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Jul 22, 2017 12:49 PM
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Thank god, they didn't follow the manga route....plus they tamed it a bit, still make me cringe a little, but better than the manga(hitorijime boyfriend) i guess.
Seeing Settie on screen always make me smile, he's so cute <3
Next ep will be kousettie focused based on the preview, thats good.
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livexevil said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Thank god, they didn't follow the manga route....plus they tamed it a bit, still make me cringe a little, but better than the manga(hitorijime boyfriend) i guess.
Seeing Settie on screen always make me smile, he's so cute <3
Next ep will be kousettie focused based on the preview, thats good.


never read this manga, but from your comments i can think a lot of nasty stuff o.0
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Jul 23, 2017 1:27 AM
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livexevil said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Thank god, they didn't follow the manga route....plus they tamed it a bit, still make me cringe a little, but better than the manga(hitorijime boyfriend) i guess.
Seeing Settie on screen always make me smile, he's so cute <3
Next ep will be kousettie focused based on the preview, thats good.


never read this manga, but from your comments i can think a lot of nasty stuff o.0
lol xD well you can say it like that, it's not the worst stuff, but I just find their romance(hasekura x kensuke =haseken) cringest than the teacher/student relationship(kousettie) bcause of the rapey things in their romance, plus the char are so cliche, if u read many/plenty of BL/Sho-ai manga, u will know why and find they're so cliche/mediocre...u know like ur usual uke/seme personality(naive or tsundere uke, sadist seme or rapey seme etc etc) I find that tropes super boring, plus hasekura in the manga(my boyfriend) are those type jerk, possesive and rapist seme...

Well we know they love each other but the way the author writeoff their romance with using rapey as the driving plot to make them closer it's putting me off :/ even when they confess to each other already in the manga/become couple, theres still 've this "rape" vibe in their relationship, cause of hasekura personality.
But tbh I like hasekura x kensuke presence in my hero manga when they're already become a couple and supported the main couple kousuke x settie :)
I know those rapey tropes is not new in BL world, but just hoping when we'll get good, cute and lighthearted sho-ai show without rapey after doukyuusei, and heard my hero will be adapted, I was so happy lol until i know that my boyfriends story will be included in my hero.....*crumbles*.....but, im fine with it as long they tamed it lol xD
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livexevil said:
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never read this manga, but from your comments i can think a lot of nasty stuff o.0
lol xD well you can say it like that, it's not the worst stuff, but I just find their romance(hasekura x kensuke =haseken) cringest than the teacher/student relationship(kousettie) bcause of the rapey things in their romance, plus the char are so cliche, if u read many/plenty of BL/Sho-ai manga, u will know why and find they're so cliche/mediocre...u know like ur usual uke/seme personality(naive or tsundere uke, sadist seme or rapey seme etc etc) I find that tropes super boring, plus hasekura in the manga(my boyfriend) are those type jerk, possesive and rapist seme...

Well we know they love each other but the way the author writeoff their romance with using rapey as the driving plot to make them closer it's putting me off :/ even when they confess to each other already in the manga/become couple, theres still 've this "rape" vibe in their relationship, cause of hasekura personality.
But tbh I like hasekura x kensuke presence in my hero manga when they're already become a couple and supported the main couple kousuke x settie :)
I know those rapey tropes is not new in BL world, but just hoping when we'll get good, cute and lighthearted sho-ai show without rapey after doukyuusei, and heard my hero will be adapted, I was so happy lol until i know that my boyfriends story will be included in my hero.....*crumbles*.....but, im fine with it as long they tamed it lol xD


ugh, actually read a lot of yaoi/BL mangas to know clearly what you're talking about. After a time you start to get bored of same old stuff...seme forcing himself in the uke. Yes, he might be the dominant partner, but all has a limit xD
Haha was a time had no issues with this type of "couples" in mangas, then grew up and i want something else :)))
Glad they change a bit in the anime o.o


and good question: where is episode 3 o.0
can't find nowhere lol
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Jul 23, 2017 6:43 AM
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Glad they change a bit in the anime o.o

and good question: where is episode 3 o.0
can't find nowhere lol


not a bit, i watched the raw copy of episode 3 and all those scenes are gone, just kissing..
btw, all their story in their 6 chapter manga are already there in episode 3..

only raw copy is available at the moment, search in nyaa.si
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dany_elle1908 said:

ugh, actually read a lot of yaoi/BL mangas to know clearly what you're talking about. After a time you start to get bored of same old stuff...seme forcing himself in the uke. Yes, he might be the dominant partner, but all has a limit xD
Haha was a time had no issues with this type of "couples" in mangas, then grew up and i want something else :)))
Glad they change a bit in the anime o.o


and good question: where is episode 3 o.0
can't find nowhere lol
ikr, yeah thats what exactly I feel...too much reading bl manga with the same tropes..plenty times...I didn't get how come jpn fujo didn't tired with that kind of tropes, I just want a new sho-ai/bl show thats different than the usual stuff we get :/ at least the heart warming and romantic one lool xD weak to those kind of type anime especially sho-ai.
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dany_elle1908 said:

Glad they change a bit in the anime o.o

and good question: where is episode 3 o.0
can't find nowhere lol


not a bit, i skimmed thriugh the raw copy of episode 3 and all those scenes are gone, just kissing

only raw copy is available at the moment, search in nyaa.si
they tamed it, even jumped a few ch and changed the scenario.

Yeah, search it at nyaa.si, I've seen the raw ver.
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after all these years, I've finally seen the gay light
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oh and Amazon put episode 3 out with no subtitles for a solid day before just adding them today
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GUESS I CAN JUST GO KILL MYSELF THEN?!!
Jul 23, 2017 12:33 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Thank god, they didn't follow the manga route....plus they tamed it a bit, still make me cringe a little, but better than the manga(hitorijime boyfriend) i guess.
Seeing Settie on screen always make me smile, he's so cute <3
Next ep will be kousettie focused based on the preview, thats good.


So it's even worse in the manga huh, well I'm glad that's over so we can continue with the cute couple now.

Also what's up with the transparent hands lol http://imgur.com/fmA9dy6
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This episode absolutely deceased me. It was so sweet my heart grew twice its size
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Man, that wait felt like eternal.


Not being a manga reader i appreciate they took that rapey element to s certain extend. Maybe i'll try reading it...but hat sure was fast, they getting all lovely from episode 3 xD

Can't wait to see what the development it's gonna be like with the other couple :))))))))))))))))))))
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Jul 23, 2017 2:52 PM
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Hasekura has 0 chill in the first half of this episode. XD!

Also, is it me or is Kensuke really dense about Hasekura's reasoning behind his true intentions? I'm glad that he finally gets it at the end.

This is just so cheesy yet I can't stop watching! Looking forward to Kousuke and Settie's story.
Jul 23, 2017 3:34 PM

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No offense to people enjoying this but this school boys/childhood friends thing is just not my cup of tea, so Hasekura/Kensuke is really boring to me. Plus this "cut ties or sleep with me" thing, like, what. I'm not juding whoever likes it, as I said it's just not my thing.

I was expecting this anime to be mostly about Setagawa/Kousuke... I think from next episode onwards it will be since the whole thing about Hasekura/Kensuke seems solved now? idk, but I hope it is.
Jul 23, 2017 3:54 PM

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The episode was really nice, mostly at the ending part.

I just also want to say in case someone can fix the ending description. The one who sang at the ending this episode was Tachibana Shinnosuke (Hasekura). Same to the previous episode, it was Kensuke, not Kousuke.
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The manga is labeled as yaoi, but the anime is only labeled as shounen-ai. I think the most we're going to be seeing is kissing - and everything else will just be toned down or off-screen.
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Episode 3 was SO cute, it'll be torture waiting for the next one.
Someone who reads the manga: what happens when Hasekura asks for 5 minutes with Kensuke, when they are in the school rooftop terrace? I'm really curious hahahah
Jul 23, 2017 10:02 PM
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hehe though removing the more rapey stuff seems to *unless this was in the manga too* have left the main char about as aware as a bag of bricks hehe.
Jul 24, 2017 3:13 AM

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I was losing faith at the end of the previous episode since it looked like it was going in the direction of a really unhealthy relationship. So I was pleasantly surprised when this episode ended up much sweeter than I thought it would be by the time they were able to sort out the stuff between them. I also guess I can't blame Hasekura for being like he was when his feelings had stayed unrequited for so long. Although I still can't help but wonder where EXACTLY Kensuke stands with this development.

It looked like Setagawa got jealous over Kensuke being "allowed" to act on his feelings though. I'm rooting for him though, and wondering what's going to happen now x3
Jul 24, 2017 3:41 AM

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It was a beatiful episode! Even though Hasekura is one of the most cringy semes I have seen I am having fun watching Kensuke trying to deal with his feelings.

It's also amazing to see the friendship between ukes. It is indeed cute and pure.

I always found the hero pairing in anime more interesting as their story is more developed and complex than the other. So I read the hero manga and got disappointed actually. There was no depth at all. There was nothing I expected as I see the story introduction in the anime. Just plain dirty stuff. But I also checked the other pairing's manga and I see that manga and anime is completely in different routes which is nice. I hope they change the hero story too and give us the fluffy amazing pair we have been waiting for this summer.
this series not suposed to be that serious lol, it's more to sol romcom sho-ai, so dont expect complex story/relationship...just feel the fluffines or their cute interaction xD but i think the hero couple still better than boyfriend one, the way they interact are cute :3
Jul 24, 2017 5:47 AM

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Welp.
Somehow kensuke forced to be in the wrong? and Mr. Rapist Romanticized was the victim, because poor fool couldn't find a better plan than to ask kensuke to fuck with him or fuck off.
I actually laughed so hard at this episode.
That.end.part.was.so.cheesy.
Let's see how they handle the hero couple.
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What the EF!!! is what I could say this episode!
The m2m kissing is becoming more aggro!
What is Kensuke doing under the sheets together with Hasekura? giving him a head!?
4/5.


Jul 24, 2017 6:27 AM

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ooh that was something I was not expecting this
Jul 24, 2017 7:56 AM

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I don't know if I'll be continuing this series. Hasekura is a pretty disgusting person. I actually think I'd prefer it just be some cliche silly BL style rape thing. The manipulation along with the fact it's pretty mundane in its setting is just too real.

It's a shame because the art's pretty nice (for this type of show), I like the character designs, etc. But I really felt quite nauseous watching this episode.
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KYAAAA! That was a very cute episode, and obv my fave so far. UGH! I was squealing throughout thid episode. Someone hold me. Give me the next episode now pleaaasse! *fujoshi heart stops beating*

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Hasekura with a bargain and Kensuke was struggling cause he wants a friend but doesnt want to sleep with him. Kensuke later realized that he wants to stay friends with him forever resulting in him crying and saying he wants to be together and Hasekura said that he sees him as a lover and not friend and it made Kensuke realize that Hasekura's words "Lets be together forever" werent a lie it was just that he misunderstood him. Now Kensuke is in his bed o_O wants to be with him, i still think he wants to be together as friends, to be close.

ALl in all their relationship really reminds me of Netsuzou Trap with one more dominant person pushing the other into lust.
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I didn't enjoy this episode at all...somehow everyone was blaming Kensuke even though the pushy rapey Hasekura was obviously the one in wrong:/


RainSprite said:
The manga is labeled as yaoi, but the anime is only labeled as shounen-ai. I think the most we're going to be seeing is kissing - and everything else will just be toned down or off-screen.


well yes,thanks to the law Japan passed some years ago.....it's the reason why you can see some sort of "explicit" scenes in older BL but not in newer ones that were made after the law was passed.
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I didn't enjoy this episode at all...somehow everyone was blaming Kensuke even though the pushy rapey Hasekura was obviously the one in wrong:/


RainSprite said:
The manga is labeled as yaoi, but the anime is only labeled as shounen-ai. I think the most we're going to be seeing is kissing - and everything else will just be toned down or off-screen.


well yes,thanks to the law Japan passed some years ago.....it's the reason why you can see some sort of "explicit" scenes in older BL but not in newer ones that were made after the law was passed.


Oh dang. I didn't know about this. That really sucks.
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Thank god it seems like the stuff with Hasekura and Kensuke is over because I thought my eyes were gonna roll back into my head as a side effect of cliche overexposure.
The ending scene was cute, but Hasekura is still a creeper...god knows what the manga is like lol

Finally looks like we're getting Setagawa and Kousuke next episode which is what I signed up for in the first place!
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I wonder why the fuck the studio thought it was a good ideia to adapt the oneshot the author did 6-7 years and most people would rather forget about it. I'd be a lot better to just say Ken and Hasekura are dating and give a small flashback and let it be, they wasted 2 episodes with this very cliched and unhealthy relationship.
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What the EF!!! is what I could say this episode!
The m2m kissing is becoming more aggro!
What is Kensuke doing under the sheets together with Hasekura? giving him a head!?
4/5.

I've been asking myself that question ever since I watched this episode. Hihi. Damnit. I need an answer.

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Jul 25, 2017 8:14 AM

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I honestly didn't like the way Hasekura was harassing Ooshiba and I considered dropping this show.

I'm just glad that towards the end of the episode things have normalized between those two.

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I'm glad this didn't end up being as rapey as I'd been fearing , so it was a pretty sweet episode! :)

I also hadn't noticed just how beautiful the ED song was!!!
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Trash, author can't into human interactions.

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Thank god, they didn't follow the manga route....plus they tamed it a bit, still make me cringe a little, but better than the manga(hitorijime boyfriend) i guess.
Seeing Settie on screen always make me smile, he's so cute <3
Next ep will be kousettie focused based on the preview, thats good.


I have a question... Not asking for spoilers but... Is this anime/manga series with actual rape, or is it "dub-con"? I've been unable to decide if I should watch it or not because on one hand, I love BL/yaoi and want to watch every BL anime I can, but on the other hand, I cannot stand straight-up rape... And I've read that it is about a teacher raping a student, but is it really brutal rape, or is it dubcon, or somewhere in-between?

Like is it comparable to Koisuru Boukun's anime, or to Enzai's anime? Or a manga where the uke is seriously hurt and traumatized, or is it just the typical kind where the uke starts off saying no (not emotionally distressed, but indecisive) and then later enjoys it? D:
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Pikangie said:
livexevil said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Thank god, they didn't follow the manga route....plus they tamed it a bit, still make me cringe a little, but better than the manga(hitorijime boyfriend) i guess.
Seeing Settie on screen always make me smile, he's so cute <3
Next ep will be kousettie focused based on the preview, thats good.


I have a question... Not asking for spoilers but... Is this anime/manga series with actual rape, or is it "dub-con"? I've been unable to decide if I should watch it or not because on one hand, I love BL/yaoi and want to watch every BL anime I can, but on the other hand, I cannot stand straight-up rape... And I've read that it is about a teacher raping a student, but is it really brutal rape, or is it dubcon, or somewhere in-between?

Like is it comparable to Koisuru Boukun's anime, or to Enzai's anime? Or a manga where the uke is seriously hurt and traumatized, or is it just the typical kind where the uke starts off saying no (not emotionally distressed, but indecisive) and then later enjoys it? D:
wut? XD it's not about teacher raping student couple lol what I mean that've the rapey vibe is the other couple the student x student/childhood friends or hasekura x kensuke (haseken) one. The teacher x student (kousuke x settie/kousettie) is more tame than the haseken pair. Theres no rape/forced relationship in kousettie romance since settie is not ur typical tsundere uke, he's honest/cute uke and the seme kousuke is not rapist like hasekura. Kousettie really cute together :3
Nah, not as extreme as koisuru boukun, in hitorijime my hero anime theres two couple, kousettie(teacher/student) and haseken(childhood friends), like i say the one who have rape vibe is haseken pairing, it not as bad as koisuru boukun since both of them have mutual feeling for each other, buuut its just like the usual bl cliche where the uke are super naive + tsundere and doesnt want to admit it blabla so the seme will do the attack first "You say no but ur body like it" trope lmao. But in this anime they cut the sex scene even jumped a few chapter to finished their conflict so kinda different the manga, the main plot same but they tamed it a bit...still make me cringe tho. I think u can give it a try, the haseken pair start at ep 2-3, and maybe kousettie will be start at ep 4, if u dont like the haseken pair, try to watch it for kousettie pair, but if u bothered with it too than its just not for u :)
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...both if them have mutual feeling for each other, buuut its just like the usual bl cliche where the uke are super naive + tsundere and doesnt want to admit it blabla so the seme will do the attack first "You say no but ur body like it" trope lmao...


Thanks for clearing that up. XD
I think I will be fine with this then, since it's not as bad as Koisuru Boukun. I guess the site I read it on was exaggerating. I'll give it a watch.
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Pikangie said:
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...both if them have mutual feeling for each other, buuut its just like the usual bl cliche where the uke are super naive + tsundere and doesnt want to admit it blabla so the seme will do the attack first "You say no but ur body like it" trope lmao...


Thanks for clearing that up. XD
I think I will be fine with this then, since it's not as bad as Koisuru Boukun. I guess the site I read it on was exaggerating. I'll give it a watch.
yup, at least u should give it try, it indeed 've the rapey part at haseken pair but it's not as bad as koisuru or enzai xD still kinda cringey for me tho..
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Definitely get the premise of surreal love, and it's enjoyable enough, but I guess I've gotten so old that melodrama is awkward for me :p
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It was so cute when Kensuke was drawing him and Hasekura in class ^^
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I went through these two episodes just for Setagawa, please deliver my main couple soon.
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Sorry to say I found their relationship extra cringeworthy... such a stereotypical BL...
I found it so annoying I wanted to drop it but oh well. At least the ending was somewhat cute
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Hasekura was just less trashy than Hotaru from another show, but now the relationship is kinda sweet...?
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This episode absolutely deceased me. It was so sweet my heart grew twice its size

same here they were super cute
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Wow, is this hardcore or what? -.- Are all shounen ais like this? It's my first type watching these type of things
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Ew it too cute get it away my little fujoshi heart can't handle this <~<
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This episode was so much more than I could ever dreamt of. I'm so used to shounenai's where they deny their sexuality for 50 episodes and we get one kiss at the end. This, this was amazing, oh goodness.
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Hasekura x Kensuke :">
This episode is so beautiful.
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Cute but damn if Kensuke isn't the most dense character I've seen in a long time.
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I'm glad they fast-forwarded the whole rape-y thing so that they could be together. I really hate this in BL troupes... As somebody said in this topic they "tamed" it in the anime. I'm thankful. Stop blaming the victim please jesus.

At least it was pretty fast and I hope that now that they're together nothing else happens - Kensuke is even taking the lead on holding Hasekura and all, so hopefully...

I want to see more of the Hero couple
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