| Stand Alone Complex is one of the best pieces of media to come out of Japan. I highly recommend watching all of it (plus idk if this is a continuation or a reboot of it but I highly doubt it will even come close tbh). Also, of course, the original and Innocence are great as well. Can't speak about Arise as I haven't seen much of it yet. |
| I don't know if they are required to watch the new one but I highly recommend the original SAC and the two movies Arise feels like SAC but with worse writing, worse cases, worse character designs and worse tachikoma. |
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Gabriel_Souza_ said: Okay, just checked, definitely don't watch 2045 before the original SAC, it's a sequel.Stand Alone Complex is one of the best pieces of media to come out of Japan. I will watch it, but not now (I have a lot of stuffs to watch), and I wanna se this new SAC (although this apalling 3D). |
| I'm pretty sure you don't have to watch ALL of the GitS anime franchise to understand this new season. It's clearly part of the Stand Alone Complex "timeline", so all you need to watch is: -GitS SAC Season 1 -GitS SAC 2nd GIG (Season 2) -GitS SAC: Solid State Society movie And that's it. You don't need to watch any of the Arise entries at all. Not only are they kinda mediocre, they're also an entirely different continuity and have nothing to do with SAC or the original movies. |
| Well, the above posts already explain why you should, but my question is why wouldn't you? It's fairly clear that the new GITS won't hold a candle to the previous series whether in terms of plot or design or what have you, so really, not factoring in time (2 seasons of SAC plus a movie), there's... literally no reason not to watch the previous instalments. Ditto @ above opinions on Arise. I haven't finished it, but it's not as interesting as SAC and the art isn't as good either. The VAs are different, too, at least the Japanese ones (I never watch GITS in English, as I'm a fan of Major's and Batou's Japanese seiyuu). I will finish it eventually, but I'd honestly rather just rewatch SAC (both seasons). |
Devil-FlamingoApr 9, 2020 1:42 AM
Devil-Flamingo said: Well, the above posts already explain why you should, but my question is why wouldn't you? It's fairly clear that the new GITS won't hold a candle to the previous series whether in terms of plot or design or what have you, so really, not factoring in time (2 seasons of SAC plus a movie), there's... literally no reason not to watch the previous instalments. Ditto @ above opinions on Arise. I haven't finished it, but it's not as interesting as SAC and the art isn't as good either. The VAs are different, too, at least the Japanese ones (I never watch GITS in English, as I'm a fan of Major's and Batou's Japanese seiyuu). I will finish it eventually, but I'd honestly rather just rewatch SAC (both seasons). OP just wants to be up do date on anime talk, trends and memes, watching old anime doesn't help with that. |
SteelingMaxApr 12, 2020 5:41 PM
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SteelingMax said: OP just wants to be up do date on anime talk, watching old anime doesn't help with that. I don't know what that means, sorry. Up to date on anime talk? Huh? |
| Honestly you should drop anything else you are watching or plan to watch and watch the first two seasons of SAC as well as solid state society. I can promise nothing your going to watch holds a candle to it. Like was said above, one of the best pieces of media to ever come out of japan. Unless your a simpleton, then you should probably avoid GITS overall. |
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Gabriel_Souza_ said: Stand Alone Complex is one of the best pieces of media to come out of Japan. I will watch it, but not now (I have a lot of stuffs to watch), and I wanna se this new SAC (although this apalling 3D). But why? If you think the 3D is appalling, why prioritize it over the previous seasons, which you really should watch before this comes out? SteelingMax said: OP just wants to be up do date on anime talk, trends and memes, watching old anime doesn't help with that. Would someone that only has 6 posts really just want to be up to date on these kinds of discussions, though? Especially a show like this, that definitely wouldn't get much buzz, I mean even Arise didn't get talked about much and it was a lot less controversial than the CG here. |
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OnionKnightRises said: SteelingMax said: OP just wants to be up do date on anime talk, trends and memes, watching old anime doesn't help with that. Would someone that only has 6 posts really just want to be up to date on these kinds of discussions, though? Especially a show like this, that definitely wouldn't get much buzz, I mean even Arise didn't get talked about much and it was a lot less controversial than the CG here. Well, i don't know why someone wouldn't watch the loved by many classic GiTS-SAC series for years, then be super interested in a pretty bland trailer for a sequel series, that he wants to skip to it, because it's just not worthy of his time apparently?! My fist thought is, he doesn't want to watch old anime. |
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SteelingMax said: OnionKnightRises said: Would someone that only has 6 posts really just want to be up to date on these kinds of discussions, though? Especially a show like this, that definitely wouldn't get much buzz, I mean even Arise didn't get talked about much and it was a lot less controversial than the CG here. Well, i don't know why someone wouldn't watch the loved by many classic GiTS-SAC series for years, then be super interested in a pretty bland trailer for a sequel series, that he wants to skip to it, because it's just not worthy of his time apparently?! My fist thought is, he doesn't want to watch old anime. He probably just put it on his PTW list and it became one of those shows that take you years to finally get to. He did say he'll watch them in his second post here, so it seems like he's fine with watching older shows. Edocchi said: Yes you need to. And then don't bother with this one Why are you judging the new show before it's even out? Just because it looks shoddy doesn't mean the story will be. Let it come out before actually judging the actual show as a whole. If graphics were what defined this series then Arise would be the best in it, which definitely isn't the case. We can bring out the torches and pitchforks if it comes out looking like a PS2 game while also having a shitty plot. |
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OnionKnightRises said: I have the right to judge a show before it's out. The best GitS was just alright for me. I don't care about story. so stfuEdocchi said: Yes you need to. And then don't bother with this one Why are you judging the new show before it's even out? Just because it looks shoddy doesn't mean the story will be. Let it come out before actually judging the actual show as a whole. If graphics were what defined this series then Arise would be the best in it, which definitely isn't the case. We can bring out the torches and pitchforks if it comes out looking like a PS2 game while also having a shitty plot. |
Edocchi said: OnionKnightRises said: I have the right to judge a show before it's out. The best GitS was just alright for me. I don't care about story. so stfuWhy are you judging the new show before it's even out? Just because it looks shoddy doesn't mean the story will be. Let it come out before actually judging the actual show as a whole. If graphics were what defined this series then Arise would be the best in it, which definitely isn't the case. We can bring out the torches and pitchforks if it comes out looking like a PS2 game while also having a shitty plot. Alright then stay mad I guess |
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OnionKnightRises said: SteelingMax said: Well, i don't know why someone wouldn't watch the loved by many classic GiTS-SAC series for years, then be super interested in a pretty bland trailer for a sequel series, that he wants to skip to it, because it's just not worthy of his time apparently?! My fist thought is, he doesn't want to watch old anime. He probably just put it on his PTW list and it became one of those shows that take you years to finally get to. He did say he'll watch them in his second post here, so it seems like he's fine with watching older shows. Didn't see his second post, but even so, he's saying that he might watch it later and that he has no time right now, what he really wants is to watch SAC2045 for some undisclosed reason that i can't seem to grasp, but who am i to judge, if he wants he can just watch SAC2045 and never watch the original animated series, that's his prerogative. We already laid the facts on him that this new anime is a sequel and that it's mandatory to watch the older show first, but he still doesn't want to, because apparently he has "a lot of stuffs to watch", SAC2045 included in that list, close to the top i presume. Edocchi said: I have the right to judge a show before it's out. The best GitS was just alright for me. I don't care about story. so stfu I agree that it looks really bad, and i am also someone that doesn't hold GiTS as this perfection that some people say it is, i really liked S1 but i had to drop SAC S2 because of how up it's own ass it had become, it was more preoccupied with throwing more jargon and philosophy in your face than actual events happening and moving the story along. Damn, what's the deal with your scores? Do you even like anime? Honest question. |
SteelingMaxApr 14, 2020 8:38 PM
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SteelingMax said: OnionKnightRises said: He probably just put it on his PTW list and it became one of those shows that take you years to finally get to. He did say he'll watch them in his second post here, so it seems like he's fine with watching older shows. Didn't see his second post, but even so, he's saying that he might watch it later and that he has no time right now, what he really wants is to watch SAC2045 for some undisclosed reason that i can't seem to grasp, but who am i to judge, if he wants he can just watch SAC2045 and never watch the original animated series, that's his prerogative. We already laid the facts on him that this new anime is a sequel and that it's mandatory to watch the older show first, but he still doesn't want to, because apparently he has "a lot of stuffs to watch", SAC2045 included in that list, close to the top i presume. Yeah it is his prerogative, I'm mostly just wondering out of curiosity. I'm trying to wrap my head around OP wanting to watch the sequel before the original two SAC series when the only thing 2045 has is updated looks, which the OP already said he wasn't a fan of. It'd make sense if OP was aware that the seasons aren't TOO connected with each other, like how you don't actually have to watch the first SAC to understand the second, or if OP really doesn't have the time and thinks 2045 will be weekly and be easier to follow. |
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| Watch anything gits related, this 2045 stuff will be bad |
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| Yes you do. At least the Stand Alone Complex timeline: SAC > SAC 2nd GIG > SAC SSS > SAC 2045 |
| ITT: anime elitism Also Arise is fine. I watched it twice. Why tf would you complain about more GITS being made? The hell is wrong with you guys. @ OP: you don't need to, but it obviously helps, as this is a sequel. |
vanetz said: ITT: anime elitism Also Arise is fine. I watched it twice. Why tf would you complain about more GITS being made? The hell is wrong with you guys. @ OP: you don't need to, but it obviously helps, as this is a sequel. Well that is good info, I have no idea what you are talking about. |
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vanetz said: ITT: anime elitism Also Arise is fine. I watched it twice. Why tf would you complain about more GITS being made? The hell is wrong with you guys. @ OP: you don't need to, but it obviously helps, as this is a sequel. I liked parts of ARISE. 1, 3 and 4 were good, 5 was decent and 2 was really bad |
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OP said: vanetz said: ITT: anime elitism Also Arise is fine. I watched it twice. Why tf would you complain about more GITS being made? The hell is wrong with you guys. @ OP: you don't need to, but it obviously helps, as this is a sequel. Well that is good info, I have no idea what you are talking about. Well I actually meant "Original Poster" but you got dragged along into this because you won the username lottery, congratulations. Sorry. Also not sorry because it's partly your fault. |
| I watched the movies but not SAC, so far doesn't seem necessary. The first movie gives you a basic introduction for all the characters, and that's really all you need to know beforehand. |
dc22 said: I watched the movies but not SAC, so far doesn't seem necessary. The first movie gives you a basic introduction for all the characters, and that's really all you need to know beforehand. There are very few callbacks to the SAC series so that's fine. The movie is a separate universe though so just keep that in mind. |
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| Ive just finished the 12 episodes ending with a cliffhanger, yeah... As a long time fan of the franchise, I definitely say YES to your question. I dont think anyone will come to especially like the 2045 series, the rest will either dislike it or dismiss it with a "meh". I personally think it isnt that bad, but there is just no comparison to the movie and the 2 series from the early and mid 2000s. It already starts with the horrible char design for the female MC, who looks like a 14 year old barbie doll version of the original design. The chars themsleves feel a bit off compared to the 200x version and there is basically no emotional build up or high lights at all. Just compare it to the second episode of the first season with the awesome soundtrack of Yoko Kanno and the soulcrushing climax from Steve Conte, when they had the final fight with the tank cyborg. Literally tears back in the days when I watched it. This time I dont think my face even moved a muscle when I watched 2045. So I just can only recommend to watch the WAY BETTER earlier stuff in order first. If you dont like the old stuff, you wont like 2045 anyway. |
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