Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Kan Episode 9 Discussion

Sep 4, 2020 4:02 AM

#101

DannyTheDonkey

Offline

Nov 2013

2693

This episode is all about Yui, judge from Hachiman's Monologues it's gonna be sad for her big time.

I'm too weird to live but much too rare to die.

Sep 4, 2020 6:30 AM

#102

Neku-tan

Offline

Mar 2014

535

Best episode so far. It is good to see that Hikki, Yui and her mother get along. Yui's mother definitely needs more screen time.

Sep 4, 2020 6:54 AM

#103

Caraculiambro

Offline

Jun 2014

238

DannyTheDonkey said:
This episode is all about Yui, judge from Hachiman's Monologues it's gonna be sad for her big time.

Not to mention that it might make a lot of fans really upset at what they feel is an asspull at the end. There's soo much left out. it's crazy.

Sep 4, 2020 7:06 AM

#104

Meta_Yoshi

Offline

Feb 2014

3998

Gahamama reminds us as to why she's a pure diamond of a character. Her advice to Yui and Hachiman not only was spot on, but the way she teases Yui and Hachiman when they were making fruit tarts was really good. XD

As a Yui fan, this episode was excellent. I always enjoy the moments when Yui gets to be around Hachiman and this episode was filled with plenty of those moments.

The graduation ceremony gave us something I certainly wasn't expecting, and that was Hachiman crying. I couldn't help but laugh when he was tearing up. X3

The prom is getting super close now. I do hope the whole prom is a big success, although I know the drama is far from over. Just a shame that I get the feeling that too many people are spoiling in plain sight about the LN ending, though... =/

Sep 4, 2020 7:13 AM

#105

Ryuseishun

Offline

Mar 2016

3095

A_G_N said:

Ryuseishun said:

That's pretty much my thoughts in a nutshell, too, sans the part where I've yet to read the LN myself....though I plan to right before next week's episode, hopefully.

Goodluck, start from season 3 volumes too, you're in for some world bending shit with how different anime is...

Yea, I’m gonna hold back on high expectations, at least, cause having seen the adaptation first is gonna really throw things off for me as opposed to if I had read the LN first.

Sep 4, 2020 7:21 AM

#106

A_G_N

Offline

Jun 2020

882

Ryuseishun said:

A_G_N said:

Goodluck, start from season 3 volumes too, you're in for some world bending shit with how different anime is...

Yea, I’m gonna hold back on high expectations, at least, cause having seen the adaptation first is gonna really throw things off for me as opposed to if I had read the LN first.

No, if you've startedn finish it, that why atleast you can enjoy both, better than getting riled up like us, only a month left anyway, you can start reading from start tho for now, by time anime finishes, you should be only on the second or third volume. And if you're only gonna read season 3 volumes, thats fine too, tho some context is gonna be gone..

Sep 4, 2020 7:25 AM

#107

Ryuseishun

Offline

Mar 2016

3095

A_G_N said:

Ryuseishun said:

Yea, I’m gonna hold back on high expectations, at least, cause having seen the adaptation first is gonna really throw things off for me as opposed to if I had read the LN first.

No, if you've startedn finish it, that why atleast you can enjoy both, better than getting riled up like us, only a month left anyway, you can start reading from start tho for now, by time anime finishes, you should be only on the second or third volume. And if you're only gonna read season 3 volumes, thats fine too, tho some context is gonna be gone..

I plan to read up til vol 14, unless my priorities change during that time. I expect my experience to be much different from that regarding the adaptation....not sure if it’ll be necessarily better.

Sep 4, 2020 7:41 AM

#108

A_G_N

Offline

Jun 2020

882

Ryuseishun said:

A_G_N said:

No, if you've startedn finish it, that why atleast you can enjoy both, better than getting riled up like us, only a month left anyway, you can start reading from start tho for now, by time anime finishes, you should be only on the second or third volume. And if you're only gonna read season 3 volumes, thats fine too, tho some context is gonna be gone..

I plan to read up til vol 14, unless my priorities change during that time. I expect my experience to be much different from that regarding the adaptation....not sure if it’ll be necessarily better.

This is how it is, LN>>>Manga>>>>>>>>>Anime

I'm not even joking about this...

Sep 4, 2020 8:42 AM

#109

Azri3l

Offline

Jul 2020

106

ShiroHachi said:
The purpose of Yui's house scene in this episode is to provide an ideal situation for Hachiman. That this was what it would be like if he ended up with Yui. Yui is an ideal replica. But as you can hear his monologue.

"If only I could continue living out my days like this, granting all of her wishes one by one... That impossible fantasy played out in my head."

Hachiman felt this was not what he wanted and it was not possible.
In this episode, especially when at Yui's house, Hachiman always looks uncomfortable and pushes himself. He even said in his monologue that when he was with Yui, he just pretended that everything was normal. You can confirm Hachiman's mood when he drinks black coffee instead of Max Coffee. He drank it when he was in a bad mood

Yeah I think for hin he feels like this is not his genuine type of feeling for a relationship. Hes always acting a certain way around Yuigahama. With Yukino, you can tell they kind of confortable around eachother. I still kinda feel bad for Yui tho, shes a good character that deaerves sum love man 😔

Sep 4, 2020 8:48 AM

#110

dasprn

Offline

Feb 2014

2102

Gahamama is back again. She's the friendly neighbor kinda mom. We can clearly see where Yui gets it from.

When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because.

Sep 4, 2020 9:13 AM

#111

DannyTheDonkey

Offline

Nov 2013

2693

Caraculiambro said:

DannyTheDonkey said:
This episode is all about Yui, judge from Hachiman's Monologues it's gonna be sad for her big time.

Not to mention that it might make a lot of fans really upset at what they feel is an asspull at the end. There's soo much left out. it's crazy.

Not that I care who ended up with whom, but many people see love as an action and so do I. As anime watcher only, you can't help but thinks Yui deserved better ending after the time and effort she spends for the guy and I agree with three episodes left, so little time to sway your attention Yukinon.

I guess what the anime did is just following the trend that the best grill never win.

I'm too weird to live but much too rare to die.

Sep 4, 2020 10:13 AM

#112

TsukuyomiREKT

Offline

May 2015

5409

I don't care what Yukino stans say, I've always liked Yui more and that's never gonna change.

Sep 4, 2020 11:08 AM

#113

removed-user

Offline

Jul 2018

562454

A_G_N said:

YYGH said:

Nothing is impossible. He made the fantasy into an reality this episode. He do enjoy his time spent with Yui, I noticed him blushing and they having a good time together. It's a really nice and warmth atmosphere. This is only possible because of Yui personality, which came from her mom. There is no way Hiki can pull off a casual approach with Yukino and her mom. I can imagine Yukino, her mom, and Hikki cannot even do a simple conversation. It will be silent and awkwardness for sure, that's why Yui should be the girl for Hikki. Although we all know that's not possible, I really hope the anime will change the ending.

What, fuck that, Hachiman's constantly uncomfortable with Yui, didn you notice him constantly asking if Yui's father was home, or mother was too, just so he wouldnt be alone with Yui, anime has been suoer biased with Yui this season, you think from ep 7 bench scene that Hachiman was uncomfortable with Yukino, look how much he smiles with Yui in this season, loom how much he smiles with Yukino... anyway, if you like yui only, anime succeded in their bias against one character.... dont read the LN or manga btw, you're entire world view will be changed for the series and you wont like Yui as much anymore...

He is uncomfortable is not because of Yui. His character is more shy and awkward and so he was nervous being alone with Yui. Any girls will make him feel that way, but I think Yui make him feels more uncomfortable because he harbor feeling for her. The anime is bias for Yui is because even they think she is a better character than Yukino. Yukino doesn't even exist in this s3 LOL, good job Feel studio. Keep this up! I'm pretty sure Hachiman smile more with Yui as she is able to bring out the casual Hiki. With Yukino, their vibe have been always so stern. Actually I like all the casts in this show, but I connect and like Yui more because to me, she is more genuine than any other cast. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Yukino, I like her too... but I just like Yui more, it's that simple. I'm not a hater unlike most people. And I definitely will not force my opinions onto other because that is the wrong thing to do. Also, I read the LN/Manga already, and even before that I already fell in love with Yui in S1E1. This girl is the most appealing cast to me and even after finishing the LN/Manga, my opinions for Yui have been the same ever since. In fact, she grows on me even more and more. The second most appealing girl to me is Komachi. She's another cutie, and her interaction with Hikki is lovely. Third would be Iroha because she is darling and flirty. And lastly, Yukino is at the bottom of my list because to me, she is simply boring. I definitely don't want to be a relationship with Yukino... even Hikki said that in S1 "I don't want to be in a relationship with this girl, referring to Yukino. But that is my opinion.

Sep 4, 2020 11:17 AM

#114

A_G_N

Offline

Jun 2020

882

YYGH said:

A_G_N said:

What, fuck that, Hachiman's constantly uncomfortable with Yui, didn you notice him constantly asking if Yui's father was home, or mother was too, just so he wouldnt be alone with Yui, anime has been suoer biased with Yui this season, you think from ep 7 bench scene that Hachiman was uncomfortable with Yukino, look how much he smiles with Yui in this season, loom how much he smiles with Yukino... anyway, if you like yui only, anime succeded in their bias against one character.... dont read the LN or manga btw, you're entire world view will be changed for the series and you wont like Yui as much anymore...

He is uncomfortable is not because of Yui. His character is more shy and awkward and so he was nervous being alone with Yui. Any girls will make him feel that way, but I think Yui make him feels more uncomfortable because he harbor feeling for her. The anime is bias for Yui is because even they think she is a better character than Yukino. Yukino doesn't even exist in this s3 LOL, good job Feel studio. Keep this up! I'm pretty sure Hachiman smile more with Yui as she is able to bring out the casual Hiki. With Yukino, their vibe have been always so stern. Actually I like all the casts in this show, but I connect and like Yui more because to me, she is more genuine than any other cast. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Yukino, I like her too... but I just like Yui more, it's that simple. I'm not a hater unlike most people. And I definitely will not force my opinions onto other because that is the wrong thing to do. Also, I read the LN/Manga already, and even before that I already fell in love with Yui in S1E1. This girl is the most appealing cast to me and even after finishing the LN/Manga, my opinions for Yui have been the same ever since. In fact, she grows on me even more and more. The second most appealing girl to me is Komachi. She's another cutie, and her interaction with Hikki is lovely. Third would be Iroha because she is darling and flirty. And lastly, Yukino is at the bottom of my list because to me, she is simply boring. I definitely don't want to be a relationship with Yukino... even Hikki said that in S1 "I don't want to be in a relationship with this girl, referring to Yukino. But that is my opinion.

I can accept you liking Yui, but every other point is just not what happened in LN at all, Yui genuine??? I suggest you re-read the entire series again man, you're straight up breaking plot here dude...

You know Hachiman has always been thinking about Yukino since day 1 and only thinks about her all the time right, I think you missed the subtext like - every subtext was missed I think..

A_G_NSep 4, 2020 11:20 AM

Sep 4, 2020 12:11 PM

#115

removed-user

Offline

Jul 2018

562454

A_G_N said:

YYGH said:

He is uncomfortable is not because of Yui. His character is more shy and awkward and so he was nervous being alone with Yui. Any girls will make him feel that way, but I think Yui make him feels more uncomfortable because he harbor feeling for her. The anime is bias for Yui is because even they think she is a better character than Yukino. Yukino doesn't even exist in this s3 LOL, good job Feel studio. Keep this up! I'm pretty sure Hachiman smile more with Yui as she is able to bring out the casual Hiki. With Yukino, their vibe have been always so stern. Actually I like all the casts in this show, but I connect and like Yui more because to me, she is more genuine than any other cast. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Yukino, I like her too... but I just like Yui more, it's that simple. I'm not a hater unlike most people. And I definitely will not force my opinions onto other because that is the wrong thing to do. Also, I read the LN/Manga already, and even before that I already fell in love with Yui in S1E1. This girl is the most appealing cast to me and even after finishing the LN/Manga, my opinions for Yui have been the same ever since. In fact, she grows on me even more and more. The second most appealing girl to me is Komachi. She's another cutie, and her interaction with Hikki is lovely. Third would be Iroha because she is darling and flirty. And lastly, Yukino is at the bottom of my list because to me, she is simply boring. I definitely don't want to be a relationship with Yukino... even Hikki said that in S1 "I don't want to be in a relationship with this girl, referring to Yukino. But that is my opinion.

I can accept you liking Yui, but every other point is just not what happened in LN at all, Yui genuine??? I suggest you re-read the entire series again man, you're straight up breaking plot here dude...

You know Hachiman has always been thinking about Yukino since day 1 and only thinks about her all the time right, I think you missed the subtext like - every subtext was missed I think..

Yui is genuine because of her self-conflict, experiences, and emotions. Her struggle is more genuine than anything, it's because she is human. She is selfish, shes knows that and yet she try her very best to fight against it shows that. Hikki thinks about Yukino, but he also thinks about Yui as well. That's why in S2, their relationship is in a love triangle. If he doesn't harbor feeling for Yui, he can easily get with Yukino that time. Toward the end of the S2, Yui even brought this topic about their relationship upfront in their date. Hikki can tell Yui, Yui I'm aware of your feelings but I love Yukino. Simple as that and that won't even be a S3. When Yui did that, she is even more genuine because she is giving an opportunity for the two of them to confess to each other, and even so... Yukino didn't tell Hikki her feeeling for him. Yui knows she won't be picked and yet she still doing her best to make it work. To me, that's fking genuine. I'm sure I understand the subtext more than you do. Anyway if my opinions say Yui is genuine, you know that arguing with me would be pointless because you won't able to change my opinion at all. And if you think Yui is not genuine, that is fine with me because that is your opinion.

Sep 4, 2020 12:16 PM

#116

Led_Wayline

Offline

Feb 2008

2100

Gahama-mama is the best mama.

Quality slice-of-life without overcomplicated interpersonal relations. At least something went undeniably well for Yui.

Iroha still shines the brightest, though.

Sep 4, 2020 12:43 PM

#117

A_G_N

Offline

Jun 2020

882

YYGH said:

A_G_N said:

YYGH said:

A_G_N said:

YYGH said:

ToraiS said:
Really, wholesome episode. I smiled all throughout.

Hikigaya quickly forgot that his genuine wish is also in the realm of impossibility, making him hypocritical to say that spending time with Yui like in this episode is an impossible fantasy when it could actually happen. I mean, it happened this episode.

Yui is precious for that; whatever she says, she will make it happen. It's not the best but it will happen.

Though at the back of my mind I can't help but think that Hikigaya can't pull this stuff off in the Yukinoshita household lol. Imagine existing in the same room as Yukimom and Haruno and expecting to be loose and casual.

Nothing is impossible. He made the fantasy into an reality this episode. He do enjoy his time spent with Yui, I noticed him blushing and they having a good time together. It's a really nice and warmth atmosphere. This is only possible because of Yui personality, which came from her mom. There is no way Hiki can pull off a casual approach with Yukino and her mom. I can imagine Yukino, her mom, and Hikki cannot even do a simple conversation. It will be silent and awkwardness for sure, that's why Yui should be the girl for Hikki. Although we all know that's not possible, I really hope the anime will change the ending.

What, fuck that, Hachiman's constantly uncomfortable with Yui, didn you notice him constantly asking if Yui's father was home, or mother was too, just so he wouldnt be alone with Yui, anime has been suoer biased with Yui this season, you think from ep 7 bench scene that Hachiman was uncomfortable with Yukino, look how much he smiles with Yui in this season, loom how much he smiles with Yukino... anyway, if you like yui only, anime succeded in their bias against one character.... dont read the LN or manga btw, you're entire world view will be changed for the series and you wont like Yui as much anymore...

He is uncomfortable is not because of Yui. His character is more shy and awkward and so he was nervous being alone with Yui. Any girls will make him feel that way, but I think Yui make him feels more uncomfortable because he harbor feeling for her. The anime is bias for Yui is because even they think she is a better character than Yukino. Yukino doesn't even exist in this s3 LOL, good job Feel studio. Keep this up! I'm pretty sure Hachiman smile more with Yui as she is able to bring out the casual Hiki. With Yukino, their vibe have been always so stern. Actually I like all the casts in this show, but I connect and like Yui more because to me, she is more genuine than any other cast. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Yukino, I like her too... but I just like Yui more, it's that simple. I'm not a hater unlike most people. And I definitely will not force my opinions onto other because that is the wrong thing to do. Also, I read the LN/Manga already, and even before that I already fell in love with Yui in S1E1. This girl is the most appealing cast to me and even after finishing the LN/Manga, my opinions for Yui have been the same ever since. In fact, she grows on me even more and more. The second most appealing girl to me is Komachi. She's another cutie, and her interaction with Hikki is lovely. Third would be Iroha because she is darling and flirty. And lastly, Yukino is at the bottom of my list because to me, she is simply boring. I definitely don't want to be a relationship with Yukino... even Hikki said that in S1 "I don't want to be in a relationship with this girl, referring to Yukino. But that is my opinion.

I can accept you liking Yui, but every other point is just not what happened in LN at all, Yui genuine??? I suggest you re-read the entire series again man, you're straight up breaking plot here dude...

You know Hachiman has always been thinking about Yukino since day 1 and only thinks about her all the time right, I think you missed the subtext like - every subtext was missed I think..

Yui is genuine because of her self-conflict, experiences, and emotions. Her struggle is more genuine than anything, it's because she is human. She is selfish, shes knows that and yet she try her very best to fight against it shows that. Hikki thinks about Yukino, but he also thinks about Yui as well. That's why in S2, their relationship is in a love triangle. If he doesn't harbor feeling for Yui, he can easily get with Yukino that time. Toward the end of the S2, Yui even brought this topic about their relationship upfront in their date. Hikki can tell Yui, Yui I'm aware of your feelings but I love Yukino. Simple as that and that won't even be a S3. When Yui did that, she is even more genuine because she is giving an opportunity for the two of them to confess to each other, and even so... Yukino didn't tell Hikki her feeeling for him. Yui knows she won't be picked and yet she still doing her best to make it work. To me, that's fking genuine. I'm sure I understand the subtext more than you do. Anyway if my opinions say Yui is genuine, you know that arguing with me would be pointless because you won't able to change my opinion at all. And if you think Yui is not genuine, that is fine with me because that is your opinion.

Oh, its just not my opinion, its the opinion of the oregairu readers in reddit and oregairu discord who have been discussing this for years now, but yh, each their own opinions I guess...

Sep 4, 2020 1:05 PM

#118

Chrome_Falcon

Offline

Jun 2017

748

For someone that has so much insight, Hachiman can't realise whom he actually loves. It is about time Yui told him to decide upon his "wish". He makes it harder for everyone by being indecisive.
Also, I find the drama in this season repetitive and boring.
Hachiman's monologues have been almost absent too.

Sep 4, 2020 1:13 PM

#119

removed-user

Offline

Jul 2018

562454

A_G_N said:

YYGH said:

A_G_N said:

YYGH said:

A_G_N said:

YYGH said:

ToraiS said:
Really, wholesome episode. I smiled all throughout.

Hikigaya quickly forgot that his genuine wish is also in the realm of impossibility, making him hypocritical to say that spending time with Yui like in this episode is an impossible fantasy when it could actually happen. I mean, it happened this episode.

Yui is precious for that; whatever she says, she will make it happen. It's not the best but it will happen.

Though at the back of my mind I can't help but think that Hikigaya can't pull this stuff off in the Yukinoshita household lol. Imagine existing in the same room as Yukimom and Haruno and expecting to be loose and casual.

Nothing is impossible. He made the fantasy into an reality this episode. He do enjoy his time spent with Yui, I noticed him blushing and they having a good time together. It's a really nice and warmth atmosphere. This is only possible because of Yui personality, which came from her mom. There is no way Hiki can pull off a casual approach with Yukino and her mom. I can imagine Yukino, her mom, and Hikki cannot even do a simple conversation. It will be silent and awkwardness for sure, that's why Yui should be the girl for Hikki. Although we all know that's not possible, I really hope the anime will change the ending.

What, fuck that, Hachiman's constantly uncomfortable with Yui, didn you notice him constantly asking if Yui's father was home, or mother was too, just so he wouldnt be alone with Yui, anime has been suoer biased with Yui this season, you think from ep 7 bench scene that Hachiman was uncomfortable with Yukino, look how much he smiles with Yui in this season, loom how much he smiles with Yukino... anyway, if you like yui only, anime succeded in their bias against one character.... dont read the LN or manga btw, you're entire world view will be changed for the series and you wont like Yui as much anymore...

He is uncomfortable is not because of Yui. His character is more shy and awkward and so he was nervous being alone with Yui. Any girls will make him feel that way, but I think Yui make him feels more uncomfortable because he harbor feeling for her. The anime is bias for Yui is because even they think she is a better character than Yukino. Yukino doesn't even exist in this s3 LOL, good job Feel studio. Keep this up! I'm pretty sure Hachiman smile more with Yui as she is able to bring out the casual Hiki. With Yukino, their vibe have been always so stern. Actually I like all the casts in this show, but I connect and like Yui more because to me, she is more genuine than any other cast. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Yukino, I like her too... but I just like Yui more, it's that simple. I'm not a hater unlike most people. And I definitely will not force my opinions onto other because that is the wrong thing to do. Also, I read the LN/Manga already, and even before that I already fell in love with Yui in S1E1. This girl is the most appealing cast to me and even after finishing the LN/Manga, my opinions for Yui have been the same ever since. In fact, she grows on me even more and more. The second most appealing girl to me is Komachi. She's another cutie, and her interaction with Hikki is lovely. Third would be Iroha because she is darling and flirty. And lastly, Yukino is at the bottom of my list because to me, she is simply boring. I definitely don't want to be a relationship with Yukino... even Hikki said that in S1 "I don't want to be in a relationship with this girl, referring to Yukino. But that is my opinion.

I can accept you liking Yui, but every other point is just not what happened in LN at all, Yui genuine??? I suggest you re-read the entire series again man, you're straight up breaking plot here dude...

You know Hachiman has always been thinking about Yukino since day 1 and only thinks about her all the time right, I think you missed the subtext like - every subtext was missed I think..

Yui is genuine because of her self-conflict, experiences, and emotions. Her struggle is more genuine than anything, it's because she is human. She is selfish, shes knows that and yet she try her very best to fight against it shows that. Hikki thinks about Yukino, but he also thinks about Yui as well. That's why in S2, their relationship is in a love triangle. If he doesn't harbor feeling for Yui, he can easily get with Yukino that time. Toward the end of the S2, Yui even brought this topic about their relationship upfront in their date. Hikki can tell Yui, Yui I'm aware of your feelings but I love Yukino. Simple as that and that won't even be a S3. When Yui did that, she is even more genuine because she is giving an opportunity for the two of them to confess to each other, and even so... Yukino didn't tell Hikki her feeeling for him. Yui knows she won't be picked and yet she still doing her best to make it work. To me, that's fking genuine. I'm sure I understand the subtext more than you do. Anyway if my opinions say Yui is genuine, you know that arguing with me would be pointless because you won't able to change my opinion at all. And if you think Yui is not genuine, that is fine with me because that is your opinion.

Oh, its just not my opinion, its the opinion of the oregairu readers in reddit and oregairu discord who have been discussing this for years now, but yh, each their own opinions I guess...

Just because you guys are TeamYukino doesn't mean all of us gonna be following that. You have to accept other when they don't board that ship, we chose to sail a different direction instead.

Sep 4, 2020 1:19 PM

#120

removed-user

Offline

Jul 2018

562454

Chrome_Falcon said:
For someone that has so much insight, Hachiman can't realise whom he actually loves. It is about time Yui told him to decide upon his "wish". He makes it harder for everyone by being indecisive.
Also, I find the drama in this season repetitive and boring.
Hachiman's monologues have been almost absent too.

To be honest, He likes both of them. But he likes Yukino more. At the same time, he doesn't want to hurt Yui if he told her he likes Yukino. Hence, their just delaying the outcome. I agreed... he's been too indecisive in S2 and S3. Like I said before, if he make a decision in the last episode of S2, their won't be a S3. Although I appreciate his indecisiveness otherwise I won't able to see more Yui moments in S3. S3 really sucks compared to S1 and S2. The only thing that is saving S3 to me is Yui, otherwise I would drop this show long time ago.

Sep 4, 2020 1:29 PM

#121