| I think this is a strong contender for most underrated show of the season. Granted, it buries itself in all the tropes of slice of life, but it's incredibly good nonetheless. The animation is way more than what you'd for its genre, music is by the same composer as the one for Houseki no Kuni and Sora Yori and Kamuri is voiced my the magnificent Maria Naganawa. I'd liken this to the My Hero Academia of high school slice of life, generic but perfect AF. |
| While it looks nice, has a solid execution, and is very charming, it's also (a you admitted) generic as fuck, and it doesn't really add anything new to a genre I think is (close to) becoming oversaturated. Where Yuru Camp has as main gimmick off-season camping and that other show has girls going ti the South Pole, what does Slow Start have that drives every episode? Certainly not the fact that Hana got set a year behind, because it rarely comes up, and the show functions perfectly without it. This show is a CGDCT in its most basic form and I can name several shows that worked just as well, if not better and became far more popular as a result. Don;' get me wrong, I love this show, but I can certainly understand why not many people are talking about it. |
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Firelord76 said: I'll admit, that is a fair demerit against the show. However, originality comes in all shapes and forms, if two different people were to play a song, they'd sound different. Really, it actually comes down to "bold" or "cautious" as the question at hand. I think making something as generic as this is bold in its own way, I wish I knew the budget to see exactly how bold it is, because the animation quality is at least worth mentioning. While it looks nice, has a solid execution, and is very charming, it's also (a you admitted) generic as fuck, and it doesn't really add anything new to a genre I think is (close to) becoming oversaturated. Firelord76 said: What really sets Yuru Camp apart, is how effective it is as an iyashikei, not the gimmick of camping. What sets Sora Yori apart is the idea "my life is boring and forgettable, I'm going to do something really stupid and extreme to change that" as well as a great cast and high production values.Where Yuru Camp has as main gimmick off-season camping and that other show has girls going ti the South Pole, what does Slow Start have that drives every episode? Certainly not the fact that Hana got set a year behind, because it rarely comes up, and the show functions perfectly without it. What sets Slow Start apart is how it doesn't try to subvert all these tropes. Instead opting to refine the basics really well. Firelord76 said: The only thing I can think of, that is just this, is Sansha Sanyou, and I personally think Slow Start is better than that.This show is a CGDCT in its most basic form and I can name several shows that worked just as well, if not better and became far more popular as a result. Firelord76 said: I too see why people hate this but it's my second favorite anime of this very strong season (Second to Yuru Camp). I hope pointing out the reasons it's great might help people appreciate it more that Ryou`s work is never done (which I haven't seen, but having seen a bit of the studio's other work, Tenshi no 3P, know exactly what to expect from it).Don;' get me wrong, I love this show, but I can certainly understand why not many people are talking about it. |
DeitysDynasty said: Slow Start? How? What even is that?I thought it was going to be a show on regigus |
| or maybe it's just bad it's hinako note level bad, boring and generic moe sol even worse that another great Kirara anime is airing at the same time (Yuru Camp), so it's completely being overshadowed. |
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GangsterCat said: I agree, that it's generic as hell, but it's good. Something can be generic and good, and this is such.or maybe it's just bad it's hinako note level bad, boring and generic moe sol even worse that another great Kirara anime is airing at the same time (Yuru Camp), so it's completely being overshadowed. I'm not sure if that's a counter-argument, but I don't like internet arguments anyway so lets just call it a free expression of my opinion. Anyway, a moment of silence to acknowledge the awesomeness of Yuru Camp. EDIT: I took a glance at the MAL page for Hinako Note, that seems genuinely terrible. |
DeitysDynasty said: Well I'd say a reference like that in a forum for an unpopular A-1 Pictures slice of life is a bit too advanced. Tenderizer17 said: It’s a Pokemon reference to his abilitySlow Start? How? What even is that? |
DeitysDynasty said: Damn right I am.Tenderizer17 said: I guess youre right 😂Well I'd say a reference like that in a forum for an unpopular A-1 Pictures slice of life is a bit too advanced. .. |
| Slow Start only looks generic if you try to see it from the perspective of the genres, it's a Slice of Life with none of the characters in any kind of club or activity, so at first glance someone just watching the first episode would think it's generic. But after watching the 2nd episode you realize it's one of the most fresh shows regarding the cast of characters: That "Sis-juice" segment started a character dynamic that you don't normally see in these kind of shows at all, it's refreshing how in almost every episode (except 8 and 10 because they were heavily focused on Hana) the characters can be so casually lewd while being at the same time cute and also make it work. It's a snowball effect that seems to have reached it's peak with the "fresh lychees" in episode 9, the last time I saw something of that level was the "classy little bean" in Yuyushiki and that was in 2013, and the characters didn't even dare to say it out loud. Basically this show has no limits, it does whatever it wants and will always catch you off-guard. Even the characters got a lot of development by themselves, besides the already talked episodes 8 and 10 for Hana, Kamu got over her shyness as the show progressed, at the start she was scared of Tama and then she started complementing all the jokes Tama did to the point in episode 11 she gives plenty of punch-lines to most of Tama jokes, the HorribleSubs wrongly called the HanaTama idol unit a comedy duo, but at this point Tama and Kamu are a real comedy duo. Of course we can't forget Eiko, she was already different to the average Slice of Life character since the golden week episode, but after episodes 7 and now 11 we see sides of Eiko you'd never imagine to see from a confident character like her. Someone asked above what's the new thing this show adds to the genre, and of course isn't Hana, the only new thing Hana did for her archetype was the Hama-kuma-chan and Tama-kuma-chan scene, and it was above average at best. The real new thing this show has is Eiko and Sensei. |
| I like it more than SoraYori and especially Yuru Camp tbh, I hope it at least ends over the 7 on MAL between the 1/5 episodes rule and the ratings for people who wait until the end to give a score, because the current 6.75 is retardedly low. |
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MetaThPr4h said: BLASPHEMYI like it more than SoraYori and especially Yuru Camp tbh HOW DARE YOU |
| I found it to be about as generic as it gets as far as CGDCT anime go. It's not baaaad, but there's like nothing that makes it stand out from the rest of the genre either |
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Tenderizer17 said: MetaThPr4h said: BLASPHEMYI like it more than SoraYori and especially Yuru Camp tbh HOW DARE YOU SoraYori started fantastic but the drama is far from hitting me since episode 4. I still enjoy the cute girls interactions so it's good on my book, but meh, I can't say I agree with the hype train at all. And Yuru Camp is an iyashikei, I find most iyashikei anime boring and I say this as someone who has been reading the manga since before the anime even got announced, being able to set my own pacing while reading it instead of the slow one of the anime makes it quite more enjoyable. Anyways, for both versions I always think that Rin and Nadeshiko are nice and I like them, but the rest of the cast kinda sucks tbh, I prefer it when focused on those two. Meanwhile Slow Start is just as entertaining as I want my cgdct anime to be, the characters are likeable, the animation is freaking nice, and Hana has some scenes with other characters that are super heartwarming and I love that. |
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| I would personally nominate Hakumei to Mikochi for that particular title. This show is good, though easy to overlook for how basic it is. |
| Not the best but definetly the most underrated. BTW why do people even mention Yuru Camp or Sora yori mot Tooi Basho? They are like as far from being underrated as they could possibly be. |
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| It's a stale Kirara anime that doesn't step outside of its comfort zone. In fact, it seems to do the opposite, and tries to maximize the pandering towards the niche audience it previously attracted. Also, it's terribly over animated. How can I feel comfy when the characters are so animated and lively? Tomm01p said: You're misunderstanding the comparison. People are explaining why Slow Start is having a hard time being as relevant as Yuru Camp or Yorimoi by pointing out what those shows bring to the table that Slow Start doesn't. BTW why do people even mention Yuru Camp or Sora yori mot Tooi Basho? They are like as far from being underrated as they could possibly be. |
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| It was an OK at best show tbh, 5/10 for me. |
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Wasshio said: GangsterCat said: or maybe it's just bad it's hinako note level bad, boring and generic moe sol even worse that another great Kirara anime is airing at the same time (Yuru Camp), so it's completely being overshadowed. But Yuru Camp is already overlooked by a lot of people in the community... it's not really that overshadowed compared to others. Syrup- said: It's a stale Kirara anime that doesn't step outside of its comfort zone. In fact, it seems to do the opposite, and tries to maximize the pandering towards the niche audience it previously attracted. Also, it's terribly over animated. How can I feel comfy when the characters are so animated and lively? You're misunderstanding the comparison. People are explaining why Slow Start is having a hard time being as relevant as Yuru Camp or Yorimoi by pointing out what those shows bring to the table that Slow Start doesn't. Yeah I understand that comparison but some people worded it as if these series were overshadowed when in reality they ain't. Are they underrated compared to the bigger SoL stuff? Yeah, technically. But... compared to the other stuff this season, they actually aren't much by a long shot tho. For an A-1 Pictures production, for a Kirara anime, for an SOL, yeah it's totally overshadowed. Slow Start doesn't even have half the MAL viewers of Yuru Camp or Yorimoi. Even if there are people like you and I who prefer to watch many shows per season who likely picked it up even if it were at the bottom of the barrel, I'd call Slow Start completely overshadowed. You know what shocks me the most is that Takagi-san managed to do so well despite people complaining about the casting choices and not so promising visuals. edit: Also, I wouldn't call Slow Start underrated, just completely overshadowed. There were some big boys at the playground today, and Slow Start just wasn't one of them. |
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Wasshio said: It has three times as much reception as Slow Start did (29k vs 100k people who have it on their list), with a much better rating. Compared to Slow Start, where I would imagine they threw a lot of money at animation budget (try to find a scene where every other frame isn't animated), I'd say Takagi-san was a great success. Hmm I haven't payed much attention to Takagi-san's forums at all since as you can tell I dropped it (it was just not for me per say, but I might give it another shot) but that doesn't coorelate too well with what you're saying. If its doing highly well despite the complaints then wouldn't that be a lower rating by comparison? Then again, Slow Start can be applied the same way as well. There are people (including me) that do like it... despite the lower rating. |
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Tomm01p said: Not the best but definetly the most underrated. BTW why do people even mention Yuru Camp or Sora yori mot Tooi Basho? They are like as far from being underrated as they could possibly be. Agreed, those two are above 8, hardly underrated. The way I see it is that Yuru Camp started as an underdog with average score then it slowly crawled up and Sorayori already hit it off with a high score from the start. |
MomoSinX said: lot of people mention those titles because it's the same 'type' of anime. cute girls doing something. while Yuru has maximum comfiness and Yori has this ambitious theme (plus drama), SlowStart is just staple cutegirlsdoingcutethings.Tomm01p said: Not the best but definetly the most underrated. BTW why do people even mention Yuru Camp or Sora yori mot Tooi Basho? They are like as far from being underrated as they could possibly be. Agreed, those two are above 8, hardly underrated. The way I see it is that Yuru Camp started as an underdog with average score then it slowly crawled up and Sorayori already hit it off with a high score from the start. |
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Chimerared said: Too be fair, its original premise kind of sucks. I disagree, this show almost completely ignores it's premise which makes me wonder what the point was of having it in the first place. |
Syrup- said: I think the over-animation is a good thing. Imagine how much it would suck if it was under-animated.Also, it's terribly over animated. How can I feel comfy when the characters are so animated and lively? I'm not trying to argue a point with this, just state it. I don't have the information necessary to sort this out. |
Tenderizer17 said: Too be fair, its original premise kind of sucks. Sure but without the premise which it failed to utilize effectively it has nothing else going for it, I don't think that Slow Start was bad but I don't think it was good either, it was a competently made show that took no risks and failed to make an impression, the ultimate cookie cutter show. Not only that but there are a lot of CGDCT shows airing this season and I would say that at least five of them are better than Slow Start and I'll probably remember them all in a year's time, I will probably forget this one in a month. I'm not saying that I hate this show but I've seen it done better countless times. |
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Chimerared said: I don't think it's as cookie cutter as you say. Granted, the show as a whole isn't particularly unique but I can't think of a single episode that was completely entrenched in CGDCT tropes. The broad strokes aren't particularly unique, but the finer details are. Tenderizer17 said: Too be fair, its original premise kind of sucks. Sure but without the premise which it failed to utilize effectively it has nothing else going for it, I don't think that Slow Start was bad but I don't think it was good either, it was a competently made show that took no risks and failed to make an impression, the ultimate cookie cutter show. Not only that but there are a lot of CGDCT shows airing this season and I would say that at least five of them are better than Slow Start and I'll probably remember them all in a year's time, I will probably forget this one in a month. I'm not saying that I hate this show but I've seen it done better countless times. |
| I really don't understand the comments here. Slow Start is most certainly not a generic CGDCT, and in my eyes is most certainly less generic than Yuru Camp. It's not about the setting but about what it does. Yes, Slow Start is another CGDCT that has school as it's the main basis. But that doesn't mean much at all. What Slow Start brings to the table are its characters and the unique perspectives that we get from them. While Yuru Camp uses it's focus on outdoor camping to bring nothing new to the table, Slow Start uses it's "gimmick" to show a case of a character with anxiety and provide a caring support system around her. There are great messages about accepting yourself and legitimizing one's feelings. Not to mention the slow development of the characters and how many of the characters are outside of the typical mould of CGDCT. It certainly is a CGDCT at heart, but it's one that has a lot to offer and one that I think is vastly underrated. |
Chimerared said: Sure but without the premise which it failed to utilize effectively it has nothing else going for it Eiko and Enami-sensei. |
Fircoal said: I really don't understand the comments here. Slow Start is most certainly not a generic CGDCT, and in my eyes is most certainly less generic than Yuru Camp. It's not about the setting but about what it does. Yes, Slow Start is another CGDCT that has school as it's the main basis. But that doesn't mean much at all. What Slow Start brings to the table are its characters and the unique perspectives that we get from them. While Yuru Camp uses it's focus on outdoor camping to bring nothing new to the table, Slow Start uses it's "gimmick" to show a case of a character with anxiety and provide a caring support system around her. There are great messages about accepting yourself and legitimizing one's feelings. Not to mention the slow development of the characters and how many of the characters are outside of the typical mould of CGDCT. It certainly is a CGDCT at heart, but it's one that has a lot to offer and one that I think is vastly underrated. Well said. I just finished reading your review and I couldn't agree more with most of it. There is so much more here than people are giving it credit for. It simply can't be written off as generic moe; there is so much depth to the characters in their personal struggles and the chemistry between all of them felt very sincere. The comedy was genuinely laugh out loud funny at times, the dialog was sharply written, and the character animation was spot on. |
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| It certainly is underrated. The problem resides on people who rate things without understanding genres... People with lack of knowledge -and-plenty-of-ego- usually go to think serious means good, and this "CGDCT garbage" is crap... To be a reviewer, first you need to have enough experience and be open minded. For me at least, this was a really relaxing show; episodes felt really short which is what happens when having a good time; characters were not the most unique, but great; animation, VA, art, etc... way obove average; and the story has more than just the original premise... now, I don't think the black haired girl stalking Eiko is going to brutally murder her or anything like it... come on... When you ate pudding you are not expecting it to suddenly taste spicy, then go sour and finally gets sweet again, am I right? this kind of shows are that: pudding, and pudding is great. (if it does, could be interesting though) |
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Apollo_Madao said: I think it's just genuinely impossible to rate things properly. Highly rated doesn't equal good. It certainly is underrated. The problem resides on people who rate things without understanding genres. Take Kimi no na Wa as an example |
Tenderizer17 said: Apollo_Madao said: I think it's just genuinely impossible to rate things properly. Highly rated doesn't equal good. It certainly is underrated. The problem resides on people who rate things without understanding genres. Take Kimi no na Wa as an example Of course, is a subjective thing after all, but criticizing a SOL for "plot not advancing" (as a lot of is predisposed to say) is pretty out of place. You for example, liked it for the right reasons to a SOL acknowledging the limitations of the genre. Haven't yet seen Kimi no na Wa, but yeah, is common for overhyped stuff to get overrated, as sadly it is for uderrated stuff to be trashed. |
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| I've just finished watching Sora Yori and Yuru Camp and I don't really see much else that interests me until Steins;Gate 0 comes out. Do you think I might like this show, or is it probably going to fall short of my expectations after seeing YC & SY? |
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ituhata said: Set your expectations really low and Slow Start won't fall short. I've just finished watching Sora Yori and Yuru Camp and I don't really see much else that interests me until Steins;Gate 0 comes out. Do you think I might like this show, or is it probably going to fall short of my expectations after seeing YC & SY? |
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