Goblin Slayer (light novel)
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Rob7Jul 29, 2020 10:41 AM
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| I'm sure most of the people who rated it haven't even seen it yet |
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| Once more people who really watched the movie start to rate it, i'm sure that the score will move to something above 7, but still strongly influenced by the small rape scenes. Usually i respect the rating system in MAL and use as my basis to search for a new PTW show. But i am aware about some distortions, like this: - Rape scenes: automatic downgrade in at least 1.0; - No being dubbed: dowgrade between 0.5 and 1. (even worse than this are the reviews made by people who just watched 3 episodes in fast foward) Well, it is 100% in collective subjective appreciation, that always will be on something a bit nosense or irrational. It is OK hate rape scenes in any context, but at least be coherent and "hate" other kinds of graphic violence too. |
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| It's just westerners (specifically americans) who think their moral standards actually matter. |
| From the 400's who ranked it, probably 50 actually watched it in Japanese cinemas, mostly japaneses (MAL is not popular or even known in Japan cause it is not in japanese lang) The rest are snowflakes who also ranked the 1st season very low due to the bad repercussion of rape scenes. |
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Sunnytheunfunny said: Eh, better not to get too worked up over it. MAL scores should never be taken seriously. I've seen anime with 5 and 6 out of 10 scores that have been entertaining af, Plus, the movie's been doing very well in Japan, a lot of people enjoyed it. New to anime here so mostly rely on mal scores to decide what anime to watch. what are some places to get actual good recommendations and find anime which are good? coz if an anime is rated 5,6 it obviously goes under my radar by me thinking that people have rated it low so it must be bad. thanks |
| Loliconism > Rape towards women >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Murder, cannibalism, etc.... This is how it works and will continue to work for now, it's a bad anime anyway |
| By whining and complaining, aren't you yourself being a snowflake? |
| In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics! |
MaidenVarius said: By whining and complaining, aren't you yourself being a snowflake? This x9000. TheOmnivert said: Sunnytheunfunny said: Eh, better not to get too worked up over it. MAL scores should never be taken seriously. I've seen anime with 5 and 6 out of 10 scores that have been entertaining af, Plus, the movie's been doing very well in Japan, a lot of people enjoyed it. New to anime here so mostly rely on mal scores to decide what anime to watch. what are some places to get actual good recommendations and find anime which are good? coz if an anime is rated 5,6 it obviously goes under my radar by me thinking that people have rated it low so it must be bad. thanks I don't think MAL's scores are as bad as people claim. Just look at the top anime, for example. I doubt people would argue that most of the anime listed don't deserve their place somewhere on the list (limit it to, say, 200-ish) . https://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?limit=0 Granted, I haven't seen all of them (most of them, actually), but I've been around the anime community long enough to know most of those titles are praised by many. |
| That's hardly surprising, if you have any empathy then watching torture or rape will give you a bad time. The more empathy you have, the worse it'll be. Same with humiliation to a somewhat lesser degree. Empathy is a builtin character trait that does not change, in brutal times like those depicted in GS it may be beneficial to not have much of it. Also people at jobs interacting with pain of others (doctors, nurses, etc.) are better with little of it, otherwise that would emotionally kill them (I guess this is why nurses' injections are the most painful ones - they don't care that much, not even wait for this disinfecting alcohol to evaporate, just needle it in). Other than that it's a desired trait that makes you behave well in society without any need for law or religion. It is true that if you haven't been introduced to extreme cruelty, then your reaction will be more drastic. I'm "blessed" with very high level of empathy and I had to learn how to withstand/mentally skip it and, in physical aggression situations, turn it off (this works only when there's something like health at stake). But it's something I'd rather avoid and never enjoyed. Yet if the show is good enough and not focuses too much on cruelty - that's fine, I can take it. Like GS. Did you know that LN is much softer? I think that the word "rape" was never even used, the author is not telling what exactly is happening to women caught by goblins, focuses more on the state they finally are seen in. Would be fun to have a psychological test on MAL and then be able to filter scores by scorer's character - only similar to some degree would matter or the more similar, the more weight of the score. Then that would solve this problem (and maybe some others). |
MaWatApr 4, 2020 12:56 AM
xA-2 said: Loliconism > Rape towards women >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Murder, cannibalism, etc.... This is how it works and will continue to work for now, it's a bad anime anyway i just wonder what you brought here since you clearly do not like gs. |
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greedosk said: main page forums? bait title, perhaps? that doesn't take away the fact that this is an incredibly average, or just bad show.xA-2 said: Loliconism > Rape towards women >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Murder, cannibalism, etc.... This is how it works and will continue to work for now, it's a bad anime anyway i just wonder what you brought here since you clearly do not like gs. |
xA-2 said: main page forums? bait title, perhaps? that doesn't take away the fact that this is an incredibly average, or just bad show. so you just came to say u do not like show gs has score above 7,5 which is not a score of ''bad show'' |
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greedosk said: exactly, almost nobody like bad shows.xA-2 said: main page forums? bait title, perhaps? that doesn't take away the fact that this is an incredibly average, or just bad show. so you just came to say u do not like show gs has score above 7,5 which is not a score of ''bad show'' don't get too carried away by scores, SAO previously had a score above 8, and look at the hate it has now. And not to mention that thing, "clannad". |
xA-2 said: greedosk said: exactly, almost nobody like bad shows.so you just came to say u do not like show gs has score above 7,5 which is not a score of ''bad show'' don't get too carried away by scores, SAO previously had a score above 8, and look at the hate it has now. And not to mention that thing, "clannad". the fact gs got movie speaks for itself since they do not make movies for bad shows/unpopular i am just wondering if u are going to watch movie to score it badly (since you do not like gs) or are just gonna pass on like any person which does not like given series/movie |
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greedosk said: oh sure, of course this imitation of berserk is so good that the movie was too successful. xA-2 said: exactly, almost nobody like bad shows. don't get too carried away by scores, SAO previously had a score above 8, and look at the hate it has now. And not to mention that thing, "clannad". the fact gs got movie speaks for itself since they do not make movies for bad shows/unpopular i am just wondering if u are going to watch movie to score it badly (since you do not like gs) or are just gonna pass on like any person which does not like given series/movie popularity is not the same as "good". the problem is not because of me lol, the question is that it is not a good anime. And it's not because of rape scenes, or at least most of the time. |
xA-2 said: greedosk said: oh sure, of course this imitation of berserk is so good that the movie was too successful. the fact gs got movie speaks for itself since they do not make movies for bad shows/unpopular i am just wondering if u are going to watch movie to score it badly (since you do not like gs) or are just gonna pass on like any person which does not like given series/movie popularity is not the same as "good". the problem is not because of me lol, the question is that it is not a good anime. And it's not because of rape scenes, or at least most of the time. just so you know your opinon is not a fact. Yea you did not liked it but it does not mean it is bad and that most people/majority does not like it. except gore and dark setting i do not know how it is imitation since in berserk guts tries to kiill something akin to god where gs kills goblins.... it is like saying log horizon is bad cuz it is imitation of sword art online |
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| for god sake more people claim to have watched goblin slayer than berserk and i mean anything releated to berserk |
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greedosk said: yes, it is true that tastes are subjective and that yours are not correct too. so subjectively i tell you, this anime is worse than watching a badly animated hentai about just rapes with an obese monster pig men as protagonist.xA-2 said: oh sure, of course this imitation of berserk is so good that the movie was too successful. popularity is not the same as "good". the problem is not because of me lol, the question is that it is not a good anime. And it's not because of rape scenes, or at least most of the time. just so you know your opinon is not a fact. Yea you did not liked it but it does not mean it is bad and that most people/majority does not like it. except gore and dark setting i do not know how it is imitation since in berserk guts tries to kiill something akin to god where gs kills goblins.... it is like saying log horizon is bad cuz it is imitation of sword art online i mean more than anything to the protagonist, imitation, but just when guts goes into berserk mode obviously looks much better. as for the edgy settings, nudity and all that, they look alike if we talk only about anime. and again, you are confusing "popularity" with "good or bad". |
xA-2 said: greedosk said: yes, it is true that tastes are subjective and that yours are not correct too. so subjectively i tell you, this anime is worse than watching a badly animated hentai about just rapes with an obese monster pig men as protagonist.just so you know your opinon is not a fact. Yea you did not liked it but it does not mean it is bad and that most people/majority does not like it. except gore and dark setting i do not know how it is imitation since in berserk guts tries to kiill something akin to god where gs kills goblins.... it is like saying log horizon is bad cuz it is imitation of sword art online i mean more than anything to the protagonist, imitation, but just when guts goes into berserk mode obviously looks much better. as for the edgy settings, nudity and all that, they look alike if we talk only about anime. and again, you are confusing "popularity" with "good or bad". gs does not go into berserk mode though so i do not know what u are comparing have u even watched both shows guts literally was many times showed reckless with lots of bravado while gs takes time to prepare, scout, plan just so you remeber guts in berserker mode mainly happpens in 2016 adaptation which look like low budget '' badly animated hentai about just rapes with an obese monster pig men as protagonist.'' and the funniest thing is you rated gs with 6 where your average score ratig is 6.43 so if goblin slayer was so bad then half of things you have watche (if not most) was worse than watching a badly animated hentai about just rapes with an obese monster pig men as protagonist. justy maybe you do not like anime as much as you think you like ? |
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greedosk said: lmao, if they are not the same for you, does that mean they are completely different? Even the main cast is an imitation of the guts traveling companions. even for guts it is difficult to remove the armor. gs goes not into berserk mode, of course, this is called "Red eye angry to the power". And maybe that feeling of revenge that guts has towards the White Hawk? and that of gs with the goblins ?. Ah it's true, they are not the same according to you. The rape his sister, rape his Casca?. Ah is true, they are not similar either again.xA-2 said: yes, it is true that tastes are subjective and that yours are not correct too. so subjectively i tell you, this anime is worse than watching a badly animated hentai about just rapes with an obese monster pig men as protagonist. i mean more than anything to the protagonist, imitation, but just when guts goes into berserk mode obviously looks much better. as for the edgy settings, nudity and all that, they look alike if we talk only about anime. and again, you are confusing "popularity" with "good or bad". gs does not go into berserk mode though so i do not know what u are comparing have u even watched both shows guts literally was many times showed reckless with lots of bravado while gs takes time to prepare, scout, plan just so you remeber guts in berserker mode mainly happpens in 2016 adaptation which look like low budget '' badly animated hentai about just rapes with an obese monster pig men as protagonist.'' and the funniest thing is you rated gs with 6 where your average score ratig is 6.43 so if goblin slayer was so bad then half of things you have watche (if not most) was worse than watching a badly animated hentai about just rapes with an obese monster pig men as protagonist. justy maybe you do not like anime as much as you think you like ? Of course, the 2016 anime was majestic (I never said it was good). But put aside the 1997 anime or the movie trilogy, which for some strange reason, were much better even with CGI, than gs. I saw him on broadcast after following the manga for a while, and obviously, my mentality has changed since then, since I've seen better shows. Oh right, 6 is a phenomenal score, or rather, an average for some boring anime, and I only did it because it met the manga. but again, it became boring. more boring than that subjective hentai I told you. |
xA-2 said: greedosk said: lmao, if they are not the same for you, does that mean they are completely different? Even the main cast is an imitation of the guts traveling companions. even for guts it is difficult to remove the armor. gs goes not into berserk mode, of course, this is called "Red eye angry to the power". And maybe that feeling of revenge that guts has towards the White Hawk? and that of gs with the goblins ?. Ah it's true, they are not the same according to you. The rape his sister, rape his Casca?. Ah is true, they are not similar either again.gs does not go into berserk mode though so i do not know what u are comparing have u even watched both shows guts literally was many times showed reckless with lots of bravado while gs takes time to prepare, scout, plan just so you remeber guts in berserker mode mainly happpens in 2016 adaptation which look like low budget '' badly animated hentai about just rapes with an obese monster pig men as protagonist.'' and the funniest thing is you rated gs with 6 where your average score ratig is 6.43 so if goblin slayer was so bad then half of things you have watche (if not most) was worse than watching a badly animated hentai about just rapes with an obese monster pig men as protagonist. justy maybe you do not like anime as much as you think you like ? Of course, the 2016 anime was majestic (I never said it was good). But put aside the 1997 anime or the movie trilogy, which for some strange reason, were much better even with CGI, than gs. I saw him on broadcast after following the manga for a while, and obviously, my mentality has changed since then, since I've seen better shows. Oh right, 6 is a phenomenal score, or rather, an average for some boring anime, and I only did it because it met the manga. but again, it became boring. more boring than that subjective hentai I told you. like most of anime with this settings have companions not to mention how drastically diffrent they are guts already qestions himself a lot if he should kill griffith.....while gs have no pretense. both contain rape clearly the same anime (sarcasm) i see no point in further discussin since gs cleary hurt you somehow. from my perspective u seem like person who will not allow people enjoy show cuz u do not like it and will grab any ridiculous reason just to hate it. |
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greedosk said: for having rapes are the same anime? You read my answer, right? xA-2 said: lmao, if they are not the same for you, does that mean they are completely different? Even the main cast is an imitation of the guts traveling companions. even for guts it is difficult to remove the armor. gs goes not into berserk mode, of course, this is called "Red eye angry to the power". And maybe that feeling of revenge that guts has towards the White Hawk? and that of gs with the goblins ?. Ah it's true, they are not the same according to you. The rape his sister, rape his Casca?. Ah is true, they are not similar either again. Of course, the 2016 anime was majestic (I never said it was good). But put aside the 1997 anime or the movie trilogy, which for some strange reason, were much better even with CGI, than gs. I saw him on broadcast after following the manga for a while, and obviously, my mentality has changed since then, since I've seen better shows. Oh right, 6 is a phenomenal score, or rather, an average for some boring anime, and I only did it because it met the manga. but again, it became boring. more boring than that subjective hentai I told you. like most of anime with this settings have companions not to mention how drastically diffrent they are guts already qestions himself a lot if he should kill griffith.....while gs have no pretense. both contain rape clearly the same anime (sarcasm) i see no point in further discussin since gs cleary hurt you somehow. from my perspective u seem like person who will not allow people enjoy show cuz u do not like it and will grab any ridiculous reason just to hate it. oh, those questions take away the similarities 120%. Yes, of course they have companions, and an unfriendly tsundere protagonist who goes crazy from time to time. just one thing, these two are much more alike than anything. But even the berserk dark fantasy world is better done, so it's a bad imitation in fact. And no, i really don't like talking about anime i just wanted to comment something random here lol |
BlakexEkalb said: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Idk, I feel it’s that Goblin Slayer is just a boring show all around. I wouldn't call it boring, just kind of mediocre. Also 7.xx isn't even a bad score lmfao. |
xA-2 said: greedosk said: for having rapes are the same anime? You read my answer, right? like most of anime with this settings have companions not to mention how drastically diffrent they are guts already qestions himself a lot if he should kill griffith.....while gs have no pretense. both contain rape clearly the same anime (sarcasm) i see no point in further discussin since gs cleary hurt you somehow. from my perspective u seem like person who will not allow people enjoy show cuz u do not like it and will grab any ridiculous reason just to hate it. oh, those questions take away the similarities 120%. Yes, of course they have companions, and an unfriendly tsundere protagonist who goes crazy from time to time. just one thing, these two are much more alike than anything. But even the berserk dark fantasy world is better done, so it's a bad imitation in fact. And no, i really don't like talking about anime i just wanted to comment something random here lol i did put sarcasm in ( ) though it was bold of me to think you will get it. i would use again sarcasm but it might go over your head setting of berserk is quite diffrent since it starts as medievial > dark fantasy/ lovercraftian while gs is established from beging dark fantasy based of dnd. Mayuka said: BlakexEkalb said: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Idk, I feel it’s that Goblin Slayer is just a boring show all around. I wouldn't call it boring, just kind of mediocre. Also 7.xx isn't even a bad score lmfao. i get it nobody has to love it even llike it but saying '' this anime is worse than watching a badly animated hentai about just rapes with an obese monster pig men as protagonist.'' is a little be over exaggerated |
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greedosk said: almost all my comments were sarcasm and I think you know that. But I mean, you didn't satisfy the fact that it was a traumatic rape of a loved one that influences the main story and you mean in general. Of course it is easier to insult me, although insulting your gs is practically the same, I guess.xA-2 said: for having rapes are the same anime? You read my answer, right? oh, those questions take away the similarities 120%. Yes, of course they have companions, and an unfriendly tsundere protagonist who goes crazy from time to time. just one thing, these two are much more alike than anything. But even the berserk dark fantasy world is better done, so it's a bad imitation in fact. And no, i really don't like talking about anime i just wanted to comment something random here lol i did put sarcasm in ( ) though it was bold of me to think you will get it. i would use again sarcasm but it might go over your head setting of berserk is quite diffrent since it starts as medievial > dark fantasy/ lovercraftian while gs is established from beging dark fantasy based of dnd. Mayuka said: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I wouldn't call it boring, just kind of mediocre. Also 7.xx isn't even a bad score lmfao. i get it nobody has to love it even llike it but saying '' this anime is worse than watching a badly animated hentai about just rapes with an obese monster pig men as protagonist.'' is a little be over exaggerated It is so bad imitation that even go to the simple cliches, but ok, if you think they are completely different, it is better that way, people do not compare it with a masterpiece like berserk. oh, and sorry, comparing it to a hentai was very soft of me, at least with a hentai someone can enjoy it, gs ecchi is not even good. I would add to that hentai necrophilia, since practically gs has it to a certain extent. they don't even do it when they are alive, they leave them half dead, disgusting. |
| or some of us just found the show rather bland. MaidenVarius said: By whining and complaining, aren't you yourself being a snowflake?  @greedosk gs is established from beging dark fantasy based of dnd. poorly based on dnd the beholder should have team whipped them in season 1 because the beholder is basically a team killer in any DnD edition and on par with a litch. honestly if a show is going to be based on DnD even use dice rolls i wish they would at lest get monster CR rating right. if a group of adventures is having so much trouble with goblins then a an aberration with decades of experience and intelligence that can literally warp reality by dreaming would completely destroy them. a beholder can shoot three of these at any given time and disintegration ray makes resurrection impossible. it also has Antimagic Cone. The beholder's central eye creates an area of antimagic, as in the antimagic field spell, in a 150-foot cone. At the start of each of its turns, the beholder decides which way the cone faces and whether the cone is active. The area works against the beholder's own eye rays. |
GrimAtramentApr 12, 2020 8:27 PM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| I haven’t seen this movie but I doubt it’s getting reviewed lowly because of a rape scene. The original tv series had a rape scene, that didn’t make it bad. What made it bad was how painfully generic and mediocre the anime was. If you’re getting mad over a score doesn’t that make you the “snowflake”. |
MonochrosanityApr 12, 2020 8:43 PM
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Monochrosanity said: I haven’t seen this movie but I doubt it’s getting reviewed lowly because of a rape scene. The original tv series had a rape scene, that didn’t make it bad. What made it bad was how painfully generic and mediocre the anime was. If you’re getting mad over a score doesn’t that make you the “snowflake”. that and you have to consider the time the movie came out. it's literally competing with movies like Digimon Adventure: Last Evolution Kizuna Psycho-Pass 3: First Inspector not to mention the up coming Shin Evangelion Gekijō-ban :|| Mobile Suit Gundam Hathaway |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
greedosk said: for god sake more people claim to have watched goblin slayer than berserk and i mean anything releated to berserk Yeah i find that amusing myself too. Every action anime with some gore and a medieval setting is called a "Berserk imitation" by so many members here. But you know what, most people on MAL don't actually understand Berserk, just go check the hate-topics about Casca, it makes no sense to hate Casca and love Berserk at the same time. But well, i guess most on MAL are anime only watchers so can't blame them. On topic: I'm also tired of self-centered (mostly) Americans imposing their personal agenda on entertainment. Games, Cinema and even Anime industry is now filled with oversensitive quacks that will prioritize politics over quality control and even worse, they have manage to normalized the cancel culture and accept it thoroughly. Fortunately they didn't exist back in the late 80s early 90s or works like Berserk, Ninja Scroll, Wicked City among others would have never seen the light. It wouldn't surprise at all that some were downgrading the GS movie without even watching it out of spite, there are some weird specimens on this community. |
SoulblightApr 12, 2020 9:42 PM
greedosk said: I never said that but people who say shit like that are just meme'ing or trolling loli get it nobody has to love it even llike it but saying '' this anime is worse than watching a badly animated hentai about just rapes with an obese monster pig men as protagonist.'' is a little be over exaggerated |
BlakexEkalb said: Idk, I feel it’s that Goblin Slayer is just a boring show all around. This. Not a great show. Bad pacing mostly boring chars and all the personality of a doorknob. The eye opening first ep was the only truly good one. Not terrible...just underwhelming. Good music, though. |
| Goblin Slayer is just a badly writen gore fest who edgelord hyped during it's early days, This movie was just generic as hell from what i read about it. |
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| because ratings mean nothing, like literally 0, nothing, each person way of rating is different so the overall is always bullshit, so just watch and enjoy, GS is great and not many great anime are made now. |
| I don't see the point in back and forth banter. This OP title and post is snowflake central. Peole are allowed to like things. People are allowed to dislike things, for whatever reason. A rating is just a rating. I watched and enjoyed Goblin Slayer but tbh to me it was very generic and got most of its adoration for its willingness to get gory. Not a great show. But is entertaining. I think a lot of people have the same meh opinion as me which is why it gets a 7.xx rating. I assume the movie will be the same inkling when I watch it. |
| Yada yada, Goblin Slayer a love or hate series. It is funny how lots of users are disturbed with the 1st ep of 1st season, even if they watched a lot of more (much more) grotesque anime. Btw, this topic is outdated. The score changed a lot since more users actually watched the movie. Now it is similar to the 1st season, what is fair. |
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| It´s out on Crunchyroll now. |
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UglyBarnacle said: Or... y'know... its just not a good show? Thats exactly what I was going to say. Maybe it just bad and poorly made? Why do you have to always use feminists/"SJWs" as scapegoats when any controversial media is criticised even slightly? |
| i gave it a 7 because its on par with the better eps from the show that are not ep 1, so its fiar on that, still really enjoyable, its just like an extra ep to enjoy of good goblin slayer. It did had some of the crudeness of the fist episode that is more than welcome since this is indeed dark fantasy, and those moments are the ones that make this shine. Maybe i could stretch it to a 7.5 but thats all, its not a masterpiece, its not outstanding in animation, nor narrative or sound, or anything at all really, its just more goblin slayer, this very same thing happened to that violet evergarden movie that is just a couple OVAs in movie form, more of the same will have the same score, that happened to this and violet evergarden and its movie and pretty much to a lot of different animes that have mini arcs movies too, nothing out of this world really |
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