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Jun 4, 2021 10:45 AM

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Would have liked the animation to be better for this, can clearly see the drop in quality every time there is a battle.

Shun was as annoying as usual trying to play the hero, was pretty happy that at least that blond guy had a level head when he told them to bail on the elves. They can barely protect themselves and all of a sudden want to fight for the elves who treat them like shit.

No one on the human side has their priorities set and it is very frustrating to watch. Sensei especially, if she really wanted to save and protect the students then siding with the elves is obviously a dumb idea.
Jun 4, 2021 10:53 AM
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Studio Millepensee fr getting comfortable with ramping up the CGI.

Five years ago they helped produce Berserk 2016 as foreshadowing for the fall in this show's animation...
Jun 4, 2021 10:54 AM
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My guess and the current leading theory of us anime only's is that she's 'white', or the chick working for the demon lord who killed Julius and poisoned the barrier.

Although I do expect her to betray Ariel at one point considering what the administrator said, and also the fact that she had her eyes closed and seemed to be almost psychologically sealed/imprisoned when we first saw her.

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Jun 4, 2021 11:04 AM
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Ok time to post some Anime-LN differences of the content of this episode.

- Kunihiko's sword is made with Thunder Dragon pieces and inherited the Thunder attacks.

- Asaka's wand is made with Wind Dragon pieces and has the effect of greatly increase the effects of Wind elemental magic.

- In the LN Shun is the one that tells Hyrince and Anna about the reincarnations because he doesn't want to keep secrets from them, this makes sense because Anna is essentially Shun's Mother and Hyrince was Julius best fried and almost a bigger brother for Shun.
This was supposed to happen before the party enter the Great Elroe Labyrinth.

- In the LN Sensei reveals Sophia's identity and the true behind the administrators to Shun & Co in their way through Sariella.

- (Skipped scene) There's a scene were Fei finds a group of Elves using Anna as a punching bag.
Fei jumps immediately to defend Anna but Anna stops her saying that this the normal relationship between Elves and Half-Elves.

- (Skipped scene) Anna's backstory


- (Skipped Scene) Shinohara Mirei's (Fei) morivation to bully Wakaba Hiro


- (Skipped Scene) Never trust the guy with the closed eyes.


- In the LN Hugo's armor is the one showed in episode 12. That armor is made with unspecified Dragon bones and it's the main culprit of Hugo been immune to Oka's magic.

- Hugo's sword is madre from Dark Dragon's pieces and inherited the Dark Breath Attack.

- Oka's arrows are enchanted with Wind Magic that make them fly faster, in straight line and give them enough force to go through full armor soldiers. In a nutshell, the arrows basically act as canon balls.

- Yuri gaves Oka a full speech about how Elves are evil and they should be send to hell and says to Oka that her soul can still be saved if she's able to endure the trials... Obviously she means torture.

- Yuri recieve Oka's arrow and as I mentioned earlier those arrows act more as canon balls, so Yuri ended flying trought the air and with a huge hole in her left shoulder, her arm was basically semi amputated and is barely hold in place by some strings of meat.
Jun 4, 2021 11:05 AM
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good thing he’s not the mc
yeah he should honestly just die he doesnt even try to improve his skills or anything hes fucking useless


Why everyone hates Shun? I dont get it. He tries to help other & stay useless cause Oka asked him to not use his skill points. He’s just boring, that’s all.
Jun 4, 2021 11:06 AM
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I absolutely hate shun and his party this whole episode I was rooting for Hugo
Jun 4, 2021 11:06 AM
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I absolutely hate shun and his party this whole episode I was rooting for Hugo
Jun 4, 2021 11:07 AM

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Ok kinda week episode... I wanted to see more kumoko, or at least a better animation, like this episode was so badly animated that I was kinda getting the berserk feels... well let's hope that they are just saving strength for kumoko parts.
Jun 4, 2021 11:10 AM
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_Haruhi_Fujioka_ said:
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yeah he should honestly just die he doesnt even try to improve his skills or anything hes fucking useless


Why everyone hates Shun? I dont get it. He tries to help other & stay useless cause Oka asked him to not use his skill points. He’s just boring, that’s all.
i dislike him cause he has perfect morals and acts like a hero and does stuff like “im gonna save everyone” and its kind of cliched i think
Jun 4, 2021 11:27 AM
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JosephDrybrough said:
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Why everyone hates Shun? I dont get it. He tries to help other & stay useless cause Oka asked him to not use his skill points. He’s just boring, that’s all.
i dislike him cause he has perfect morals and acts like a hero and does stuff like “im gonna save everyone” and its kind of cliched i think

So a personal reason I guess. I’m not dislike Shun or anyone in the reincarnated class bc Im interested in what they turned into.
Jun 4, 2021 11:40 AM
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Was a good episode for progressing the story but kinda sadge because only 10 seconds of spider. This can only mean we get more of her next week.
Jun 4, 2021 11:41 AM
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Kind of disappointed, I hated the class m8s storyline from the beginning and waiting a week for a pure classm8 episode is not what I hoped.
Jun 4, 2021 11:47 AM

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Holy shit, low budget hentai from 20 years ago have better animation than this episode. It was painful to watch...
Jun 4, 2021 11:55 AM
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What type of episode is if mc is absent?
Jun 4, 2021 11:59 AM

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Kind of disappointed, I hated the class m8s storyline from the beginning and waiting a week for a pure classm8 episode is not what I hoped.

Kumuko became a side character in her own show.
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Jun 4, 2021 12:27 PM

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normally i let animation slide just cuz Kumo's VA alone carry the whole episode.. but without Kumo. this just felt like a empty emotionless bad cgi, low effort animation pile of garbage..
tho.. atleast the plot is engaging.. to say the very least..
Jun 4, 2021 12:38 PM

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It's a shame that the animation on this show is so bad. As usual, the fights are a confusing mess. Just to name one of the many things, weren't they supposed to fight in a forest? We even see some elves hiding in the trees but all we see during the fight is a wasteland xD.

Yuri is so crazy, she doesn't even need Hugo to brainwash her lol. It was hilarious how sensei shot her out of nowhere in the back. Am I crazy or did sensei say to hang on a little longer just before the battle? xD

I didn't expect sensei to reveal about the reincarnations to Hyrince and the elf who for some reason is not well liked within her race. Interesting belief of the elves about the gods/administrators but I really don't trust them and honestly, they don't do anything to endear themselves to others as we saw in this episode.

It seems that the spider girl commander is the one who deactivated the barrier. Kusama seems like a fun guy and I'm guessing the guy at the end is the last of his classmates.

I hope they put at least a little more quality in the fight between Shun and Hugo. Come on Hugo, nobody likes you, die already.
Jun 4, 2021 12:41 PM

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Based on the title of the episode I fully expected Kumoko (the one we know anyway) would not be in it. There was either no time to include her or simply the focus of the episode was on the present time developments.
I think the most impressive thing about Hugo is that he does't seem to have realized that he is just a useful idiot in all this; a mere figurehead. He is so drunk on power though so much that, even if he knew, he might not care.

The battle itself was OK but the art of the battle was quite frankly appalling. Most of it was CGI and a very low grade one at that; not Orange level CGI but "Cestvs: The Roman Fighter" level CGI.. :/ Hugo in particular was horribly drawn and animated.

I just looked up Millepensee and recalled that they are the ones who did (along with GEMBA) the last two utterly disastrous seasons of Berserk. CGI should always be avoided in anime unless the animators know how to do it right. It appears that the guys of Millepensee have not yet learnt the lessons from their recent Berserk calamity and they keep using CGI (thankfully just for battle sequences...) even though they still lack the expertise to do it right.

By the way, I never expected Oka-chan would kill one of her students. That was quite a surprise.. Was Yuri mind controlled or just a fanatic follower of that religion? Before Hugo got that Lust mind controlling skill she was still saying weird shit about believers vs non believers, that people who have taboo skills should be killed etc In that battle she just seemed a little bit more fanatic (and crazy) than she already was..
Jun 4, 2021 12:41 PM
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I want to cry, it was so bad.


agreed. Episodes like this might cause me to never recommend this anime to a friend.
Jun 4, 2021 12:44 PM

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The human side of the story is just so boring and uninspired. To top it all off, bad animation, even more horrible CGI, and no focus on Kumoko at all just made this episode such a waste of time to watch.
Jun 4, 2021 12:44 PM
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Ok... I'm sure there are people out there who like the other characters and their involvement in the story and whatever. And I'm glad, really, I'm happy you're happy... But I can't be the only one who jumped on this train for the novelty of having a spider protagonist, right?

I mean, come on... If I wanted to see every generic iseaki ever, I would literally see any other generic isekai ever. (there are quite a few, btw)
Every time an episode centered on the rest of the cast comes along a part of me dies inside. I literally DON'T CARE about any of them. The most charming character of the bunch is... Actually I don't know, because they have no charm to speak of. They could be walking planks of wood with a piece of paper listing the trope they represent and the show wouldn't change in the slightest.

And if you want an example of something else deeply wrong with the show, take this episode: decided to do the climax of this little mini ark the teacher character had, but that really doesn't work all that well when it's 2 episodes of ham fisted exposition followed by 2 minutes of fighting! This thing would have been waaayyy better off as a 12 episode show focused on nothing but spider gal doing spider things, instead we got a hot mess of convoluted "storytelling" without even the courtesy of any eye candy to sweeten the pot. This thing had potential, but any and all possible joy it could have produced has been snuffed out by contrive plot points and pointless digressions, and this episode is the PERFECT microcosm of JUST THAT.

But whatever, I made it through 21 episodes of this bs, might as well grit my teeth for the final 3. I can promise you that I won't be looking back fondly on this show, though...
Jun 4, 2021 1:06 PM
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I made it through 21 episodes of this bs, might as well grit my teeth for the final 3. I can promise you that I won't be looking back fondly on this show, though...


Well the light novels are way better. Freaking cheap made animation by a studio that skips a hell of a lot important stuff to jam everything in 24 episodes which they could have made into a 50+ episode season.

As for you guys who says that there was no Kumoko in this episode.... Did you really miss her? She was in this episode. Though no line to say.. sadly enough.

I hope this ends with the way it did in the novel; Long time no see, teacher.
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Jun 4, 2021 1:06 PM

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lame, bad, no kumo no me.


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What's up with the animation, was it always this bad
It always has been very bad but some episodes were even worse, this was one of them

everything about this episode was just... lame
Lets be honest here we are all
here for Kumo, and studio knows how better Kumo screen time is compared to the human side.
Jun 4, 2021 1:13 PM
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Its always nice to have vets in time of crisis. Their combat skills and intel will be most useful. The elves though sure have a surprising level of arrogance in them though. Surely limiting their enemies entry vectors will be beneficial to the overall defence. Given that the war is almost upon them Filmo's deciding to come clean with the secrets was the best move possible. The strategy meeting though was interesting. Trying to determine whether your previous friends are neutral or enemies in this new world was pretty chilling. Its unfortunate that the elves refusal to seal the barrier allowed the enemy to infiltrate. For Filmo's though having to fight her students on the battlefield has to be the worst situation ever. Yuri though really has gone off at the deep end. Hugo's new skill while boosting his offensive skills massively was also one that complemented his personality pretty well. Looks like its time for the rematch between Hugo and Schlain. Overall a balance ep that combined excellent lore expansion and revelation for Schlain and his team and action via the beginning of the war.
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Jun 4, 2021 1:23 PM

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lame, bad, no kumo no me.


z00nex said:
It always has been very bad but some episodes were even worse, this was one of them

everything about this episode was just... lame
Lets be honest here we are all
here for Kumo, and studio knows how better Kumo screen time is compared to the human side.


Speak for yourself, alot of us aren't watching this "just for the spider"
Jun 4, 2021 1:31 PM
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Why everyone hates Shun? I dont get it. He tries to help other & stay useless cause Oka asked him to not use his skill points. He’s just boring, that’s all.
i dislike him cause he has perfect morals and acts like a hero and does stuff like “im gonna save everyone” and its kind of cliched i think

He doesnt actually have perfect morals, he is just an idiot mimicking Julius. His brother was a true hero, Shun is a very bad imitation. Also, Shun doesnt even stop to think about the consequences of his actions. How does he expect to defeat Sophia is beyond me, he is probably expecting some plot armor.
Jun 4, 2021 1:38 PM
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JosephDrybrough said:
i dislike him cause he has perfect morals and acts like a hero and does stuff like “im gonna save everyone” and its kind of cliched i think

He doesnt actually have perfect morals, he is just an idiot mimicking Julius. His brother was a true hero, Shun is a very bad imitation. Also, Shun doesnt even stop to think about the consequences of his actions. How does he expect to defeat Sophia is beyond me, he is probably expecting some plot armor.
exactly he didnt even try to improve his skills or train or anything and hes acting like everything will work out because hes fighting for justice or some shit
Jun 4, 2021 1:38 PM

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No Kumo in this episode, so I didn't like the episode ...
Jun 4, 2021 1:42 PM
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JosephDrybrough said:
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He doesnt actually have perfect morals, he is just an idiot mimicking Julius. His brother was a true hero, Shun is a very bad imitation. Also, Shun doesnt even stop to think about the consequences of his actions. How does he expect to defeat Sophia is beyond me, he is probably expecting some plot armor.
exactly he didnt even try to improve his skills or train or anything and hes acting like everything will work out because hes fighting for justice or some shit

In a way, he is quite similar to the heroes of Tate no Yuusha (besides Naofumi).
Jun 4, 2021 1:44 PM
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Kinda wanted the sensei to die (She a bitch)
Jun 4, 2021 1:46 PM

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I am barely tolerating this adaptation... The entire depiction, forget about animation, feels wrong. Where did a desert battlefield come from? Why does Sophia appear smug, not nonchalant? Why is Lady Whitey always depicted like a movie poster viewed from different angles?

The human side was actually more interesting for me than whatever Kumo was doing these parts of the novel, because it helped me get more ideas about how the world might work; and simply because their fates would be more interesting than Kumoko's. I mean, who isn't interested regarding how Shun gets his a$$ handed to him?
But the anime kinda turned the human side into an eyesore only really serious viewers can salvage.

I'll survive to the end somehow. For the love of D, I wouldn't want a second season with this level of commitment. Bless Aoi Yuki though.
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Jun 4, 2021 2:08 PM

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I mean, who isn't interested regarding how Shun gets his a$$ handed to him?

Shun & harem have a dreadnaught level of plot armour, nothing will happen to them, if they got beaten they will forget about it after a good night sleep.
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Jun 4, 2021 2:12 PM

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I was expecting to see MORE Kumoko this episode, but instead I saw NO Kumoko.
This is frustrating. Now I have to wait one more week to see my favorite kawai spider.
Jun 4, 2021 2:18 PM
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Ok... I'm sure there are people out there who like the other characters and their involvement in the story and whatever. And I'm glad, really, I'm happy you're happy... But I can't be the only one who jumped on this train for the novelty of having a spider protagonist, right?

That is where the viewerbase is divided.
I started this anime precisely because of the spider, however the story and overall plot seemed interesting. But shitstain and his party just became unbearable for me, not the humans themselves, just this side. The demons and monsters are great too.

Bladed_Asskicker said:

I mean, come on... If I wanted to see every generic iseaki ever, I would literally see any other generic isekai ever. (there are quite a few, btw)
Every time an episode centered on the rest of the cast comes along a part of me dies inside. I literally DON'T CARE about any of them. The most charming character of the bunch is... Actually I don't know, because they have no charm to speak of. They could be walking planks of wood with a piece of paper listing the trope they represent and the show wouldn't change in the slightest.

They did become unbearable, so I just played it at 16x the speed, until I got to the other interesting parts (Kumoko, other humans, demons, monsters, etc.) now I can't even bear that so I just skip parts entirely. Even as trope characters, they just fail completely for me.

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And if you want an example of something else deeply wrong with the show, take this episode: decided to do the climax of this little mini ark the teacher character had, but that really doesn't work all that well when it's 2 episodes of ham fisted exposition followed by 2 minutes of fighting! This thing would have been waaayyy better off as a 12 episode show focused on nothing but spider gal doing spider things, instead we got a hot mess of convoluted "storytelling" without even the courtesy of any eye candy to sweeten the pot. This thing had potential, but any and all possible joy it could have produced has been snuffed out by contrive plot points and pointless digressions, and this episode is the PERFECT microcosm of JUST THAT.

Took me hours to understand the plot, the fact that there are about 3 timelines till about ep 3 and then it's mostly 2 (I think, stopped really caring) + the constant jumping around n stuff... really doesn't help the average anime watcher, and makes a bad case for the anime itself.
I skipped around the episode and am rooting for Hugo, but that is about that, don't care about it at all.
However, I actually don't agree with the complete separation of everything else besides Kumoko. Because I enjoyed the other aspects of the show, sometimes almost as much as Kumoko's struggles for survival and her just being a funny doofus.

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But whatever, I made it through 21 episodes of this bs, might as well grit my teeth for the final 3. I can promise you that I won't be looking back fondly on this show, though...

Same, 6/10 at best though. Plus considering what I've read and was told about the LN (true and best form to experience the story) and Manga (no Shitstain party and I think barely any humans)... might as well just look for a better story.
The fact that the author has it out for the standard isekai hero tropes AND MADE THIS SIDE OF HIS STORY INTENTIONALLY BAD, just makes this a bad story in my opinion... I would understand it if there was heavy character developmnet in relation to Kumoko's struggles and the labyrinth arc, but as I've read, that isn't really the case...
Hence, I have to agree that this story is wasted potential.

Side note:
Funnily enough Kingdom has bad adaptation for 2 out of 3 seasons, but the quality of the story, characters and setting outweighed the bad adaptation for me :D. Plus season 3 is looking like a 10/10.
Jun 4, 2021 2:21 PM

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Wow... is it this that I'm watching
-So I'm a Spider, So What?
Or is it this after all
-So we are boring students that are not interesting in any way and we just do random stuff, So what?

This was so bad I'm actually sad I didn't go to sleep instead of watching this episode.
Jun 4, 2021 2:21 PM
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I was expecting to see MORE Kumoko this episode, but instead I saw NO Kumoko.
This is frustrating. Now I have to wait one more week to see my favorite kawai spider.


T_T I feel you man.
And it's not even guaranteed that she'll be in the next one.
Best we can hope is 1/2 of the next episode :D
Jun 4, 2021 2:24 PM
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Wow... is it this that I'm watching
-So I'm a Spider, So What?
Or is it this after all
-So we are boring students that are not interesting in any way and we just do random stuff, So what?

This was so bad I'm actually sad I didn't go to sleep instead of watching this episode.

It's probably the "So What?" part of the title at this point.
Now I am glad I skipped around... hope you get to see something better later.

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Jun 4, 2021 2:25 PM
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Why everyone hates Shun? I dont get it. He tries to help other & stay useless cause Oka asked him to not use his skill points. He’s just boring, that’s all.
i dislike him cause he has perfect morals and acts like a hero and does stuff like “im gonna save everyone” and its kind of cliched i think

It doesn't work like that in this story.
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if he keeps trying to save everyone, he is going to doom everyone instead.

Too bad they can't turn plot armour into energy. If they could, reprocessing him would reverse entropy.
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Jun 4, 2021 3:14 PM
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The only good thing about this episode was the awesome outro music. This CGI shit is a joke. And who cares about anything besides Best Girl/Spider
Jun 4, 2021 3:15 PM
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this episode fucking sucked ngl. i only watch for kumoko, and barely trudge through the weak, generic-ass isekai humans for the worldbuilding, but the animation was a kick in the teeth this time. if this combo of Shun-shite and bad animation is what the last few episodes is gonna end the season on, I'll be so very disappointed.
Jun 4, 2021 3:40 PM

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Damnit Millepensee stop ruining Sophia!!!
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Why there's have two shopia? A little shopia with kumo 🤔 it's same?
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the animation in this anime is A$$ the CGI is 100x better
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Big yikes for a episode. The anime had a solid 20 good episodes until this one... maybe my wishes of having all episode be perfect were too good to be true. haha

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Jun 4, 2021 4:35 PM

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Yikes this episode was an absolute trainwreck haha.
Jun 4, 2021 4:42 PM

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Interested in why the admins want the reincarnations and what Ariel and Potimas' real goals are.

It was an Okay episode. Yuri isn't dead Oka wouldnt kill her own student and Hugo is dumb as rocks for thinking that.

Yes the animation was hot trash.

Now give us Kumo
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Jun 4, 2021 4:43 PM

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Epi 14 levels of amateurish animation right here.

At least budget is being saved for the 3 fights that matter the most...all of them Kumo ones.

Also, they prolly only going to show human side again by last/second last episode, and not even be even 40% of an episode, I guess.

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Why there's have two shopia? A little shopia with kumo 🤔 it's same?


Of course they are. Vampires, same hair and eye colors, reincarnators...and same name.

Spider side is 15 years in the past, dude. Was mentioned multiple times (Ronaldt, Basgath, even D second talk with Kumoko, who is the most obvious one, as she mentions everyone is still a baby while she just unlocked premiun evolution).

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the animation in this anime is A$$ the CGI is 100x better


Different studios. Milipense does the humans side, and they were the one who did Berserk 2016...
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Jun 4, 2021 4:47 PM

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No Kumoko - 5/5.

Jokes aside, humans' story is still 10 times better than whatever our lovely spider is trying to accomplish. It's not like Kumoko's part is bad or anything, it's sure fun and and have a lot of cool moments, but script wise it's pure garbage most of a time (doesn't mean I don't enjoy it though cause it's comedy gold).
So I'm really glad we finally got a full human-episode.

I also hope we'll get a second season somewhere in the future. It's obvious that this whole story is just a beginning before the main events. Or it just seems that way.

As for new ep - cool fights, intense plot and godawful art.
Jun 4, 2021 4:49 PM

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Seriously if they gonna CGI both Sophia and Hugo might as well CGI up Oka sensei too, cause she looks so fucking bad. Hugo's action scene is ironically so fucking fluid and nice, the part where he got bombarded with arrows and he reflected all of them was really smooth and fluid. Then everything went derp when things turn to 2D.

Pretty good episode storywise, nice follow up from previous episode revolving around Oka but still the same issue of putting out new characters that move the plot but nobody can actually care about because literally zero build up or backstory. Like Shinobu, are we supposed to know who he was previously? And the horn dude at the end of the episode. Probably one of the missing student but who cares at this point. Can't even remember the name if you're not Shun, Fei or Hugo.
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