Najimi’s gender…..again

Feb 28, 2022 3:02 AM

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Kapi_the_Bean said:
Is anybody else vexed about Najimi’s pronouns in the dub? Instead of continuing the whole “(S)he” joke that started in the manga and was pretty well preserved in the dub, the dubbers decided, “Hey, let’s be politically correct and refer to him by they/them”. Najimi’s ambiguous gender was pretty much part of his whole personality and I honestly felt that they killed that joke by deciding on neutral pronouns for him

Neutral pronouns are how you refer to someone whose gender you don't know. It's not "being politically correct," it's using the English language correctly.

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Feb 28, 2022 5:56 AM

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Man I want Japan to get into wokeness more and more so that dude bro incels will all collectively leave this fandom.

LMAO SAME! Joining the prayers

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SFirebolt said:
Man I want Japan to get into wokeness more and more so that dude bro incels will all collectively leave this fandom.

LMAO SAME! Joining the prayers 🙏

to hell with that woke shit

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Feb 28, 2022 6:04 AM

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SFirebolt said:
Man I want Japan to get into wokeness more and more so that dude bro incels will all collectively leave this fandom.

to hell with that hot take they should never

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Feb 28, 2022 7:05 AM

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Idk man. They/them pronouns work if you don’t know someone’s gender pretty well. Either way, Najimi isn’t male or female, they’re Najimi. Their gender is Najimi.

Feb 28, 2022 8:18 AM

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nonofyourbeeswax said:

SFirebolt said:
Man I want Japan to get into wokeness more and more so that dude bro incels will all collectively leave this fandom.

to hell with that hot take they should never

Cry about it incel <3

Feb 28, 2022 8:22 AM

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SFirebolt said:

nonofyourbeeswax said:

to hell with that hot take they should never

Cry about it incel <3

oh man you really got me their I'm literally crying right now you mentally broke me now this is so sad

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Feb 28, 2022 8:23 AM

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nonofyourbeeswax said:

SFirebolt said:

Cry about it incel <3

oh man you really got me their I'm literally crying right now you mentally broke me now this is so sad

Okay, incel <3 Glad you’re crying about it.

Feb 28, 2022 8:26 AM

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SFirebolt said:

nonofyourbeeswax said:

oh man you really got me their I'm literally crying right now you mentally broke me now this is so sad

Okay, incel <3 Glad you’re crying about it.

me after SFirebolt called me incel

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Feb 28, 2022 8:41 AM

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SFirebolt said:

nonofyourbeeswax said:

to hell with that hot take they should never

Cry about it incel <3

hey bro I got news for you shut the fuck up I ain't got time for some prepuberty teen calling me an incel. You're the type to yell at you're mom when the hotpockets aren't ready. You're the type who moans when you wipe you're ass. You are a worthless piece of shit.

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Feb 28, 2022 8:55 AM

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nonofyourbeeswax said:

SFirebolt said:

Cry about it incel <3

hey bro I got news for you shut the fuck up I ain't got time for some prepuberty teen calling me an incel. You're the type to yell at you're mom when the hotpockets aren't ready. You're the type who moans when you wipe you're ass. You are a worthless piece of shit.

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Feb 28, 2022 8:59 AM

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Kenokiri said:

nonofyourbeeswax said:

hey bro I got news for you shut the fuck up I ain't got time for some prepuberty teen calling me an incel. You're the type to yell at you're mom when the hotpockets aren't ready. You're the type who moans when you wipe you're ass. You are a worthless piece of shit.

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oh go fuck yourself

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Feb 28, 2022 3:26 PM

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I it would ruin the joke because instead of using both he and she and making it into a joke najimi has a

Oh so your saying they should use he sometimes and she other times? Yeah I reckon that’s better than they/them. Personally I don’t like using they/them because it just doesn’t seem grammatically correct to me but I think it’s important not to cement Najimis gender as one or the other for the sake of the joke.

They/Them can can be used in a singular sense when the gender is unknown or ambiguous. For example, the sentence “you shouldn’t judge a person by the way they look”, or “if your partner is abusive then you should leave them”. Both of those sentences refer to a single person.

Feb 28, 2022 3:42 PM

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nonofyourbeeswax said:

SFirebolt said:

Cry about it incel <3

hey bro I got news for you shut the fuck up I ain't got time for some prepuberty teen calling me an incel. You're the type to yell at you're mom when the hotpockets aren't ready. You're the type who moans when you wipe you're ass. You are a worthless piece of shit.

Sounds like something an incel would say.

Feb 28, 2022 3:42 PM

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truth999 said:

I it would ruin the joke because instead of using both he and she and making it into a joke najimi has a

Oh so your saying they should use he sometimes and she other times? Yeah I reckon that’s better than they/them. Personally I don’t like using they/them because it just doesn’t seem grammatically correct to me but I think it’s important not to cement Najimis gender as one or the other for the sake of the joke.

They/Them can can be used in a singular sense when the gender is unknown or ambiguous. For example, the sentence “you shouldn’t judge a person by the way they look”, or “if your partner is abusive then you should leave them”. Both of those sentences refer to a single person.[/

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FreshSalmon827 said:

Oh so your saying they should use he sometimes and she other times? Yeah I reckon that’s better than they/them. Personally I don’t like using they/them because it just doesn’t seem grammatically correct to me but I think it’s important not to cement Najimis gender as one or the other for the sake of the joke.

They/Them can can be used in a singular sense when the gender is unknown or ambiguous. For example, the sentence “you shouldn’t judge a person by the way they look”, or “if your partner is abusive then you should leave them”. Both of those sentences refer to a single person.

True. Maybe it’s when it’s in reference to a specific person or the specific person is the subject of the sentence using they or them doesn’t sound right to me but in those cases it does. I think when it’s already established that you are referring to a single person then, they/them is correct as gender neutral pronoun. But when it is not known if you a speaking about a single person like in, “that’s what they said” it seems like a collective or group of people are being referenced.
I’ve never met anyone who wants to be referred to as they and them as opposed to he/him or she/her so I’ve never faced this dilemma before.

Feb 28, 2022 11:28 PM

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SFirebolt said:

nonofyourbeeswax said:

hey bro I got news for you shut the fuck up I ain't got time for some prepuberty teen calling me an incel. You're the type to yell at you're mom when the hotpockets aren't ready. You're the type who moans when you wipe you're ass. You are a worthless piece of shit.

Sounds like something an incel would say.

just shut the fuck up please just shut the fuck up

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Mar 1, 2022 8:50 AM

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Who cares? It doesn’t affect you at all so just chill out

Mar 1, 2022 9:07 AM

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the dubbers want to bring in more people and the lgbtq community is gonna babyrage on twitter or something if najimi doesnt become a they

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Mar 4, 2022 9:18 AM

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Kapi_the_Bean said:
Is anybody else vexed about Najimi’s pronouns in the dub? Instead of continuing the whole “(S)he” joke that started in the manga and was pretty well preserved in the dub, the dubbers decided, “Hey, let’s be politically correct and refer to him by they/them”. Najimi’s ambiguous gender was pretty much part of his whole personality and I honestly felt that they killed that joke by deciding on neutral pronouns for him

thou shalt not watch dubbed anime should be a commandment in the anime bible.

Mar 6, 2022 9:05 AM

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Mar 6, 2022 12:45 PM

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There's only one correct answer to the matter, which is Najimi is Najimi

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Mar 6, 2022 1:23 PM

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Najimi goes back and forth saying they are a girl/boy in the dub, I don't see how anything has really changed. If other people refer to Najimi as "they" it's kind of because they don't have an exclusively male/female gender, not because it is politically correct. Najimi is technically non-binary by cannon, but don't take that too seriously, because anime is more often aiming to do wacky things with gender rather than to portray such things in any kind of realistic or legitimate way.

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Mar 6, 2022 1:38 PM

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I hate characters like najimi tbh

Fr I'm not a fan of transgender but like ok it exists but like if your gonna put it in anime I enjoy just give them a gender just cause the character is confused about themselves doesn't mean I have to be confused too

Gender is basically irrelevant for a "trap" character, the relevant information is that this is a male (sex) who looks like a girl and or dresses like one. Now, since trap is a comedic trope, more serious portrayals of trans or non-binary individuals should exist outside of that trope, but they are exceedingly rare for anime. Najimi is a trap character, and should be treated as such, posing serious questions about their gender identity is unreasonable.

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Mar 29, 2022 12:46 PM

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I wish they would keep non-binary and trans freaks out of ANY media, or better yet just stop existing. 41%

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