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| This episode was really good, had alot of stuff, so much blood too. Quite a mystery on what will happen next |
| how the fuck did he survived and feel physicaly good after like 2 days? There is something wrong here |
| Just when I thought K1 could overcome Onikakushi! Poor dude. And poor Rika thinking she did the trick. What a twist, opening the door was the wrong choice too. I was proved wrong when I thought Higurashi couldn't horrify me anymore. I wonder if that's really what happened, I'm putting my money on @Luluci 's theory. I legit can't wait for the next episode. |
| The only question here is when exactly K1's hallucinations started. Before Rena attacked? When he pushed her and she hit her head possibly dying ? After the first stabs? Depending on when the entire scene changes. If he started before she attacked then the entire scene can be reversed. For those that mentioned Rika's death and what may happen sfter that according to "34", remember that it does not just start immediately when she dies. Buuut the real weird thing is that the GHD didn't happen so I guess someone was already - really-dead in this kakera. |
| Honestly, wtf with this episode. WHO THE FUCK SURVIVES 30 STABS AND MOVES LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED C'MON. It's clearly paralel sequel to the original series, i don't expect it to be the same, but Im disappointed about how the story is developing. |
| I'm almost 100% certain Keiichi was hallucinating during the stab scene. Also, the wound in his face was not quite at the same place the bandage was when he woke up in the hospital. |
AncapCrazyBR said: Animaniaig said: The direction and tone in this new Higurashi have been terrible as a whole but this has been the absolute worst episode so far. Absolutely laughable instead of serious. I'm not even a particularly big fan of the original anime, it's a meh adaptation of a fantastic sound novel, but it at least gets the tone right. Ryuseishun said: This episode was just so comical in both good and bad ways and unfortunately for me it's more so the latter. While the few "jumpscare" stares were pretty nice for what they were, the whole sequence itself with the stabbing shit and all was probably one of the silliest and most offensive things I've seen this year in anime. The comical aspect of some death's is one of the best things in Higurashi and I absolutely loved this scene That’s true. Though for me, how I feel about everything else can be subjective and thus the comical part may not matter in terms of positives. Differs from person to person, tbf. Still hate how they can’t make up their minds on how to exactly market this season or if they’re really just trolling and it’s just not getting always positive reception. |
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rafaelfserafim said: This episode kind of got me upset. It wasn't the censorship, it was Rika. There's plenty lot worse scenes in animes that weren't censored, even in older Higurashi itself. Japanese really should decide a standard for censorship, it's two weights, two measures since the eighties. Now, about Rika. Her "just keep on fighting, yeah" was motivational and all, but I can't believe she was such a coward to realize things didn't go as she planned and just killed Satoko and herself, which is a possibility in my point of view. The scene was an hallucination the moment Rena hits her head and collapses. Probably earlier, considering the TV. His parents were out for a few days, there's no way someone would survive such blood loss for a long time, even if the knife is dull. But that's not my argument. He was wearing a neck collar, and his belly wound wasn't shown. The scene was probably the opposite of what happened. So the collar was either from the hits or to prevent scratching. Now, he scratches his neck out either way, but the scene shown I think he was just checking his neck and remembers what Rena was doing. That depends on if what the nurse says is part of the hallucination or not. Anyways, I still have mixed feelings on the culprit. What was not shown is unclear to me. Or maybe I didn't pay enough attention. The hallucination was pretty comic, as it was supposed to be. If they wanted to make it as awful as possible to make us question it, they did it. The problem is that it’s being marketed as some “original work”, so don’t expect anything to be particularly faithful besides the core recurring content. Yea I pretty much had somewhat similar thoughts. Also, thanks for the VN info. |
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littleproblems said: I am surprised no one is talking about when the meta world overlay appeared along with The chain lock was set after K1 let Rena in K1 did not kill Rena or himself Rena did not kill K1 or herself K1 and Rena were the only two in the household at the time of death Yeah, I thought the same, once the madness started all of that was Meta territory. |
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| Damn, they changed the scene! So instead of But that whole scene is definitely a bait — Keiichi got repeatedly 'stabbed' by Rena in the torso, so he should be dead. More than likely, Keiichi actually was still paranoid and was the one who killed Rena, seeing as the end scene in the hospital is him scratching his neck. As far as the direction for this episode, and with this season in general... The issue I have with this adaptation is they try too hard to purposefully be scary, but it actually detracts from the overall tone of the story.   For instance, these scenes are supposed to be creepy, but they just end up being funny — how the fingers slowly creep inwards and the whole stabbing scene. It's entertaining and very in-your-face, but a totally different feel from the OG. The best way I can describe it is a scary movie that relies on shock value and jump scares rather than a more subtle and creepy approach that messes with you psychologically. I prefer the more subtle approach of the OG. |
| Hmm this loop ended quite differently from the original but K1 is most likely RIP anyway. As for Rika and Satoko, I can see the former realizing this loop was ruined and just doing some neck stabby stabby. (she did reset in the original like that at some point) Stabbing in the neck is just a way too peculiar detail for me. Only thing throwing this off is that apparently the exact same knife was used during the K1 and Rena confrontation. Maybe it was really Rena and she went after Rika and Satoko after thinking K1 died from breaking his neck. (assuming the hallucination was actually in reverse) As for the looping it's probably not Hanyuu doing it, when to loop was solved in the original she only had that last reset left if I remember correctly. Unless being thrown back in the loop by another entity also restored her power to some extent. |
| the way that i really thought this episode was gonna resolve with something like "oh, it's all in keiichi's head and rena isn't really going off her rails" ... LMAO how optimistic of me wonderfully animated fight though. excited to see more of them after that |
| Totally madness, and next arc Watadamashi mentioned, "Deceiving" again... |
"A half moon, it has a dark half and a bright half, just like me…", Yuno Gasai |
_MushiRock11_ said: yeah, I was afraid to open the door but unfortunately I fell asleep, lol .... even though it was raining but I managed to sleep and forget the incident in this episode, xD.@Syureria I totally get you, I didn't sleep until sunrise for a few days and keep a close on the door of my room after binge-ing the Deen version earlier this Spring xD. |
rafaelfserafim said: Ryuseishun said: I'm pretty much a mixed bag about the perpetrator thing and Rika's intentions. But I know exactly what didn't happen after that TV scene. Oh, and that spoiler tag was pretty much a mixed bag. There's only 2 things about the VN, one of them only mentioned in Meakashi at the anime. They are: The problem is that it’s being marketed as some “original work”, so don’t expect anything to be particularly faithful besides the core recurring content. Yea I pretty much had somewhat similar thoughts. Also, thanks for the VN info. I remember the original series being more favorable for me, but I'm an anime-only, admittedly, so I can't say much more for my part in terms of knowing stuff. |
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Kojiden said: Sigh. I was hoping I wouldn't have to watch the 40 some episodes but I guess if this isn't an actual remake and makes references to the original then I should put this on hold until I watch the original. I have no idea how I'm gonna be able to make time to watch 40 some episodes. At least by then the BD for this will probably be out and I can watch it uncensored. 50 episodes, actually. But! If you ask me I think it's better to experience the original Higurashi as it is before watching something that builds off of its events. Some will say that this is fine for newcomers and that you should just keep going anyway but if it's at the expense of a story as great as Higurashi then I can't say the same. ofc the ideal route is the VNs but that's like a 90 hour commitment and imo the anime adapts what it needs to be a compelling and emotional story. oh and just to be clear, this is 100% not a remake. This first arc went completely off the rails in episode 4 and it was entirely new material. |
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| Well that was...a lot to take in o_o I was so happy when ( spoilers for the episode and the overall series ) That's going to be fun to watch once the answer arc comes out. |
| I think newcomers can enjoy this as is BUT. This has more exaggerated scenes than the old one. And this may make them drop it. Creators sometimes put a lot of trust in their audiences. I already saw old fans not realizing what happened in that scene so cant imagine what newcomers think. |
ssjokgOct 22, 2020 4:42 PM
Skizo10 said: you watched the original and you question what happened?How anyone could survive all of those stabs ??? How did Keiichi survived after all those stabbings ?????? and rena just died with hit by a'clock ! are they / we dumb or what for presuming that we will believe that shity scene !! I'm grateful that i watched the OG in the past weeks because this show not scary at all ! this episode is pure garbage + censoring WTFF Unfortunately This sequel will probably end with a lower score 6.5 something like that There is no hope for this series lol. |
rafaelfserafim said: Ryuseishun said: I wrote needle but I meant syringe, sorry about that. I really thought of a syringe in my language but wrote the wrong word, and they're about completely different scenes lmao.I remember the original series being more favorable for me, but I'm an anime-only, admittedly, so I can't say much more for my part in terms of knowing stuff. I'll admit from Higurashi I've only read Onikakushi like a month ago. I have Watanagashi ready, but I need some time to dedicate to the rest of it. I must say it's definetely worth it if you have the time. I also need to read Umineko properly, I've only got dragged to some parts I ended up really interested. I'm reading in the order though, so I want to finish Higurashi first. Umineko can be enjoyed without Higurashi, but one wouldn't exist without the other. And hey, one shared character is enough for me to consider it chronologically after, in a different scenario. Whelp, idk about the VN, but I'll definitely try to hit up some of the manga and novels for both Higurashi and Umineko at some point. |
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| well this for sure is a different time line we're seeing right now |
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| Alright, Now that 4 is out I finally watched everything and hoo boy, we're in for a treat. I need to say somethings about all the episodes so, don't mind my ramble. Ending epi one with that music is such a fanservice, thank you very much. So this is a sequel huh... Can we please stop the Furede Rika bullying, pretty please? she doesn't deserve this. But playing this as a new game + is fascinating. The fact that Keiichi is already remembering other timelines is interesting as well. Onidamashi, Watadamashi... we are tricking the storyteller this time huh, cool, cool. Since she is not waiting for miracles anymore I wonder if this after Umineko. I need to rewatch/reread everything, don't I? .... well it's good so I don't mind ok, see you all again on epi 8, stay safe |
| that was a hell of a parry! |
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Skizo10 said: How anyone could survive all of those stabs ??? How did Keiichi survived after all those stabbings ?????? and rena just died with hit by a'clock ! are they / we dumb or what for presuming that we will believe that shity scene !! I'm grateful that i watched the OG in the past weeks because this show not scary at all ! this episode is pure garbage + censoring WTFF Unfortunately This sequel will probably end with a lower score 6.5 something like that If you watched the old show the past weeks you should have realize that |
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| There is not point putting stuff from the original under spoiler, you shouldn't clearly watch this without having to read the original work. The episode itself was kinda bad and failed to sell Onikakushi's atmosphere (Yes, it's not Onikakushi, but it's clearly it a subversion of it), which it's quite fantastic even if you know the main "twist". Rena vs Keiichi was almost comical, even if we assume there is some unreliable narrator going on. |
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| Great episode. Rika-chan trying to give Keiichi some advice was new right? My suspicion is what was presented was not what actually happened. Keiichi at the hospital was wearing a neck band but he was supposedly stabbed in the gut. There's also the whole idea of him being stabbed so many times but still retaining enough energy to hit Rena with that clock, and even survive until whenever his parents or whoever showed up to give him help but if what was presented was not actually what happened then the stabbings make sense with the way Keiichi was able to fight back. It looks like Rena attacked him first, which may or may not be true. Maybe it'll get cleared up later like in the original. Question to people who have seen the original or read the source VN since my memory is fuzzy in places. |
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Lelouch0202 said: Great episode. Rika-chan trying to give Keiichi some advice was new right? Question to people who have seen the original or read the source VN since my memory is fuzzy in places. The arc is Onikakushi, the first one on the original anime. The thing is: |
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Skizo10 said: ssjokg said: you watched the original and you question what happened? There is no hope for this series lol. I didn't ask what happened but I did not like the ( scene ) confrontation between Keiichi and Rena so i ask how the hell he didn't die after all those stabs I gave you the answer on my post. |
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| The fact that Keiichi could survive being stabbed over ten times and yet Rena ends up dying after being hit with a fucking box is so funny to me |
firstawahono said: Rena was definitely a bad girl in this one. Keichi cant hallucinate about her father's circumstances. Kotopec1337 said: how the fuck did he survived and feel physicaly good after like 2 days? There is something wrong here that was just keichi's hallucination and actually keichi killed her. rika had said before that rena is good girl and keichi's mind that made rena looks evil |
Lelouch0202 said: Great episode. Rika-chan trying to give Keiichi some advice was new right? My suspicion is what was presented was not what actually happened. Keiichi at the hospital was wearing a neck band but he was supposedly stabbed in the gut. There's also the whole idea of him being stabbed so many times but still retaining enough energy to hit Rena with that clock, and even survive until whenever his parents or whoever showed up to give him help but if what was presented was not actually what happened then the stabbings make sense with the way Keiichi was able to fight back. It looks like Rena attacked him first, which may or may not be true. Maybe it'll get cleared up later like in the original. Question to people who have seen the original or read the source VN since my memory is fuzzy in places. |
ssjokg said: firstawahono said: Rena was definitely a bad girl in this one. Keichi cant hallucinate about her father's circumstances. that was just keichi's hallucination and actually keichi killed her. rika had said before that rena is good girl and keichi's mind that made rena looks evil Yeah, my theory is that the Meta-change was the point where Keiichi received the first stab and Rena is pushed against the table. no problem :) |
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