| I want her to have a gruesome bad end i just feel like its a good punishment, ill end up bringing reality into this so don't kill me, everyone has a choice I've seen a good amount of animes/ Mangas where the protagonist fight the system that is placed on them but nana is like yo ill kill ill kill with a smile ill happily kill I won't be bothered actually this is a game to me I love killing, this girl has not ever once shown that she is struggling with internal conflict look at Kaneki from Tokyo ghoul my man was getting broken mentally the more fuxked up things he did I'd be able to feel something for Nana if the author made her look like she was struggling to do these acts placed on her by higher ups heck even itachi was struggling with killing his family do i can't really sit here and say she's redeemable the bitch is crazy she needs a few gun shots in the head |
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| can you bring up the scene, i mostly remember her constantly looking at michiru's potential kill count to keep convincing herself that she needs to kill michiru And she is certainly a pyschopath : definitely not in a clinical sense, psychopathy is a specific inborn condition and nana is too emotional for that. the worst she could be is a sociopath and that's a result of childhood trauma. she still grows to care for others so i wouldn't even call her a sociopathAntisocial behavior, the way nana acts is the exact opposite of antisocialimpaired empathy and remorse nana rationalizes her murders as killing the few to save the many, and she becomes increasingly conscious of her actionsbold, disinhibited, and egotistical traits. it sounds like you're just listing off traits here instead of connecting her behavior to these traits because im drawing a blank for thisFor good measure, she's also sadistic i dont remember her ever trying to cause more pain than she had to, much less enjoy the pain she has caused. also sadism isn't an indicator of psychopathy |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
| killing in what context? nana thinks she's saving lives through her actions. she thinks she'll prevent kids like her from going through what she went through. her feelings for that collective trump whatever feelings she had for the individual lives she took, at least in the beginning. anti-social behavior is done in disregard for others, not for their benefit. Still lacking empath or remorse even the anime shows her connecting with michiru. what would even count as empathy or remorse to you? Nana : "I could kill him any time". Many of kills are certainly bold. Never said it was. It's an extra you mentioned it as if it helped your case that nana is a psychopathAnd what about the beach scene ? Nana : "Hurts doesn't it ?" it took me a bit to hunt down that quote but nana says that with a stone cold expression and no indication that she's secretly enjoying this. she briefly reverts to her fake persona but i doubt that's evidence enough that she enjoyed interrogating someone.Oh, and don't forget pathological lying and manipulative behavior yes this is done in service for the collective that nana thinks she's saving. you think normal people can't do despicable things for altruistic purposes? |
Aure0linDec 30, 2020 6:47 PM
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
Sku_Te said: she's prioritizing the few for the many in her head, also she's been conditioned to see those few as inhuman or less humanShe's certainly disregards the lives of her peers - snuffing out young lives with abandon, and without thinking I think I also mentioned it's a shame part of it failed. Turn herself in, is the least she could do. It's quite ironic that she said she'll kill Michiru later on - and she does. |
Aure0linDec 31, 2020 2:44 PM
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
| Yes, basically she's just being brainwasher so it's not totally her fault. She's already doctrined since child so it's not weird she didn't know the truth. Instead of blaming Nana i more interested which behind everything of this, i just hope they will make season 2. This type of story is like the game that i play long time ago. |
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| This is a spoiler for the last episode Ik this thread was created before the last episode but I just wanted to keep you updated. Piromysl said: Nana is obviously being manipulated, is geniuenly convinced that Talented are evil, just following orders, clearly does not kills for fun and shows signs of doubt as series progresses, but still and most importantly, does not have a choice. It means she is redeemable. But it still depends on wether her classmates would have to say. The classmates would just forgive her that's all. |
ScordoloDec 31, 2020 10:39 PM
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Sku_Te said: She's one of the main villains as she initiates most of the murders I think you're completely unaware of what hitman's job is supposed to be. |
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| I wouldnt really says its a matter of her being redeemed. I think its more of just a thing of her changing sides. Cause she did still willingly kill those kids. I personally dont care about the whole redeem stuff cause Nana is too cool to hate lol. |
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| Even if she had actually killed normal people, she would still be redeemable as long as she accepted Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior. But she just killed a few monsters with a corrupted DNA, which makes matters complicated. I don't think it's honest to say that they are only monsters, and that there's nothing human about them, but to which extent they are really human is the problem here, not only in terms of their physical abilities, but also in terms of mind. Her relationship with Michiru made it clear that the people with superpowers do not necessarily have monstrous minds, but that is what we know looking at the story from outside, so it's understandable that from Nana's point of view there was more reason to doubt if they really weren't just monsters, and even she herself discovered that Michiru did not deserve to be killed as a monster after having enough proof of Michiru's good heart. The accusation that Nana is a psychopath clearly isn't fair, since she clearly showed compassion towards others, and in many times kept trying to find excuses not to kill them (especially Michiru) clearly because of her emotional attachment, despite turning against the meaning of her job by doing so. Just think about her introspection after killing the necromancer; She wondered if perhaps she would have spared the necromancer if she found out that she was actually innocent, and a psychopath wouldn't have done that. Moreover, her friendship with Michiru clearly wasn't fake in the last episodes, and she wouldn't have cared so much for the possibility of being responsible for her parents' death if she were a psychopath, so, really, the accusation is just silly. I disagree with what someone said in the first page about how it's not punishable to be a murderer or a psychopath as long as it is for your government; That is a stupid marxist logic, and people really have to take responsibility for their own actions. On the other hand, however, it's also true that soldiers in wars kill soldiers from the enemy nation knowing perfectly well that they are humans just like them, which is clearly worse than Nana's case, in which she killed those kids believing that they were "the enemies of mankind". Lastly, I have to make the observation that she is very stupid for taking seriously the number of people who will be the victims of the kids that she is supposed to kill. Is Nana assuming that the men who are giving her orders can predict the future or something? That reminds me of the pathetic way how many people are accepting all the social control, including the use of masks, temperature measurement, and vaccines imposed through the excuse that it's to save lives. At least Nana is still a kid, so her case is more forgiveable, but it's still strange that a girl who is written in a way to seem to be very smart is stupid enough to do something based on numbers estimated by some politically powerful people. Edit: Actually, it doesn't seem quite right to say that they have corrupted DNA. The characters from Boku no Hero Academia are genetically modified humans, but the superpowers in Munou na Nana are more like miracles, though this is just my conjecture. |
ColtBuntlineJan 4, 2021 7:41 PM
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
Strykeryno said: Mummykun said: Lastly, I have to make the observation that she is very stupid for taking seriously the number of people who will be the victims of the kids that she is supposed to kill. Is Nana assuming that the men who are giving her orders can predict the future or something? Well, she needs something that will keep reminding her why she is doing it. These numbers are one of many proofs that Nana isn't a psycho and she's doing it for a reason. I would say the numbers were made up on simple power basis, like healer will have much less kills then pyromancer etc. or could become a strong leader like Nanao. Yes, I agree that the numbers are another clear proof that she is not a psychopath. I was just questioning her intelligence. On a second thought, though, I must admit that I liked the scene in which she turned on her cell phone to see Michiru's numbers, then she turned it off, and then she turned it on again expressing her mind's distress, which meant that she was noticing how that was bullshit to give her a reason to kill them. The difference of power was certainly considered to make the numbers seem more credible, but the large numbers were clearly exaggerated as a means to convince Nana to accept the necessity of her job, quite like Tachibana Jin conjectured. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
| @Sku_Te Lecture, eh ? Pull the other one - it's got bells on. Even better, take a look in the mirror. anyways... Oh, and as for the reply button : I have either Quick reply or Quote, and nothing else - aside from Report, of course. Now, that's amusing. Now, I have full control over my account once more, I have just have to say that Nana looking at her kill numbers is a pretty good sign that she is a nut-job - after all, she could stop at any time, and yet continues. Nana is looking at a potential kill-count in her cellphone? And? She was provided it by her mentor, who seems to be a top-dog, who personally brainwashed her into believing that the info she is provided in her cellphone is irrefutable truth. She's a government agent/assassin/soldier doing a good service for humanity - that's what she believed until the end of series at least. There was NO reason for her to STOP; what kind of government spy doubts intel provided by own government!!! What kind of moron would expect a soldier who believe they're fighting "on a good side" to NOT kill the enemy??? Are you naïve enough to believe that soldiers are all nut-jobs who can stop the killing at any time, but decide not to?! She is one evil person, and future actions can't erase what's she's done (and no doubt she'll continue later on as well). P.S You don't have to be a psycho-sadist to extort valuable intel from an ENEMY, using brute methods. You don't necessarily need to enjoy it as well. Or, for example, do you think butchers are all sadists who enjoy killing animals? Do you think Marines think about empathy when killing Taliban? Are you living in this world? future actions can't erase what's she's done If only you made this much sense at least 30% of all times mate... All in all she's manipulative, a good understanding of psychology, consummate liar and sadistic. All in all, someone you'll want to cross the road to avoid. Anyways, adios. It wasn't a pleasure. |
Sigmar-UnberogenJan 6, 2021 3:41 PM
Sigmar-Unberogen said: @Sku_Te Lecture, eh ? Pull the other one - it's got bells on. Even better, take a look in the mirror. anyways... Oh, and as for the reply button : I have either Quick reply or Quote, and nothing else - aside from Report, of course. Now, that's amusing. Now, I have full control over my account once more, I have just have to say that Nana looking at her kill numbers is a pretty good sign that she is a nut-job - after all, she could stop at any time, and yet continues. I think you meant to say: If you convinced yourself that the Earth is not flat no matter the evidence that it is flat, so be it. That is the only way for that sentence to make sense, since all the evidence points to the fact that the Earth is flat. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
| @Mummykun I think you meant to say: If you convinced yourself that the Earth is not flat no matter the evidence that it is flat, so be it. That is the only way for that sentence to make sense, since all the evidence points to the fact that the Earth is flat. Planet Earth is spherical, not flat - That's what I'm saying here. Your "corrected" version sounds more like the opposite, so, just to make things clear to me... Do you think the Earth (Planet Earth) is round or flat? EDIT: Oh wait, NEVER MIND. Hahahahahaha. F my luck! I came across with one of those flat-earther's. Here on MAL? All the evidence I needed was to click your profile, so easy... Never thought that a rather simple and primitive example would end up backfiring. What are the odds mate? Your kind is rare after all. Umm anyways... sorry pal, but as I've told this other fellow already, I'm not planning to have ANY business with... your kind of people. I mean people who in 21st century still believe in something as ridiculous as the Earth being flat. You're not going to convince me in whatever crap you call evidence, so please don't talk to me anymore, otherwise I already imagine reporting you for trolling. |
Sigmar-UnberogenJan 7, 2021 3:10 AM
| @Strykeryno Open his profile and you will know the anwser. To break these ''flat earth theories'' I'll just give him these questions: Have you ever seen on open sea a departing ship in the distance? Why is moon and other planets are spherical, when the Earth is not? How does the sun work then? Don't tell me that sun is just single ray of light moving around our planet that doesn't make sense, that's not how light works. Btw it seems, that the mentally unstable incel (you know who I'm talking about)got banned. 2021 so far starts well lmao. Yeah, I did that and imagine the surprise on my face xD. Since English isn't my native language, I got confused and had to re-read my sentence lol. I'm still grinning here. What were the odds of me stumbling upon a flat-earther in this particular thread xD? P.S you shouldn't ask him questions that require logic. Facts don't matter to these people. "F the evidence! I feel like Earth is flat so that has to be the truth." This is a rough summery of how they think. Also, to me, this people are either shizophreniacs or just trolls, hence I would avoid talking to them. Just let them live in their Fantasyland where people like you and me are the "deceived ones" lol xD |
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