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Aug 18, 2017 10:19 AM
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Well this is interesting. Nina can transform into a Red Dragon with free will now.

I think it's also interesting that the demon side is starting to make their next move.
Idk why but I also find Azazel's relationship with Mugaro to be really cute.

Really glad to see this show return! Favaro's trolling is priceless
Aug 18, 2017 11:33 AM
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Nina in love mode is so cute (〃ω〃)
I get Azazel's feelings but he is getting on my nerves. Sure she didn't transform into a dragon when he needed it, but the whole plan was flawed for relying on such an uncertain factor; not to mention that he just wanted to use her. So can't really empathize with him, even though he went through a lot.
I see that Kaisar awakened to something new

Aug 18, 2017 11:45 AM
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Nina can freely transform into a dragon and she sure puts back her cloths fast. Kaisar disguising himself has a female demon was something.

Favaro giving life lessons to Nina. I miss Amira.

Aug 18, 2017 11:55 AM
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I missed this so much! (╥_╥) I'm so glad that it's back...
Aug 18, 2017 12:04 PM
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I don't know how Nina will continue to play this double game. She will have to choose sides soon enough and I think that beastly bounty hunter is going to make it for her.

Kaiser in drag was hilarious, LOL-
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Aug 18, 2017 12:30 PM
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ye Nina can transform into a dragon at will now

damn the Onyx Knights have rotting bodies the more they use that forbidden power

and Favaro giving advice for Nina to choose wisely since it will be a trade-off later on
we even saw Amira as a flashback
Aug 18, 2017 12:51 PM
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I'm annoyed with Nina and her constant gushing over Charioce.....Even after that great talk from Favaro, I feel like she's still gonna fuck up

All my feels went out to my boy Azazel though.....I felt that rage and frustration that he had towards Nina in my soul and seeing him visit the site of where his friends/family died was rough :(

Good episode though and it was nice to see that quick cameo of best girl Amira :'')
Aug 18, 2017 1:12 PM
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I'm glad this show is back. Nina can turn into a dragon by her own free will. Azazel wasn't so happy when he saw that. Kaiser in disguise was funny. He asked his subordinates to help him. He even apologized. Nina gushing over Charioce is cute. Favaro gave her some good advice. Looks like someone is going to try to kill her.
Aug 18, 2017 1:34 PM
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The wait for this felt like an eternity .__.

Loved the interaction between Nina and Favaro, was so funny, yet emotional too.

Azazel had it tough this episode, Ninas transformarion reminded him at his heavy loss, poor guy :/ He had also a nice moment with Mugaro.

Looking forward to next time when Kaisar will realize his infiltration plan.

Also assassination plotted against Nina.

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Aug 18, 2017 1:45 PM

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El yelling in that episode preview was probably the cutest shit I've ever seen. I'm glad he an Azazel reconciled
Aug 18, 2017 1:49 PM

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Am I the only one who felt yaoi vibes this episode? Because man El and Azazel...it was pushing the vibes hard. But good to have this show back. Favaro was playing the feels man...calling back to season 1 and all that with the final fight against Bahamut.
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Aug 18, 2017 2:35 PM
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I am really getting tired of Nina and her shitty romance. The moment she transformed i was certain Azazel was going to get triggered, which he did, but in the end he managed to control his emotions.

Azazel in general is the only character who keeps delivering great moments and carrying this show almost single-handedly at times. Favaro had a nice moment in this episode but has barely done anything other than that and basically all the cool characters are getting pushed to the side in order to have more Nina and Charioce.

Also, i feel like Alessand agreeing to help is kinda bullshit. Unless he actually betrays them in exchange for joining the Onyx soldiers or something among those lines, which would be very interesting.
Aug 18, 2017 2:53 PM

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Zantius said:
Am I the only one who felt yaoi vibes this episode? Because man El and Azazel...it was pushing the vibes hard. But good to have this show back. Favaro was playing the feels man...calling back to season 1 and all that with the final fight against Bahamut.


I prefer to see it as -big bro cares about little bro- kind of relationship. Sure, Japanese creators love to put fanservice and yaoi baits and I would not be surprised if pixiv is already full of yaoi fanarts of them. But I don't think that is the case here, they are not trying to put yaoi vibes in their relationship, I mean.
Not trying to bash any ships but, even though they're supernatural beings...I mean it still feels weird to ship them, El's still a child. Not my cup of tea but.. they're fictional characters, I guess?
Aug 18, 2017 3:08 PM

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I'm glad that Azazel admits how stupidly he's been acting and that his allies died because of his impatience and desperation, rather than blaming Nina. I think now he's ready to redeem himself and finally help his kind.
Aug 18, 2017 3:48 PM
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I really like how this show continues to spread the focus on every character well.

Azazel and Mugaro are reunited, they are like father and song ever since the day Azazel found him. Very heartwarming scene.

Kaisar and Alessand/Diaz are reunited as well, also neatly done conversation.

And then Favaro reminiscing about Amira. He definitely used Nina's words to direct it to her.
Aug 18, 2017 4:17 PM

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Nina/Favaro was great.

I want Amira back.
Aug 18, 2017 4:37 PM

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I liked the conversation between Nina and Favaro at the end (lol at him trolling her with the I love you thing). Kaisar in drag was funny, and Azazel spent most of this episode pissed off. I have a bad feeling about whatever the hell was going on in that post-ED scene.
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Aug 18, 2017 4:53 PM

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Great return!

Where are you, Amira? T_T
Aug 18, 2017 5:19 PM

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FINALLY new episode! How dare you take 2-week break during freaking summer, it was the worst T_T

That scene when Nina turned into dragon, I thought Azazel would start screaming or blaming her for not doing it before, but he just started crying... That totally hit me, poor guy, you could feel his sense of helplessness.

Nina and Favaro are the best together, they have such a great master/pupil relationship, without anything sexual in the air, I wish we got to see more of them fooling around together.


Other than that, one of the best ED cards yet!

Azazel and Mugaro have something going on, at least Mugaro seems to be weirdly attracted to him...

Next episode is titled "Shall we dance", I can already start fangirling!
Aug 18, 2017 5:54 PM

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Still not too fond of Nina or her entire romantic subplot, but I enjoyed her moment with Favaro. They have a nice mentor/pupil relationship. Speaking of Favaro, it's nice that we still see that the events at the end of Genesis are still on his mind. Pretty sure the "I love you!" he yelled at the moon was directed towards Amira. Hope she appears in the finale, I miss her.
Aug 18, 2017 6:24 PM

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Ahh I missed this show!
Kaiser in drag was hilarious XD
And Azasel and Muguro's relationship was cute to see
Lmao Favaro is still the best! I really like the friendship that he and Nina have, it makes me miss Amira though
Anyway, looking forward to the next episode! Nina's going to be hunted!
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Aug 18, 2017 7:17 PM

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Nice to see the show back.

So sad seeing Azazel tear up, but it's nice of Mugaro to be there for him.
I enjoy Favaro and Nina's relationship. Gotta think hard about want you want. I wish Amira was still around.

Nina got a target on her back.
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Aug 18, 2017 7:28 PM

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BE careful, Nina. One miss word and Rita will surely prove that you've met with Charioce again.
Looks like it's going to need more time for Kaisar to get Alessand's trust so he can help with the Palace Ball... Or not. That was easy.
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Aug 18, 2017 8:59 PM
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Favaro! Please keep telling yourself that Amira is alive!!
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I'm glad Azazel talked to Mugaro, was sad when he ignore him at first.

The conversation between Favaro and Nina was nice although my heart wasn't prepared for that Amira flashback

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Other than that, one of the best ED cards yet!
Yeah, loved it!
Aug 18, 2017 10:03 PM

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I am really getting tired of Nina and her shitty romance. The moment she transformed i was certain Azazel was going to get triggered, which he did, but in the end he managed to control his emotions.

Azazel in general is the only character who keeps delivering great moments and carrying this show almost single-handedly at times. Favaro had a nice moment in this episode but has barely done anything other than that and basically all the cool characters are getting pushed to the side in order to have more Nina and Charioce.


You are the first I see saying that and agree so much ! A majority of people just seem to ignore Azazel almost completely,unless it's to criticize him.
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Mouloxas said:
I am really getting tired of Nina and her shitty romance. The moment she transformed i was certain Azazel was going to get triggered, which he did, but in the end he managed to control his emotions.

Azazel in general is the only character who keeps delivering great moments and carrying this show almost single-handedly at times. Favaro had a nice moment in this episode but has barely done anything other than that and basically all the cool characters are getting pushed to the side in order to have more Nina and Charioce.


You are the first I see saying that and agree so much ! A majority of people just seem to ignore Azazel almost completely,unless it's to criticize him.


Azzy, Rita and Rocky are the only reason I'm still watching this show. Tbh I don't really care about the other characters.
Aug 18, 2017 11:20 PM

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That mercenary at the end was giving off some serious dovahkiin vibes, I will lose it if he fus do rahs Nina.
Aug 19, 2017 1:20 AM

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Yeah, gotta agree with the others who are saying Azazel almost single-handedly carried this episode, as his material at this point is far more interesting and emotionally compelling than Nina and Charioce's terrible romance has ever been. That being said, at least we actually saw evidence of some doubt in the King when that Onyx Knight guy bought up the Red Dragon again, so that's a start. Also, Favaro got a nice moment at the end with his conversation with Nina and his thinking back to Amira, but I still feel like Nina will screw up despite his excellent advice.
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This episode is well done and I feel for Azazel, sure his methods of doing things don't sit well with everyone but his intentions are good. Nina is a little too carefree for my liking at this stage of the series, it felt to me like she will side with the King no matter how many of her friends die and she will only take his side and no one else.

Favaro's advise to her at the end got me thinking that not everyone close to her is going to make it out alive because of her attitude.
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No one seem to have mentioned it so far;
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I have a feeling that Onyx Squad is actually honest in doing all this for the betterment of kingdom and people. The moment when the Captain told Alessandro that he is not worthy to me seems more of a warning, not an insult. He acknowledges they are all paying with their lives to be able to serve the kingdom, and seeing a honest young man such as Alessandro made him consider, whether someone like him should be bearing the same curse Onyx Knights do? That would be neat. It seems as if there is no completely bad side, everyone is just distraught and looking for a way to solve the situation. Unless Charioce unveils some dark force foe, the series is going to get quite depressing.
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No one seem to have mentioned it so far;

This seems VERY far fetched, because Charioce had bought it in a dirthole they throw every demon in. Some demon street-paddler possessing a claw of Bahamut? Doubt (X).
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No one seem to have mentioned it so far;

This seems VERY far fetched, because Charioce had bought it in a dirthole they throw every demon in. Some demon street-paddler possessing a claw of Bahamut? Doubt (X).


That's what they want you to believe until it's revealed as a powerful plot tool ¦3
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It is just my theory but what the King is probably try to pull off is to kill Bahamut for good cos hundreds or thousands of years and he will get resurrected again. So probably that's the "goal" he try to achieve in this fucked up way.

If that is true Amira might get a chance to get free in the end.
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Daniel_Naumov said:

This seems VERY far fetched, because Charioce had bought it in a dirthole they throw every demon in. Some demon street-paddler possessing a claw of Bahamut? Doubt (X).


That's what they want you to believe until it's revealed as a powerful plot tool ¦3

Yeah and the moon landing was (not) real *puts tinfoil hat on the elbow*.
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With all those delays I almost forgot this existed, lol.

I almost felt pity for Azazel... Then I remember his self of the first season and I get over it.
The last scene with Favaro and Nina was nice. I like their relationship a lot. It was nice to see a mention of Amira after all those episodes.

I'm also happy those two of Dias and Alessand finally have a role in the story.
Poor Kaisar, though, just when you think the show will give him some break, he is ridiculed again.
Aug 19, 2017 12:06 PM

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Things are just SOOOO much better now that Favaro is back. Him following her along quietly, and the fact that he's been through what she's about to go through will be a great help for her. That half second cameo for Amira..... sniff.... if only he could bring her back somehow...... I feel like his screams, whilst partly making fun of Nina, were actually partly for her.

Azazel's situation is a tragedy, and whilst he wants to lash out, I commend him for holding back on Nina. If he ever found out who she fell in love with though...... my god hell's gonna be unleashed. Mugaro being the ever obedient follower was cute. A future alliance between the Demons and the Gods may well be cemented by these two.

Kaisar finally manages to meet up with his Knights, though the young kid hates his guts right now. Him in drag was.... a bit too much though..

And that ominous beastly character at the end, even the Onyx Soldiers know Charioce is out of line. They are pretty quick to take steps.
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I am really getting tired of Nina and her shitty romance. The moment she transformed i was certain Azazel was going to get triggered, which he did, but in the end he managed to control his emotions.

Azazel in general is the only character who keeps delivering great moments and carrying this show almost single-handedly at times. Favaro had a nice moment in this episode but has barely done anything other than that and basically all the cool characters are getting pushed to the side in order to have more Nina and Charioce.


You are the first I see saying that and agree so much! A majority of people just seem to ignore Azazel almost completely, unless it's to criticize him.


There are many things to be critical of in Virgin Soul. Azazel is not one of those things. That there are people who liked him better in Genesis surprises me to no end.
Aug 19, 2017 2:59 PM

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Ok episode I guess.

The romantic subplot between Nina and Charioce is always going to be the aspect of this series that I'm the least fond of. Even when it isn't prominently featured in an episode.

I do however like the dynamic between Azazel and El, and I really feel for Azazel when considering what happened to his friends. Unfortunately though, as other people have mentioned, it's worth noting that he brought that situation upon himself by relying so heavily on such an uncontrolled variable, but I still see why he was so angry.

Don't care about Ale-whatever the fuck his name is. Still waiting on an eventual betrayal from him.

Lastly, I have to wonder just how effective an average looking demon like the one from the post credit scene will be against Nina and the others, but I suppose we'll see soon enough how strong he is.

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With all those delays I almost forgot this existed, lol.
Matsuoka Yoshitsugu has hardly any range as a voice actor, and is grossly over-cast.

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Transitional episode. After two week pause. But seeing Nina being drunk was still worth it, she was so cute!

Still favor the Chariorce. He knows Nina won't be killed by his troops and he still has the most brain in his head. Still don't like Azazel, he's terrorist and brought it upon himself by himself.

Seems like this was the breather before the storm, bet the next episode the real prelude to the end starts.

If I have to guess Nina would probably sacrifice in a same way Amira did (and it was nice to have that little Favaro's flashback of her)
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I have a feeling that Onyx Squad is actually honest in doing all this for the betterment of kingdom and people. The moment when the Captain told Alessandro that he is not worthy to me seems more of a warning, not an insult..

Omg yes! I thought I was the only one who seen it that way. I thought he was calling him unless at first but I rewatched that scene again. The scene before it where the onyx captain said he gives his life to his king and showing his messed up arm had me rethink what he said to Alessandro. If you noticed the captain gave him a strange look before he told him no. I also think that he didn't want to get a young guy like him involved.
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It is just my theory but what the King is probably try to pull off is to kill Bahamut for good cos hundreds or thousands of years and he will get resurrected again. So probably that's the "goal" he try to achieve in this fucked up way.

If that is true Amira might get a chance to get free in the end.

You know I really really don't think it has to do with Bahamut. Everyone is saying that and what the general audience usally thinks something it's wrong. But that's not why I'm saying it's wrong. For example everyone thought Dormos was Bahamuts egg. Virgin soul likes to give suttle hints here and there and it didn't point any where near Dromos being an egg. Also there is nothing pointing to the fact that Charioce is trying to attack Bahamut either but rather unknown force that heavily has to do with his back story and that's why we aren't seeing anything about his child hood or how he became king.
Also I don't think it's a revenge thing either having to do with the death his mother. Taking full considerion of his character he does not come off as someone lingering in the past which was literally told to us by him in ep 17.
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It feels like some people are just hating the show because their ship between Nina and Azazel didn't sail. If there was ever even a romantic connection to begin with I would believe it but there was no romance going on. Also thank God it wasn't some dumb love triangle like you see in all the young adults novels. I'm so glad there is one road for romance or in this shoes case just a love story with a heaping of pain.
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Absolutely horrible. I'm just trying to finish this show as i'm curious how will it end.

Nina is an absolutely detestable and selfish character. She has a bubbly personality regardless of what happens to her group of "friends". Does not care what happened to Azazel and his friends, does not care that she is betraying her friends, does not care about anything but being happy and having a dance with the killer king, who imprisoned her and tried to kill her. She also doesn't seem to care to hurt others, and has absolutely no guilt. I have grown quite tired of this. The worst thing in a series is when you absolutely hate the main character, and this is the case here. Sadly enough, she is not meant the be hated by the creators of the show, she is just awfully written.

This romance subplot with her character are killing the show, making it almost unbearable. Sad, this could have been quite a good show.
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It feels like some people are just hating the show because their ship between Nina and Azazel didn't sail. If there was ever even a romantic connection to begin with I would believe it but there was no romance going on. Also thank God it wasn't some dumb love triangle like you see in all the young adults novels. I'm so glad there is one road for romance or in this shoes case just a love story with a heaping of pain.

Seems so, but that's one thing. The other is that people are way too stubburn to give up on longing for the Bahamut prequel and the previous characters setup, which is annoying. That won't change a thing about how Virgin Soul is. Ain't nobody's gonna apologize that this sequel didn't meet their expectations. Now deal with it, mates.
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Looks like Favaro was on to Nina, he knew that she's been seeing Charoice.


GAY, GAY, GAY,GAY!

Oh boy Kaisar, Alessad may turn against you especially he wants to join Chaorice's kinghts
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That epilogue confirmed it: El is the Edge-Lord.

Also, there is only one boat worth rowing on this show, and that's Kaisar x Rita.

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I get Azazel's feelings but he is getting on my nerves. Sure she didn't transform into a dragon when he needed it, but the whole plan was flawed for relying on such an uncertain factor; not to mention that he just wanted to use her.


I think Azazel understands that all to well, which is why he doesn't know how to deal with her, why he is reminiscing about the promises he made, and why he ask El if he is "appologizing too?". He wants them to blame him, to appologize to him.
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Seems so, but that's one thing. The other is that people are way too stubburn to give up on longing for the Bahamut prequel and the previous characters setup, which is annoying. That won't change a thing about how Virgin Soul is. Ain't nobody's gonna apologize that this sequel didn't meet their expectations. Now deal with it, mates.


Yep totally agree that people shouldn't complain about how the show is not going the way they want it. It's all about exicusion and I think it's doing a pretty good job so far. Next episode is going to be epic with all the set up from episode 18.
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