In what way are we supposed to see Seita?

May 16, 2021 4:54 PM

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Do we need to see Seita as this hero brother that tries to care for his sister but it sadly leads to both of their deaths or do we need to see him as the reason his sister died because he was a prideful pain in the ass?

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May 16, 2021 6:32 PM

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The aunt is the reason they died. The kid did all he could.

May 16, 2021 7:36 PM

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The book that it's based off is actually one of almost self-loathing, in real life the authers sister apparently did die in much the same way as the film but he himself did not.

I don't think it's a case of him as a hero or not nor do I think it's solely the aunts fault, rather it's nobody fault. That's kinda the point of the movie, war makes victims of us all, espically the innocent.

May 16, 2021 11:18 PM

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Western audience tends to look for heroes and villains in the story, but some Miyazaki movies are not really shaped like that. Just see the story as it is and make your thoughts. That's the beauty of it.

May 16, 2021 11:57 PM

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WhatTheNaniii said:
Do we need to see Seita as this hero brother that tries to care for his sister but it sadly leads to both of their deaths or do we need to see him as the reason his sister died because he was a prideful pain in the ass?

I think seita didn't do that because of only pride, his aunty saw them as a problem and didn't even care about their life's all she care about is their resources. So,he don't need to cause trouble and also to make his little sister happy. And about his aunty she was selfish because the situation of war is like that,in order to servive. They are the victims of war.
When I saw the movie I had the same doubt but when you think deeper, seita is also a poor, pitiful kid who is thrown into a terrible situation like this. Back then, people had a very narrow mindset. so,this is what most of the people would react to that circumstance.

May 17, 2021 11:44 AM

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seita is less a character than a vechile to view the world at war and circumstances most japanese children that lived during this time of history. but to some extent seita is the hero for his intentions to do everything he can to help his little sister, weather this be stealing food for the two of them or rejecting his aunt orders to help other kids his age who are putting out fires that have started. seita wants to help his sister but he is only a kid himself and fails to do so in the conditions he is put in.

May 21, 2021 9:39 PM

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There is not really anyone's fault. He did all he could until the end.

May 24, 2021 7:31 PM

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Try to see Seita as a survivor doing all he can to keep him and his sister alive in this shitty world.

Jul 20, 2021 12:44 AM

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He did all he could? Lol, nah guys. Seita was scum. He decided letting his sister die was the better option over swallowing his pride. He then went and starved himself.

These were Takahata's intention however. Seita was supposed to be spoiled and prideful which lead to him trying to escape into his own world without pragmatically thinking anything through; hence, death.
Takahata also meant for the audience to sympathize with Seita.
We're definitely not supposed to see him as a hero brother.

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Aug 27, 2021 3:01 AM

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Let me remind the reason aunty angry is because Seita Laze around all day and not even try to stop his sister from crying out loud and disturbing everyone.

The movie never potray Seita as dependable hero. He's just as depressed and spoiled as his sister. Not listening to adult advice. And making a lot of unwise decision.

There are no hero and vilain in this story. It based on autobiography... which mean it could be based on real life experience. And there are no hero and vilain in real life. Only people in stressful situation trying to survive the harsh reality.

Nov 21, 2021 5:21 PM

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Seita was certainly prideful and made mistakes. I took it as an allegory of Japan's WWII stance, that they kept up the fighting until it's an unequivocal defeat, and a cautionary tale of letting pride ruin your life.

Dec 8, 2021 4:30 PM

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Seita is not a hero, he's a scumbag that cares about his pride more than his little sister, thus leading to their demise

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Seita is not a hero, he's a scumbag that cares about his pride more than his little sister, thus leading to their demise

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Dec 29, 2021 1:01 AM

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It was his own pride and immaturity that drove him to his death. Ofcourse, he wanted to be an idol for his younger sister on how to become self-independant. But the turns of event didn't favoured him .

Jan 5, 2022 10:38 PM

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He’s a kid why tf is everyone here so hateful towards him? He did what he could. It’s obviously a terrible situation caused by terrible people (the war). How are you going to hate on how a teen handles that situation? They were victims of war.

Jan 6, 2022 2:04 AM

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Everyone was just trying to survive in harsh conditions while dealing with it in their own ways. Seita should have swallowed his pride but clearly wasn't emotionally mature or wise enough to do so and the aunt could have been more caring but also had to look out for her own family while having two extra mouths to account for. It's just tragic all around.

Jan 12, 2022 4:37 PM

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Batman-518gpo said:
The aunt is the reason they died. The kid did all he could.

while I understand what you're saying, I will say this:

Yes, the asshole aunt made Seita's situation MUCH WORSE than it already was. Yes, she treated them like shit. Yes, she played favourites with her hubby and kid.

BUT, Seita's FIRST & MAIN PRIORITY should've been his little sister. Yes, he did what he could to survive. Yes, he SHOULD'VE done better. Yes, he could've prevented the death of his sister.

As an older brother, his baby sister should've come first. Always.

Jan 12, 2022 4:41 PM

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Seita could've & SHOULD'VE done better <talking strictly about his sister rn>

The last moments with his sister.. JEEZ, I've got SO MUCH I want to say GAAAHHH

Feb 2, 2022 2:30 AM

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AtypicalRJ said:

Batman-518gpo said:
The aunt is the reason they died. The kid did all he could.

Made much worse? Food and shelter was everything anyone could wish for in those times. She gave them both.
She was right that Seita should work and contribute. Seita is the one in the wrong here.

Feb 27, 2022 7:08 PM

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MakoInTheShell said:

Batman-518gpo said:
The aunt is the reason they died. The kid did all he could.

The main point is: he's like fucking 14 years old. He's still more or less half a child himself.
I don't think you can give a child any responsibility and put the blame on him in this and argue with a mature grown-up logic living in peace (I hope so ^^') about a child in a war situation.

Mar 19, 2022 7:17 PM

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I think this is one of those movies that you are not suppose to judge anyone or anything. There is no one in the film that is a bad/evil character. Were the Americans at fault? Was it the farmer or aunt's fault for not helping them more? The point of the story, imho is just to share a story. If we really want there to be a message or point to the film then it is probably: there isn't a good or bad. Each character had to do what they did because there was war. What really got me with this movie was the thought that, in China or Korea there is a brother and little sister just like that .... struggling to live after the Japanese invasion. In Japan, there is Setsuno and Seita. And even in America there is a brother and sister somewhere out there. Lots of folks say stuff like Seita should have done better... or the aunt should have done better... or the father should have done better... or the mother. But in the end, war is just one family fighting another family and both families will suffer.

Apr 26, 2022 5:09 AM

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You all just stop hating the boy
he did all he could till the end
its not because of any pride
do you really want to live in a house where someone sees you as a burden?
Just cmon if you were in his shoes you could've understood but no
that time all the people were in need so stop hating that boy I'm proud of him he did all he could and loved his sister so much so sit down
but on the other side I'm depressed too coz of how setsuko died but we can't do anything can we
Rest in peace seita and setsuko:(

Jun 1, 2022 1:08 PM

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War is... LE BAD

There, saved anyone here who hasn't seen the movie an hour and a half

Sep 1, 2022 8:59 PM

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YAHOOGAYCHATROOM said:
War is... LE BAD

There, saved anyone here who hasn't seen the movie an hour and a half

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