| I don't think you can counter the show being grooming and literally illegal sorry dude |
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AbelNhom said: Well its a show about the relationship between a high school girl and an employed man. Sure in most country its unacceptable, so thats mainly why. I believe this is normal in Japan, so in Japan I think this show dont get that much hate. But its not very popular either, so IDK. It's unacceptable in Japan too but this is fiction. |
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| He isn’t doing anything bad. Ichika likes Ryou so what’s the problem. She’s not 10, she’s 17. |
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liliyoa said: I don't think you can counter the show being grooming and literally illegal sorry dude It's amazing that this keeps coming up as if it had any basis in fact. This has been addressed countless times. Pedophilia is sexual attraction to prepubescent children, which is indeed illegal, but not what's going on in Koikimo. Furthermore, they have not engaged in anything sexual, and even if they had, she's of sufficient age to consent in all but a small handful of countries. The worst you can accuse this show of is being creepy, but of course, this is all assuming, since these terms have been used in the context of "legality," that any of it applies to fiction in the first place. But hey, if you still need to learn the difference between your opinions and legal definitions, maybe you need to go through puberty yourself. As for OP's question, Instagram is basically Facebook - everyone wants to be promoted based on what they post, and if vandalizing your innocuous comment will get them liked, agreed with, and one step closer to being able to monetize their social fuckery, they won't hesitate. Not worth the headache dealing with them. Wiz-Pip said: Even if I put aside the weird age gap, the male lead is insufferable. He’s possessive, childish, and has no concept of personal boundaries. To make matters worse, Ichika slowly starts to fall for him as well. This completely validates Ryo’s obnoxious behavior, which is just agonizing for me. It also really doesn’t help that the production values of this show are abyssal. The color palette is dull and the sound quality is distracting. On the other hand, these kinds of perspectives I actually appreciate. I can acknowledge opinions when they're not presented in some kind of "anyone who thinks this is acceptable needs to be thrown in jail" condemnation. |
brenobluhm said: What do you think the age of consent is in Japan dude?liliyoa said: The show is set in Japan and this relationship is not “literally ilegal” there, it’s actually not illegal at all.I don't think you can counter the show being grooming and literally illegal sorry dude |
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brenobluhm said: liliyoa said: It used to be 13 nationally, now ir changes depending on the city. I’m pretty sure it’s less than 17 in Tokyo so their relationship is definitely not breaking any laws.What do you think the age of consent is in Japan dude? Age of consent in Tokyo is 18, and if you have to say "Well it's TECHNICALLY legal!" That's still fuckin weird. It's not 13 that's the national MINIMUM age of consent. And that's for 13 year olds consenting to each other, not a grown man. When you google the age of consent it says 13 as an oversimplification and then no one ever reads the article. |
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| As a girl Ichika's age and as someone who's friend got groomed, it's a show where a nearly 20 year old man harasses this teenager until she gives in. Not a good look. |
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brenobluhm said: liliyoa said: Any sources on the Tokyo age of consent being 18? Also I do think 13 is a weird age of consent, that’s why I prefer the age of consent in my country (16 years old).Age of consent in Tokyo is 18, and if you have to say "Well it's TECHNICALLY legal!" That's still fuckin weird. It was never 13 that's the national MINIMUM age of consent. " In Japan the age of consent is low at 13, although some municipalities such as Tokyo prohibit sexual activity under 18 years old in most circumstances." https://www.theweek.co.uk/92121/ages-of-consent-around-the-world https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/japan https://historyofyesterday.com/why-is-the-age-of-consent-in-japan-only-13-year-old-e4363d0ea679 The age of consent is 13 for *other* 13 year olds. The history of yesterday article even has a chart. |
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| People should stop worrying about the age of consent until they actually have sex. |
brenobluhm said: romero & juliet laws bro no ones trying to put that in jail.liliyoa said: Yeah, age of consent in 18 is truly stupid imo. It turns a relationship between a 19 year old and a 17 year old into something criminal when in many times we actually see couples with these ages. Imagine a 19 year old dude having sex with a 17 year old girlfriend and being judged as a raper because of this age of consent. Yikes." In Japan the age of consent is low at 13, although some municipalities such as Tokyo prohibit sexual activity under 18 years old in most circumstances." https://www.theweek.co.uk/92121/ages-of-consent-around-the-world https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/japan https://historyofyesterday.com/why-is-the-age-of-consent-in-japan-only-13-year-old-e4363d0ea679 The age of consent is 13 for *other* 13 year olds. The history of yesterday article even has a chart. |
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HatTrickPatrick said: He hasn't done anything yet that would get him thrown in jail but he's harassing and trying to court a minor. If he tried to do anything more he'd get charged. In Japan where this takes place it'd be a crime, none of this "handful of countries" bullshit. tf is wrong with you lmaoliliyoa said: I don't think you can counter the show being grooming and literally illegal sorry dude It's amazing that this keeps coming up as if it had any basis in fact. This has been addressed countless times. Pedophilia is sexual attraction to prepubescent children, which is indeed illegal, but not what's going on in Koikimo. Furthermore, they have not engaged in anything sexual, and even if they had, she's of sufficient age to consent in all but a small handful of countries. The worst you can accuse this show of is being creepy, but of course, this is all assuming, since these terms have been used in the context of "legality," that any of it applies to fiction in the first place. But hey, if you still need to learn the difference between your opinions and legal definitions, maybe you need to go through puberty yourself. As for OP's question, Instagram is basically Facebook - everyone wants to be promoted based on what they post, and if vandalizing your innocuous comment will get them liked, agreed with, and one step closer to being able to monetize their social fuckery, they won't hesitate. Not worth the headache dealing with them. Wiz-Pip said: Even if I put aside the weird age gap, the male lead is insufferable. He’s possessive, childish, and has no concept of personal boundaries. To make matters worse, Ichika slowly starts to fall for him as well. This completely validates Ryo’s obnoxious behavior, which is just agonizing for me. It also really doesn’t help that the production values of this show are abyssal. The color palette is dull and the sound quality is distracting. On the other hand, these kinds of perspectives I actually appreciate. I can acknowledge opinions when they're not presented in some kind of "anyone who thinks this is acceptable needs to be thrown in jail" condemnation. |
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| For me it's the characters. It's mainly Ryo, but the other characters weren't the best either, none of them were able to keep me watching the series. |
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| For me, this show is my first age gap romance show. It's quite funny at times. I especially like the manipulative-yet-caring little sister. But despite being sincere, the stalker and masochist tendencies of the MMC bring down the enjoyment level by quite a bit. Otherwise this would have been a wholesome and cute romcom even with the age difference. I treat them as just fiction and just something to entertain me and leave it at that. However, I can also understand why people would feel disgusted by the show. There will also be others who view such relationships as taboo due to legal and social norms that is prevalent. The less than savory methods used by the MMC doesn't help either. You don't need to counter such people. You like the show because of your own reasons. They dislike it because of their own reasons. Opinions on entertainment is not something that can be countered with logic since they are subjective. |
| Best ending line in anime history = "My name is Saiki Kusuo. I am a psychic." |
| Thread locked for breaking rule #5 of AD. The initial question started fine, but the posts are becoming more about pedophilia than the anime itself. Anime Discussion Rules 5: Please refrain from posting thread topics which extend beyond the discussion of anime/manga as an entertainment medium to highly-debated social and/or moral issues. This includes but is not limited to: pedophilia, gender/racial equality, sexual orientation, etc. OP's question might also be a better fit for the General Advice Thread. |
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