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Feb 18, 2020 9:07 PM

#101

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sabishiihito said:

Calvinkim12 said:
After seeing the anime ending, I was really hoping that this ending wouldn’t happen in the manga. Unfortunately, author went and chose worst girl while having the other girls suppress their feelings. I would have liked it more even if the main character ended up with Sekijou or the teacher’s sister (forgot the name)

I’m guessing we were all hoping anyone else would win but I guess We Never Learn

I think you summed up the feelings of most of the fanbase.

And 148 confirms that Uruka is the winner. I am not even gonna use a spoiler tag here. Wanna burn your laptop now or throw your phone in the toilet? I guess those were what you have been using to read this! So, might as well do that.

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Feb 18, 2020 10:32 PM

#102

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@Elverost: Very nice read. It's unfortunate how so many fans have overlooked her why she has been the most important character for the longest time now. I am sorry that I missed your very well thought out post. So, thank you!

And I completely agree that if the author did any more, it wouldn't be a harem romcom manga. It would become a 'romance manga' with harem elements in it.

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Feb 18, 2020 10:58 PM

#103

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panda42 said:

miguelrexd said:

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She is the only one who solved her problem without depend of Nariyuki.

Interesting point. But what exactly was her problem? And if she solved it by herself why would a relationship make sense?

If you're talking about just being not able to confess she had plenty of help. From Fumino, from Nariyuki and from her swimming club.
So what was her major problem?

I mean we saw not much of her personal space. Or do you recall any chapter where Nariyuki actually visited her? And we know nearly nothing about her family.
I don't say that Nariyuki shouldn't come together with Uruka, it just makes the least sense to me.

Everyone else would make sense in one way or another, but what do they get out of their relationship?
A relationship is about overcoming hardships together. Sticking together through bad times. They never had these "bad times".

Which hardship did they overcome?

They never put any work into their relationship.

Helping with overcoming the death of Nariyukis father?

I know how that feels.

That's no reason for falling in love. At least I didn't.

I mean they are even physically separated (unless she gives up her dream, which would lead to a loss), so what would be the point? How could a relationship that starts with a loss work out?

Personally I think that if they stay together in Japan the relationship is unstable. And if Uruka doesn't it's unstable too.

Yes but at the beginning Uruka didn´t confessed because her shyness, but after we can see how she get another attitude toward her feelings to Nariyuki, and this is part of what @PersiaJuliet23 said in the post #14.
There are the two sides of the same coin, as long as Fumino make of Cupid for her friends being aware about their feeling except for herself, and there is Uruka who is the most aware about her love but not with her friend’s feelings, this means that while Fumino thinks about who could Nariyuki love? Uruka start to think about what actually Nariyuki wants? She decide to keep her feelings even with the opportunities and the support of her friends because she knows that it could affect the studies of Yuiga, that is why she waited till the final exam to make the confession, even she said it in the chapter 90, the kiss was in the heat of the moment, but even so it wasn´t an accident like the other two, but even so as long as Fumino tried to kiss Nariyuki for jealous(even she admits it in this chapter, if the other girls weren’t arrived in that moment she actually was going to stole a kiss from him), Uruka did it for love, as I said she didn´t knew of the love of the other girls but even so when she realized about it she accepted as friends, not with jealous, so while Fumino thinks in Nariyuki´s feelings and Uruka thinks about Yuiga´s studies, and suppressed her own feelings as Fumino but in a different way, (like I said the same coin) both heroines worrying for the protagonist to their way, but in this kind of story I think Uruka´s flag could be a little more heavy for the argument , remember that this is a manga about studies and love.

About her family, do you think that it were really relevant for the story? I mean in the other waifus some familiar appeared, but they were part important of every respective heroine´s arc, Fumino´s mother is who take the most sentimental importance in her arc, she is who inspired Furuhashi for try to study the stars an science, she is who have almost all the plot weight there. Miharu is a reflect of the broken dream of Mafuyu, is like seeing herself back then, a way to Nariyuki knows about Kirisu´s past. Rizu´s grandma is the same as Fumino´s mother, she is there for make the heroine take the decision to follow a way for her, and she is an emotional anchor for the plot. The clinic of Asumi´s family is the pillar of her arc, to know her father is an essential part of her plot.
As you can see the whole girls plots includes their family problems or even they are the motor of the same, except for Uruka´s arc and that is because her plot don’t have any relation with her family, and she don’t need it for hold her story, she can carry with the story without it. The only family character that there is without direct relation with the arcs of the heroines is the Rizu´s Father, but he is just a fast and easy joke in the story telling, or could u say what did he ported to their relationship?

- This could be very obvious but if you ask something for your couple in a relationship as you say, you´re making the conditional that “love” and there supposed to love be unconditional, Uruka and Nariyuki started their love being admiration for each other and here we see how it grows and evolves beyond the admiration.
- “”They never put any work into their relationship.”” Really? She fainted for overextend with the studies and the swimming at the same time for make him acknowledge her. He failed an exam for can see her in a competition even when she weren´t noticed it, she reserved her feelings for not bother him in his studies, she is the only girl who he actually had to force to join the study group because he cares about her, etc, etc… Right now in this moment he is running for reach Uruka before she has gone.
- Yes Uruka helped Nariyuki to overcome his father´s death but that didn´t made him like Uruka, if you remind Yuiga Forgot about it and just remembered it after the confession, it was the last hit for make him realize about it, but when she helped them Nariyuki started to feel admiration and appreciation for Uruka and this story is about how it evolved in love with the time.
“”Personally I think that if they stay together in Japan the relationship is unstable. And if Uruka doesn't it's unstable too.”” And again you´re adding a conditional connotation to the love, if you need some condition for can love somebody, can you really call it love? Really the distance is going to make you love somebody less?

miguelrexdFeb 18, 2020 11:11 PM

Feb 19, 2020 6:25 AM

#104

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@miguelrexd: Because that is westernised mentality. The reason why we have tons of single parent families due to divorce, 17 dating before reaching the age of 30 and still cannot settle and stuff like that. You know, love needs to set conditions. That's how majority of the western people think.

They don't realize how it works in Asian countries. My colleague from Japan is away 350 days a year from his wife for three years now but always shares stories of what she is doing back home. He doesn't know how good I am in Japanese so I giggle on the inside when he talks with her on the phone during lunch break or when we are out as a team for lunch. His conversation is so respectful and full of kindness. From what she had for dinner to what she is planning to watch on the TV. He literally treats her like a princess. And I find it very adorable of him.

Western fans will probably cannot even imagine how long distance love works. It's a cultural thing. Asian people normally have more emotional connection than the need of physical intimacy. At least that's what I got while working with people from both Asia and the people over here.

As someone with Asian ancestry, I can somewhat relate.

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Feb 19, 2020 6:48 AM

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@shanimebib Good point, in this side of the world is hard to find some one to thinks like that, the value of love is just a cute word now between the couples.

miguelrexdFeb 19, 2020 6:57 AM

Feb 19, 2020 9:27 AM

#106

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@shanimebib
I think I understand what you mean. But even in the Manga they acknowledge that it rarely works.
I heard that a lot of people in Japan divorce quite quickly though, sometimes even during honeymoon. That's better than divorcing like a lot of people in the west, after having a child, though.
I also don't like that she's (probably) just gone. And we learned nearly nothing about her family.
I mean after all she is not a bad character and some shenanigans with all of them together would have been nice. I just hope that the story will stay interesting.

Feb 20, 2020 1:31 AM

#107

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Long distance relationship actually work more often then usual ones (you can Google statistics) and it's because couples that are willing go with it are dedicated ones. Those who isn't usually break up before
moving away.

Of course there are some doesn't last but majority of those who does not work had problems prior long distance relationship.

Feb 20, 2020 1:31 AM

#108

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Long distance relationship actually work more often then usual ones (you can Google statistics) and it's because couples that are willing go with it are dedicated ones to beginpl. Those who isn't usually break up before
moving away.

Of course there are some doesn't last but majority of those who does not work had problems prior long distance relationship.

Feb 20, 2020 3:44 AM

#109

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Glad to know the dog shit anime only ending is actually the ending of the Manga. I'm out fuck this

Feb 20, 2020 4:29 AM

#110

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Retri_Yukizawa said:
Glad to know the dog shit anime only ending is actually the ending of the Manga. I'm out fuck this

It's a bit different. Also it's not nessecarily the ending.
Just wait a bit, in a few weeks we will know more.

Feb 20, 2020 4:38 AM

#111

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Tenzen12 said:
Long distance relationship actually work more often then usual ones (you can Google statistics) and it's because couples that are willing go with it are dedicated ones to beginpl. Those who isn't usually break up before
moving away.

Of course there are some doesn't last but majority of those who does not work had problems prior long distance relationship.

Interesting (lol, now I got interested into the psychology side of things :D).
However I read that they often break up after meeting again.
Well, let's see how the author handles it.

Feb 20, 2020 7:20 AM

#112

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If only onodera got her share too hahahahaha, anyway i can accept yotsuba but for this series, i experiencing the same feeling i felt towards onodera and rem when they got rejected lol poor fumi chan

Feb 20, 2020 7:34 AM

#113

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Onodera won though. Courtesy of Tsutsui.

Feb 20, 2020 8:11 AM

#114

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Tenzen12 said:
Onodera won though. Courtesy of Tsutsui.

I have to admit, I never truly believed you when you said Tsutsui Taishi cannot help it and will eventually give in to his desire to make Uruka the winner many chapters back when it looked like it will go down to either Fumino or Sensei at the end.

It seems like only yesterday now but that was actually quite an early call. Good on you.

The seeds were already sown in the story. Many failed to pick them because they were doped by the loser flag all over her.

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Feb 25, 2020 7:47 PM

#115

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Ah shit my girl lost
F in the chat for best girl Furuhashi
:<

Dec 8, 2020 10:48 PM

#116

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Haha at the end they all had their route

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