Gintama. Episode 10 Discussion

GoldenDevilGamer said:
Finally we get Gintoki vs Kamui. That being said, this fight’s gonna be terribly hard for Gintoki since Kamui is ridiculously strong, even more than Housen apparently. But Gintoki is probably the most OP human in the Gintama universe, so yeah, he’s holding up pretty well. I mean, you must need ridiculous strength (and plot armor) to stop Kamui’s punches. But somehow, even Gintoki’s cheesy lines feel really badass here!

What probably makes this fight stand out more is its creative choreography (like Gintoki jamming his sword in Kamui’s umbrella to break it, etc). Plus the fight itself it pretty brutal. Kagura tried to stop the fight, but it made Gintoki fall in Kamui’s blind spot. And we finally get Kamui going in his Yato mode. To think that out of everyone, it was Gintoki who made Kamui go this far.

But yeah, Gintoki can’t beat Kamui anymore unless if everyone else helps. Finally Abuto gets to shine though (especially since they cut his monologue from the last episode). Kamui and Abuto always had a strong relationship, so them fighting is kinda a big deal I guess. Seems like Abuto’s not enough to make Kamui snap out of it… but I doubt Shinpachi can help. Or maybe he can, since he wrecked a good amount of Yato guys in the background during the Gintoki vs Takasugi fight.

Shinpachi and Kagura’s teamwork is really cool. It’s cool how Sorachi tried to make Shinpachi do something for once other than yelling Kagura-chan, Gin-san in the background. And he did pretty well too. Ah, that Yorozuya team up against Kamui is so damn cool, alongside with Kagura’s monologue.

Man, everyone’s wrecked up pretty hard, especially Kagura and Kamui. Seems like Kamui has given up and accepted Kagura’s strength. And after 180+ episodes, Kamui is finally a good guy (Maybe? Probably? Hopefully?). And the lengthy fight is finally over. The anime made me feel more emotionally impacted than the manga did for some reason (it's usually the opposite for me usually).

Just as I predicted earlier, 5 chapters adapted (chapters 585-589). Easily the best episode of this arc. Seems like there’s two more episodes until this arc is over. Next two episodes should adapt 3 episodes each.



5/5

crystalblade13 said:


Screenshots aren't working :(

GoldenDevilGamer said:
Some are up and more are coming in a couple of mins.

GoldenDevilGamer said:
Some are up and more are coming in a couple of mins.

crystalblade13 said:


Ah, thanks a lot bro!

GoldenDevilGamer said:
All of them are up now :D

Ginsukesan said:
Wow, what an amazing episode. I got really hyped at the first half, and I almost teared up at the end. Gintama has such amazing characters, it is unbelievable sometimes. In honor of that, I want to comment on this episode character by character instead of scene by scene.

First, the main character, best character of the best cast, Sakata Gintoki. Seriously, one of the greatest anime characters of all time. His fight with Kamui was amazing. The struggle, the pain was visible throughout the fight, and you could see that he kept fighting by sheer will alone (in fact, that was even stated in the manga by Umibozu, which was a great monologue, but I am not going to nitpick now). He fought and even beat (until he went crazy) a full powered Kamui, who was appearently even stronger than Housen. Even when Kamui went Berserk mode, Gintoki only got knocked out because he was trying to defend Kagura and took a direct hit. And even than he stood back up. Gin's durability and strenght never ceases to amaze me. You can see that he is taking a lot of damage after each hit, but he keeps standing back up. I love Gintoki's fights, Gintoki's fighting style is always great to see. That last hit on Kamui's face from Kagura's shoulders might be one of my favorite scenes in all of anime. Outside of being badass, Gintoki's words this episode were really really well written. He was really wise, and you could see that he didn't feel anger towards Kamui, he just felt bad for him. He tried to talk him out of going down a path that he himself almost went, if it weren't for his friends. I know I am fanboying, but I can't help it. ''I am Yorozuya Gin chan'', best line ever (and Sugita's delivery of that line was really imressive).

It might be a bit surprising, but besides Gin san, my favorite in this episode was Shinpachi. His will to fight was amazing. I loved how he kept attacking Kamui, again and again. Like, he is not a Yato like Kagura or Abuto. He is not a durability monster like Gintoki. He is the weakest person on that area. He is the one who is most likely to die if he gets a direct hit even a single time. Yet he doesn't hesitate. Yorozuya = Best family ever. Also, I always loved his voice, which made that scene even more badass.

And now to the best female character, Kagura (even though there are a few female characters in Gintama that I like just as much as her, I can't deny that she is objectively the best at this point). Other Shounen animes should really look at Kagura and take a few notes. Her fight with Kamui was amazing. Her and Shinpachi's combined efforts (plus the music) was great. Seeing her getting hit so many times was painful to see, but I also felt proud everytime she stood back up. The little Kagura with Kouka is probably the most adorable thing I've ever seen (and heard) in a long time. But my favorite part is definitely her resolve, and her love for her family (both of them). I love how she fought with everything she had, yet she was never really angry. Shows how much she has grown since the Yoshiwara arc. And as I said, I am a sucker for any family scene with Yorozuya, their relationship is probably one of my favorite things in Gintama.

I know she didn't have many scenes in this episode but I also want to talk about Kouka a bit. We have only known her for 3 episodes, yet I still almost teared up at the end, when she was dying. I love every aspect of her character. Loving mother and wife, badass woman who fights monsters for fun, a brave person who would sacrifice everything, including her life just to spend a bit more time with people she loves.

Then there is our ''villain'' Kamui. There isn't any character in Gintama that I don't like, so I always liked Kamui, but he was never one of my favorites until this arc. But now, I can honestly say that I love the guy. His backstory was really interesting. His pain, his anger over his mothers death felt very real. Even if I didn't agree with his reasoning, I still felt for him. That last line he had about his sister, about the Yato blood etc. was amazing. Even when he was beating them up, you could still see the love he felt for Kagura and Abuto, and even the respect he felt for Gintoki. That is not an easy feat, considering he was trying to kill them. I hope he will find his happiness now that the unresolved issues are mostly solved for him.

And Abuto, a.k.a the best subordinate ever. This guy is the most loyal yet sassy subordinate ever. He was willing to attack Kamui and even die by his hands to stop Kamui. Not because he disagreed with his actions, but because he felt that Kamui wasn't doing what he actually wanted to do.

Overall it was an amazing episode. The animation (while not on Gintoki vs Takasugi level) was great, the music was great. The impact of each attack was once again very effective. Gintama never disappoints (the studio sometimes does a bit, but let's not talk about that now).

b-okiya said:
I think that the whole Gintama fandom just needs to be slapped back to reality and then back again into Gintama.

I mean, holy lord! We're being accustomed to something unheard of; which sounds wrongly normal! To think that Gintama has reached such phenomenal levels in the arcs before; even the thought of approaching those levels once again is hard to imagine, let alone matching those on a weekly basis! I have never seen anything of this caliber, quality, and consistency. This is unreal.

After Gintama finishes I'm definitely going to need a reboot button; unless I'm ready to bid anime and manga farewell.

-Stray said:

Well said, you can literally feel how polished every character is and how much details and consistency Sorachi's put in it, his efforts are just simply amazing and outstanding, lets all do him a favor and buy his manga! at least thats what Im doing.

ibraheem234 said:
I liked this episode my only regret is that only two episodes are left..the shows just keeps getting better and better...

Phukkitt said:
Even though I prefer the comedy side of Gintama, some of the serious bits in the past have still been pretty good, but these last few episodes with Kamui have just been horrible. And by that I mean horribly boring, predictable and cringe-worthy. Especially this bit with Kagura looking like she's howling at the moon while also vibrating: http://i.imgur.com/eSMrbsj.gif Almost felt like just stopping the video there and giving up on Gintama completely.

werdnaajb said:
Thought it was so awesome. There was a part that was perplexing to me. It was after Gin gained the upper hand on Kamui, and was going in for "kill shot"...then they panned to his "surprise" face, along with Shinpachi and Kagura...then he just stopped, and Kamui just walked up to him and gave him an uppercut. Ive watched this multiple times now, and it seems as if they either missed a scene, or a line of dialogue. It's really the only time I remember saying "they effed up there" I understand that he was probably exhausted, but it didn't look right.




I disagree with most everything you said...but one thing I do agree with, was Kagura's "howl". It looked weird and out of character, and wasn't even necessary. Other than that it was fantastic as usual

GangsterCat said:
this is probably the worst episode so far, not funny and overdramatic. i hope saiki come soon.