most anticipated shows of the year, regardless of the quality of CSM (or Bleach, which is being hyped like a mf and it is going to adapt a shitty arc).

citizen_one said:
I hate the ending, it was frustrating to me how the hero disappeared at the end..
And the open ending makes me more frustrated..

Yaakuntik said:

I don't get it. what didn't you like this time around? what do you consider a good shonen now then?

UaEfAlCoN83 said:


I don’t understand to be honest .. Dai was one of my favorite old animes and peak shonen … I read the manga years ago and thought it was good also
But after watching it again I felt unsatisfied got many reasons

1- I think I used to like action in general but know I am more invested in plots and not actions

2- most characters are hatable especially Mam and the Rat.

3- Some characters weren’t given justice in my opinion like Crocodine

4- Many random things are happening: power ups, new characters popping up just for action, characters returning from death unnecessarily, choices by evil characters is annoying — they could easy win sometimes but they make stupid decisions for no reason that cost them the battle

I wouldn’t say the anime is bad, but it ruined my good memories about it. Right now, I care more about nicely written plots.
This is why most shonens don’t catch my attention to be honest.

Even the action, I want it to be engineered and tactical, not just pure action with random power ups.

The anime is not bad don’t get me wrong, it is still decent … it is just that it didn’t suit my current taste

But since most animes are shonen — I am sticking around hoping for good moments or at least decent plots.

What is a good plot for me? A unique plot with nice, smooth, and logical world and character development (this is subjective and people view this differently)

Piromysl said:
Gonna miss this show, not gonna lie.
Popp's development was arguably THE best in all anime.

Dzentelmen2 said:
I didn't like the final arc. It dragged on and everybody got plot armor. Even Hym did a last minute sacrifice and somehow survived. But I kept watching, hoping for a resolution to the Merle-Popp-Maam-Hyunckel-Aimi love stuff but we got nothing. The first 60-70 episodes are really good but after that it kinda went to shit, only worth watching for some nicely animated fight scenes.

DragonKnight92 said:
Riku Sanjo, the author of DnD, intended to continue the series after Vearn, with Velzar as the main villain (is called "Makai Arc", Makai is Underworld) but health condition of Koji Inada, the artist of DnD, was very bad at that time. So Sanjo decided to end the manga with Vearn in Flash of Light Arc!

phantomfandom said:
It's the return of the composer Yuki Hayashi that will turn any anime into the epic anime. He really have nothing to proved since he's already take on My Hero Academia with such a successful result, but with Dragon Quest it's a big statement that he's not a "one hit wonder", I already said it but I'll say it again that he has a potential to takeover the whole Dragon Quest franchise music from the late Koichi Sugiyama. Can't wait for the release of OST part 2!

StalkerFairy said:


>One Hit Wonder

My overrated Academy? Puhlease

Yaakuntik said:

I understand. I don't agree however. I think the storey was well written and thought out. Every character was used, even at the end they don't forget about the very minor fake heroes and they had a role to play.

There were no random power ups, all the power ups were explained and the heroes had to work hard to learn new spells/moves/techniques.

All the people that came back from being "dead" had a reason to come back and they explained how they came back ina way which made sense.

As far as characters being likeable or not, it's a matter of taste but for me personally, no character was so bad that made me hate them. Even among the villains, Zaboera was one of those characters that everyone seemed to hate but that was how it was supposed to be.

I think maybe you are judging this applying standards of the real world and real life we live in. Sure, in our reality, a "villain" or rather a bad person may not stand around and let you talk to your friends, if they want to kill you they might just shoot you and your friends right away. But don't forget this is a fantasy, and we are talking about beings that have powers beyond all human comprehension. They feel they have so much power that no one can stop them so of course they don't care if people talk for a bit or even they will stand and boast about their power because they are so sure of their victory. This happens even in movies, Avengers for example, Thanos was also like that, but that didn't stop most people from liking those movies.

For me this was an improvement from the original anime, not just in the animation but everything else. And the story itself was well written, the characters had a lot of growth and some of them had amazing development unlike in most me modern anime where a lot of the time characters do suffer from lack of development and the writers do give them random power ups that seem to come from nowhere.

And as far as some characters not having an important role, I think you mentioned Crocodine. Well did you forget he saved them more than a couple of times, like when he saved Hyunckel from burning under the lava, when he rescued Dai from Mystvearn and Zaboera, when he buried them all to save them from the Black Core explosion. And he was key in defeating the royal guard because with his move he got the shield off from Sigma. The poor guy did all he could with what power he had. It's just that towards the end, he was probably one of the weakest ones in the group so he couldn't do as much to help. It wouldn't have made sense for him to have had a major role in defeating Vearn.

So again, I hear your point but I don't agree with it all. But it is what it is, some people watch this anime and see what you see, and some people see what I see. I guess it all depends on what standards you apply to it.