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Jul 23, 2017 12:49 PM
#101
Being a fan of anime and marvel movies (not much into superhero comics though) I thought this was an interesting idea... and watching Castlevania somehow gave me more hope for this. But... after witnessing one punch man and boku no hero, this is REALLY underwhelming. A friend told me this was sort-of like an animated comic... so I thought of motion comics... Doesn't sound too bad, does it? But, judging only this episode, NOPE. A motion comic would be better. - The explanation for the reflection should've been at the start or right before/after the opening. Perhaps a little boku no hero-y, but it would've helped to set this world apart from other superhero works. The pacing was suuuuper slow. The plot of the whole episode could've been done in half the time, there too many shots with characters just staring or "being there". If the art style is so simple that you can only communicate emotions through the eyes or dialog, maybe it's not the best idea to have long shots of a masked hero just staring. - That opening scene was not the worst idea to start off, but the absolute lack of detail and obvious CG just screams flash (kinda reminds me of adult swim shows, but simpler). I don't mind CG if it's sufficiently detailed and fluid enough (basically if it justifies its use). It looks like they used bold outlines in the characters to try to hide the cg a bit. I kinda liked the simplistic character design (it wasn't that simple to me really, just the coloring). Those beams looked straight out of the powerpuff girls. On the other hand, the still cityscapes at the middle and end were much better. The fights... well, I only liked that fight with the x-masked guy and the bunch of villains. - Whoever is in charge of the storyboards (or deciding the angles for the shots) needs some help. Some of the fight scenes looked just meh, but the action itself wasn't too bad. I'm surprised by the lack of one-liners as well, considering Stan Lee is involved. -What's with all the American flags? ._. It's not like we're going to forget where they're fighting. - I wasn't too interested in the characters themselves, but the teleporting girl seemed the most interesting to me and the x-masked guy had the most interesting power. And, seriously, I-Guy? -_- I can't say American ideas being done in Asia have a good record, but after Kill Bill and The Animatrix I had some hope. Probably going to try the 3-episode rule here... 3/5 |
Jul 23, 2017 1:20 PM
#102
The art style itself was nice but the way how everything is animated doesn't make the show good to look at unfortunately. |
Jul 23, 2017 1:44 PM
#103
Did you guys notice that the girls dancing in the Ending are not even coordinated lol Tbh, I like this type of art, it's like reading a comic 20 years ago |
Jul 23, 2017 1:49 PM
#104
For those who wanted the song that was playing during the battle between I-Guy and Batto. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzM1dxff7Co |
Jul 23, 2017 2:10 PM
#105
RealExtinction said: FiraDeviant said: I do not think you have seen more recent cartoons like Young Justice, Steven Universe, Gravity falls and even the new Teenage Mutent Ninja Turtles. Yes animation is a bigger deal in japan. But its production value is no longer that big a difference anymore. The one major divergence is still location of origin and with shows like Space Dandy that is also slowly disappearing. The western world may not appreciate animation as much yet. But It is getting there. And what we have is pretty on par with your avarige anime. Def agree. See, this is what I meant when I said I would much rather refer to Western animation for superhero series (but of course everyone was quick to jump me for 'divining' western and japanese animation). There have def been some quality stuff in recent years. Young Justice is amazing. Has anyone seen the new Voltron (Legendary Defender)? That is epic af. Personally I think One Punch Man and My hero Academia are actually better shows than Young justice. But With Young Justice returning for season 3 that may still change. |
Jul 23, 2017 2:27 PM
#106
Kittens-kun said: More people judging an entire show from one episode. Typical MAL. this^ like i understand the first ep. felt slow and maybe kinda boring, but giving it 2 or 3 more episodes wont hurt anyone. ofc you are free to drop it, but most of the people on here are so fast to call a series either AOTS or Flop after only 1 episodes, its incredible. |
Jul 23, 2017 3:54 PM
#107
Tokoya said: ZetaZaku said: The biggest salt mine that the world has ever seen lolLooks like a salt mine in here. I think that the art style is indeed pretty simple but that's kind of the point here given the theme and especially considering who the creator is......Back in the day, we never had the amazing art styles in comics that we have today and the ones in this show screams and really pays homage to how comics looked in the 60's, 70's and 80's etc Yeah, the show actually looks similar to that Spiderman cartoon from the 60's |
Jul 23, 2017 4:27 PM
#108
Wow, a lot of jaded people here whining about the animation. I was about to turn away from it too but then I decided "what the hell" and was rewarded with a weirdly interesting idea. I'm personally going to give it another couple episodes to see what's going on. Most likely just another super hero story but who knows... Also, people hating on Stan Lee need to do a little research and give him a nice little thank you for being one of the masterminds behind the entire super hero genre. Do you think we'd have the same caliber of shows today if it wasn't for him? |
Jul 23, 2017 4:42 PM
#109
Boring episode with a blurry plot. Animation is probably one of the worst I've had the opportunity to watch. |
Jul 23, 2017 5:09 PM
#110
Whe didn't got much from the plot but the animation (except for the fight scenes where it could've been more fluid) and the music where very good! It seems that the characters would be likable and their designs are pretty awesome. Overall: 8/10 |
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Jul 23, 2017 6:11 PM
#111
Ppl mistake "different animation style" with "bad animation".. Just because it isn't some godly, high detailed top-tier animation, they say it is bad. Well, this will never change, no reason to arg with narrow minded. Very nice show, nice direction too. Want to watch the next episode already to see what the plot will turn out. Also it is very rare to see a hero (main-character? not clear yet) to have the "copy your power" power. This is usually a characteristic of villain or antagonist. |
Jul 23, 2017 6:15 PM
#112
BlueEclispe said: Bro stealing is basically copy pasting. You can be inspired by them. And even if they are is it that bad?is it me or does every single character design look stolen; Sky Show (Sky High from Tiger x Bunny), the ninja with the x helmet (Robin from teen titans), fire dude (many other engulfed in flames heros) , the bat dude sky high was fighting ( manbat, maybe even some spiderman villans), and etc. |
Jul 23, 2017 6:24 PM
#113
Not a fan of the specific comic book artstyle this show has, it's too bland looking. The Disney XD Antman shorts have a way better looking comic book artstyle. The animation for this anime was kind of stiff as well. The character designs for the main heroes were pretty good though their superhero names kind of suck. I mean seriously IGuy? The villains weren't interesting or impressive at all except for the female villain who had her mouth covered. Didn't really like this first episode, I hope the show improves later on. |
DrGeroCreationJul 23, 2017 6:31 PM
Jul 23, 2017 6:26 PM
#114
Symphyon said: Mate. Not all premieres are gonna be good. I recommend go bashing on "misty cronexia's" anime instead it's way more of an insult than this. And the pacing is a mix of japnese and american. Which fucked with ppl's brains a little I see where why ppl dislike It. But I won't have it when ppl decide to insult ppl who helped bring so much greatness to the superhero genre. It's what inspired most popular anime till this day. You can go ahead and shit on it if it's pacing continues this way. Because that's no way to run a show. But I cut it some slack cause i'm used to watching both anime and american series. And their way of introducing is very inique. TheFancyWeebachu said: moodie said: TJHooker said: moodie said: Ya this isnt for me. A shame that this is what the director has to work with. Why couldnt he make more traditional looking anime smh. Also fuck stan lee, please ruin hollywood not anime. How does this ruin the entirety of the entity of anime? japzone said: No one is forcing me to watch it but I see this as an insult to anime in the sense that this director is one of the most talented guys in the industry. And for his talents to be reduced to something influenced by western idelogies that really has plagued hollywood is disheartening for me. I know to you guys its just simple as "just leave dont watch it" but when you have been watching anime for years upon years almost more than a decade, you cant just let everything go. moodie said: Ya this isnt for me. A shame that this is what the director has to work with. Why couldnt he make more traditional looking anime smh. Also fuck stan lee, please ruin hollywood not anime. Nothing is forcing you to watch. Umakoshi Yoshihiko designs are totally wasted. And because he is the character designer he now has to regulate the animation direction of this series, which takes time off from his other anime. Splitting his workload into two projects. Its obv that Stan Lee has more weight which is a shame that he will probably be focusing his attention here rather than other projects. Then you have the director Nagahama Hiroshi who is insanly ambitious. I would kill for another project by him and to find out he has to work on this just breaks my heart. So there, thats my reasoning behind my disdain. Knowing Stan Lee this will end up devaluing all the great staff members talents for the sake of a crappy comicbook hero type anime. I mean there's a difference between a typically average harem and a pretty enjoyable comedy, to a pretty lackluster hero/action show that has atrocious pacing, I think Moodie hates it because this pretty much feels souless as hell, not only souless but it doesn't feel like its made with actual passion either. This is probably what he meant when he sees this as an insult because this devalues in a way that the staff has to dumb down everything for the sake of it fitting with the actual work and it doesn't work either because from the inconsistent animation, towards the atrocious pacing. It isn't an insult to the anime industry, at least in my opinion. But this is probably the worst premiere of the season, and even stuff like Isekai Smartphone which is something people are trashing on about has more of a personal interest to me because at least I can enjoy that. |
Jul 23, 2017 6:35 PM
#115
Kokoyashi said: Where did you guys watch it? Is it subbed? Dude no one uses crunchyroll. Kissanime.ru OR Masterani.me <--- that one's probably the best, but both come out with episodes subbed on the day of release |
Jul 23, 2017 7:31 PM
#116
Decent director, decent writer, decent studio — why the result feels like art college graduation project? Did they want to make it feel like 70s cheap comic book? When art is easy enough for one person to draw and plot is full of holes? Congratulations then, they did it. It feels like 70s cheap comic book. Authentic. And pointless. So many things were improved since animation came to be. Many years passed. And here we are. Watching cheap comic book in 1080p. Degraded to roots. |
Jul 23, 2017 7:54 PM
#117
FiraDeviant said: RealExtinction said: FiraDeviant said: I do not think you have seen more recent cartoons like Young Justice, Steven Universe, Gravity falls and even the new Teenage Mutent Ninja Turtles. Yes animation is a bigger deal in japan. But its production value is no longer that big a difference anymore. The one major divergence is still location of origin and with shows like Space Dandy that is also slowly disappearing. The western world may not appreciate animation as much yet. But It is getting there. And what we have is pretty on par with your avarige anime. Def agree. See, this is what I meant when I said I would much rather refer to Western animation for superhero series (but of course everyone was quick to jump me for 'divining' western and japanese animation). There have def been some quality stuff in recent years. Young Justice is amazing. Has anyone seen the new Voltron (Legendary Defender)? That is epic af. Personally I think One Punch Man and My hero Academia are actually better shows than Young justice. But With Young Justice returning for season 3 that may still change. Yep, season 3 is on its way. Personally, my most fave superhero animation will forever be the Under The Red Hood movie. It's just too good. |
Jul 23, 2017 8:14 PM
#118
I have mixed feelings about episode 1, but before I say anything, I'd like to talk about Stan Lee. His influence is definitely present. The story seems to be along the lines of his X-Men, and I surmise that many of the super powers, hero designs, and also probably American city depictions. Now for episode 1. I like the direction the story seems to be headed in, though the first episode doesn't make it quite clear where it will end up at. I'm also a fan of the art design, as I feel it to be a unique blend of anime and comic styles, and the character designs benefit from this. Also, the music so far is amazing and catchy. However the elephant in the room is the animation quality. Many of the scenes feel poorly done. The fight scenes also seem to be kind of awkward, but that might just take some getting used to because it's so different. Despite the animation being extremely rough, one seen gave me hope for it. Watching the big screens in Time Square all change into the space image looked extremely cool and smooth. At the end of the day, it's going to take more than one episode for me to decide my opinions on the series. |
Jul 23, 2017 8:29 PM
#119
Jul 23, 2017 10:46 PM
#120
moodie said: something influenced by western idelogies You mean "something even more influenced", don't you? Most anime is already very influenced by western ideologies. pgmhecateii said: You forgot to mention how the art, sound, music, quality, character design, story, plot, and everything else are better. How is The Legend of Korra worse in anything than Boku no Pico? The tendency for anime to be better (That is discussable) is not intrinsically why it's called anime: There is a lot of awful anime which can't win on any of that. That said, I didn't like the episode a lot. Somehow I managed to like the rough drawings, but I'm not fond of superhero anime. |
LeviathanTheEspJul 23, 2017 10:56 PM
Jul 24, 2017 12:44 AM
#121
Not as bad as I expected from the initial ratings. I don't mind the animation as I'm a big fan of Archer and this wasn't radically different. Nice soundtrack, serviceable story and I think the concept has legs. Daring to be unique is something massively needed in an industry where so much of the seasonal stuff is so formulaic and derivative. I'm sticking with it. |
Jul 24, 2017 3:40 AM
#122
Oh really!?!? Stan Lee is involved!? DAMN RIGHT YOW! i really like what 9nine music produces! superheroes show/anime is always on my list! 4/5. |
Jul 24, 2017 4:57 AM
#123
I kinda wondering, what the people behind this anime thinking when making it? Are they want to make "American style animation" with this anime? Because it's far from that. And what with the American flag all over the place? Did the director want to play semiotics or something? |
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Jul 24, 2017 5:17 AM
#124
I'll give it at least the 3 episode courtesy before deciding if it's a hidden gem or a massive flop, but after waiting so long that first episode left me disappointed. I can appreciate the minimalist art style but the animation itself was choppy and slow, I had no context for what was happening until near the end which at least teased an actual plot. Hopefully this turns around and is just one of those "the first episode or two is bad but it gets way better" titles. |
Jul 24, 2017 1:26 PM
#125
I get it Stan. You saw that your teenage granddaughter is watching this "anime" thing and you wanted to look cool in front of her so you decided to make one of your own. But this failed art project will only be an embarrassment. So I sincerely say to you: "Fuck Off" nice cameo tho |
Jul 24, 2017 4:53 PM
#126
It was far away from beeing as terrible as the score would let one suspect, however it didn't really hook me either. Maybe I'm gonna watch another episode. |
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Jul 24, 2017 5:27 PM
#127
This anime is a pleb filter, like Ninja Slayer was back in 2015. It's like people only like animu designs and animation full of flashy CG special effects. With that said, if the framerate was higher this would have been much better. Watch the fights at 2x speed. |
Jul 24, 2017 7:25 PM
#128
I feel asleep 15 min in. That's usually not a good sign. The backgrounds looks awful. The CGI is blended in poorly. It's only redeeming quality is being so atrocious that I'm not even going to give it the three episodes before I drop it. |
Jul 25, 2017 5:46 AM
#129
is this what they call style over substance? that's not inherently bad, sometimes a show's style can take it to the next level. But this, this is just, ugggghhhhh. how do you make a show about superheroes slow and boring. |
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Jul 25, 2017 6:51 AM
#130
Well....I thought the artstyle was pretty cool. The animation was kinda choppy though, made the fight scenes seem a bit clunky. I think I'll still check out the next episode though, since I'm curious to see if it will get better. |
Jul 25, 2017 9:39 AM
#131
Interesting first episode. More interested in the main female |
Jul 25, 2017 12:44 PM
#132
Veryy underwhelming visuals |
Jul 25, 2017 1:40 PM
#133
Not bad but boring indeed I started to fall sleep at the end which I hate because I like the idea of a main character with copy abilities. Let's hope the next episode gets a better pacing. |
Jul 25, 2017 5:32 PM
#134
I really like the style of this animation. It may seem slow but it feels to me like a slow burn leading to something cool. Like the first episodes of Jessica Jones where you don't know what's up yet but it's intriguing. We'll see what happens! |
Jul 25, 2017 10:03 PM
#135
LegsDaddy said: I get it Stan. You saw that your teenage granddaughter is watching this "anime" thing and you wanted to look cool in front of her so you decided to make one of your own. But this failed art project will only be an embarrassment. So I sincerely say to you: "Fuck Off" nice cameo tho This isn't the first time Stan Lee has created an anime. I suppose you don't recall Heroman. |
Jul 25, 2017 10:56 PM
#136
That was some unintentional comedy. I laughed way more than I should've. |
Jul 26, 2017 10:47 AM
#137
oh wait this show was made by marvel oh hell no , i hope there is no so god that civil wars shit here , i had enough iron man vs captain america , and another spiderman multiverse , just bring deadpool already he nice to have his own stand alone anime show it will be like gintama in us style lol |
Jul 26, 2017 2:44 PM
#138
What's with the really low score. We've barely seen anythig from this. Yeah, it's different but that's why I like it. The world of anime is full of stuff that's pretty much the same. Rarely something tries to break away from the formula, but when it does, most of the time it gets shit on into oblivion because people it seems aren't used to more avant-garde stuff compred to the usual stuff they watch. My only disappointment with this is that I didn't expect the animation to be this stiff. |
Jul 27, 2017 7:00 AM
#139
It's just the first episode but... my god. I was hoping more from this anime. I'll continue watching it although I believe that it's going to go downhill and without brakes. Also, this animation makes some sense when you realize that the director is the same that did Aku no Hana. P.S. Was it really necessary to put so many U.S flags? They seem to be very obsessed with that country or something. |
Jul 27, 2017 9:52 AM
#140
Oh dear. Just what the hell was all that. It felt like a huge pile of generic super hero future films shit. Completely incoherent plot. Boring atmosphere, characters and art style. Nothing was impressive. Nothing about it was "anime" (which isn't exactly a fair criticism, but it just shows that it's not for me). I do not care to see what happens next. DROPPED!! ...Damn. This is the first anime I've ever dropped on the first episode. Though I suppose it's not really an anime. |
Jul 28, 2017 12:40 PM
#141
I have read a lot of negative comments about this series, which are based solely on the visual aspect. Considering that the director is Hiroshi Nagahama, who was involved in unconventional but equally good projects like "DMC - Detroit Metal City", "Aku no Hana" and "Mushishi", I would think twice before qualifying the work as a failure or waste of time. Please do not judge ahead of time. Remember the underdog "Kemono Friends", which received attention (and praise), when already its plot went more than half. |
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Jul 28, 2017 5:10 PM
#142
Are you gonna keep protecting New york? "Sorry lads im from LA" I died at that part xD and the I-guy part hahahaha. I can see the anime has american humor in it lol All in all i can see how Amarican this anime is. Superpowers are similar to american heroes, humor is very american like. And its a freaking comic :D I see this anime is very hated on mal and in anime community in general well i for once dont blame mal, this anime is pretty bad especially those visuals ugh. |
Jul 29, 2017 7:46 AM
#143
I quite like the art style but the animation was really bad and because of that the action suffered a lot. |
Jul 29, 2017 9:27 AM
#144
Worst of the season, most boring, worst animation and art I have seen. Couldnt even finish the first episode, I was that bored. |
Jul 29, 2017 11:38 PM
#145
Is this the Tiger & Bunny sequel we've all been waiting for? |
Jul 31, 2017 12:24 AM
#146
I love a lot of the individual aspects of this; music, art style, character design, etc. But it's really not coming together. Everything seems to operate at different levels and it looks a mess. |
Jul 31, 2017 10:22 AM
#147
Holy s*** was this episode horribly paced. Every other shot was 3 three seconds too long. The episode was also lacking in a sound in some scenes. Which only made enhanced my first complaint. In terms of characters we know next to nothing about them. There was no reason to care about any of the fights that was happening. The art style is neat but really it's horribly paced and the animation is pretty stiff at times. So far there is no reason to watch this show. |
Aug 5, 2017 10:35 PM
#148
Well, that was... I'm not sure. I'd like to watch more before I make up my mind. But it's so slow, I don't know if I can make myself watch another episode. I did like the ending, though. It kind of reminded me of an old James Bond opening. |
Aug 10, 2017 7:50 PM
#149
Doesn't Look Good and Doesnt Feel Anime. But will still give it a try. I can imagine these kinds of anime will work well with an English Dub. |
Aug 11, 2017 8:55 PM
#150
I feel so conflicted about this anime. The style was interesting, taking on the comic-book style or w/e. Not sure if the lack of shading was on purpose, but the monotones was somewhat pleasing to the eyes. Character designs were cool too. I-Guy looked like a Transformer/Gundam mix. X-On was a pretty sleek design and his power is cool. But the animation was just so fucking slow. Like aarrgghh. I had faster animations back when MapleStory animations were a thing. Let alone that pacing. Erk. There was hardly any dialogue as well, let alone any sounds at some points. I want to try to watch it some more, but I feel like it'd just put me to sleep. |
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