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Dec 29, 2016 4:32 AM
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Damn...

Pudding's true nature and her gun is scary. I feel kinda bad for Sanji here since the person he thought Pudding would be is nothing like what he hoped for. My respect for Brooke also grew a bit this chapter.

Dec 29, 2016 4:40 AM
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Wait a sec where did you read 851(or better said what spoiler did you read.)
Dec 29, 2016 4:45 AM
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Fyi, the raw chapter has been out awhile now.
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Dec 29, 2016 5:44 AM
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Pudding is such a bitch! Although I have to admit those faces she made were brilliant! Sanji's face destroyed me.

Brook is actually trying to fight Big Mom! Poor guy can't win this...

Jinbei is back! So much yes!
Dec 29, 2016 6:50 AM
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It's painful to see Sanji in that state... Hope Pudding wil get what she deserves. Good to see Jinbei again!!!
Dec 29, 2016 6:52 AM
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The ability of Pudding's fruit seems oddly familiar.

Jinbe greatness
Dec 29, 2016 6:55 AM
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Pudding is a straight savage and a master manipulator. I felt sorry for Sanji, 2 years in Okama-land, bleeding profusely, gets his heart broken by family again, and gets tricked into this marraige. I swear the build up crazy.

Also, brook taking on Big Mom?!!! HOW DOES HE STAND UP SOUL vs SOUL. Baron Corpse has to be shaking in his bones for this fight.

Jinbe you mf! From SH Alliance to BM Alliance and possibly back to SH Alliance again.. maybe crew member soon... GOD Bless this chapter and the year 2016 for One Piece.
Dec 29, 2016 6:58 AM
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Liked the chapter.Sanji cannot catch a break from his emotional torture.But Pudding's imitations were priceless.I really liked Brook's determination during his fight with Big Mom,but he's on a pinch.And yay Jinbei is back and saves Luffy and Nami!

But I have two complaints about this chapter.Firstly,Jinbei looks perfectly ok since he has his legs,arms and eyes,but I guess this will be explained in the next chapter.Secondly,what's the point of Pudding kidnapping Reiju and reveal everything only to steal her memories(her devil fruit power) after that?
Dec 29, 2016 7:04 AM
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Okay can I just say is, Rejiu is a better sibling to Sanji than Sanji is to her, I mean she freed him all those years ago, and helped him escape, and saved Luffy's life, and when she is trouble, what Sanji just stands there dumb founded. Do something, help your sister dam it, I know your heart is broken, but come on do something, you don't even have to hit the girl if you don't want to, just do something. just show up and tell them to let her go, don't forget Sanji you have your own power, just threaten to kill yourself, remember they you need alive until the wedding, have you forgotten about that, I am starting to wonder does Sanji even care about Reijiu at all.

Carrot continues to be awesome, I tell you she has to join the crew. And looks like we have hit our low for despair, now time to make a counter attack.

Jimbei is here at last, time to show us what why you made a good addition to the crew.
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Holy shit Oda...this panel was absolutely heart breaking T^T I really teared up from it

Purin is such a bitch making fun of him like that D: Her ability is quite something tho. For some reason I never thought what her DF could be.

Brook calling Big Mom Young Lady was sooo damn epic!!

And JINBEI to the rescue :D He doesn't seem to have lost any limbs...so I guess years of his life?
Dec 29, 2016 7:07 AM
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Jinbey is back. Happy New Year! )
Dec 29, 2016 7:33 AM

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Sanji man,Peak times ;(, Pudding getting more dangerous as chapters continue her abiltiy seems famialr indeed.

"Young Lady" OOOOO Them fighting words, Brook bringing it on with a YONKO before Luffy lmao.
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Dec 29, 2016 7:54 AM

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Did Oda have to show him crying so helplessly, though? He's been consistently harsh on the character all year. Whatever Sanji does next won't be enough for him to live this down.

Also, was I the only one expecting Jinbe to look old when he'd appear next? He hasn't even lost a limb, so what did Big Mom take from him?
Dec 29, 2016 8:29 AM

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Awesome chapter.

Damn, I can't believe Pudding belittled Sanji like that, Imitating his faces when he was really trying to get over his heartbreaking experiences was seriously way too harsh. The entire scene with the combination of Sanji trying to light his lighter amidst the rain while dropping the bouquet and eventually crying totally broke me. Such a powerful, emotionally poignant scene. Couldn't help but tear up. T.T

Brooke was so epic against Big Mom. I love how he stood up to her and said that no matter what happens, they'd never let Sanji feel an ounce of guilt was so awesome. It was also pretty cool when he said he has the faith that Luffy will do something. Him calling Big mom Young Lady was so hilarious, I can't wait to hear that in the anime. XD

Interesting ability that Pudding has, the ability to manipulate memories.

That bouquet under the window. T.T

JINBEI GREATNESS. XD I was grinning so hard when he made his entrance, Hell yeah! Come on StrawHats, Let's take Sanji back!


MonkeyDMike said:

But I have two complaints about this chapter.Firstly,Jinbei looks perfectly ok since he has his legs,arms and eyes,but I guess this will be explained in the next chapter.Secondly,what's the point of Pudding kidnapping Reiju and reveal everything only to steal her memories(her devil fruit power) after that?


Regarding the second one. I'm assuming she had Reiju tortured or something and revealed all that info just to see her expressions of despair, perhaps she's sadistic by nature or something? She did belittle Sanji to that extent after all, so I wouldn't put it past it being in her personality. As to why she erased her memories, It's as she mentions, so that Reiju won't hinder the plan to massacre the Vinsmokes.
Dec 29, 2016 8:34 AM

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Also, was I the only one expecting Jinbe to look old when he'd appear next? He hasn't even lost a limb, so what did Big Mom take from him?

I'm guessing years of life like others have had to lose. He probably won't have very long to live. Also, given the reactions of the people in the world of One Piece he could have also lost his reputation or his crew members.
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Dec 29, 2016 8:47 AM

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Lelouch0202 said:

MonkeyDMike said:

But I have two complaints about this chapter.Firstly,Jinbei looks perfectly ok since he has his legs,arms and eyes,but I guess this will be explained in the next chapter.Secondly,what's the point of Pudding kidnapping Reiju and reveal everything only to steal her memories(her devil fruit power) after that?


Regarding the second one. I'm assuming she had Reiju tortured or something and revealed all that info just to see her expressions of despair, perhaps she's sadistic by nature or something? She did belittle Sanji to that extent after all, so I wouldn't put it past it being in her personality. As to why she erased her memories, It's as she mentions, so that Reiju won't hinder the plan to massacre the Vinsmokes.


That seems to be the most possible explanation.Pudding just wants to show her arrogant and sadistic nature to Reiju and belittle her little brother in front of her only to see her expression of despair as you said.But unfortunately for her Sanji heard everything so her arrogance might/will be her downfall.
Dec 29, 2016 8:54 AM

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Oh no Sanji I really felt bad for him.

Jinbe is here OHMYGOD!

Dec 29, 2016 8:54 AM

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Finally Jinbe is back
and he looks fine i guess? did he really decided not to go through with leaving her crew and went full coward like the rumors were saying?
Dec 29, 2016 9:08 AM

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Ouch..
Sanjis 2016 was really horrible. Not just that his sacrifice for his nakama and Jeff was meaningless. On top of that the only person who gave Sanji hope is humiliating him in such a cruel way.
From this point on I think it can't get worse , so I'm looking forward to the moment when he will get his payback.


Brook vs Charlotte Linlin
The first one of the mugiwaras to have a one on one against an yonkou. It's so satisfaying to see him in the spotlight and hold his ground against her. His doublepage was just pure gold.


The knight of the sea enters the stage.
His entrance was really epic and I'm relieved that he still got all his limbs.
With him and Luffy joining forces the counterattack can finally start.

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Dec 29, 2016 9:15 AM

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Although it's fucked up, I couldn't help but chuckle a little when Pudding was making fun of Sanji's faces. That laughter went away though when it showed Sanji crying, damn that hurt. He's really in a hopeless situation right now, and I feel like the failure to even light a cigarette (of course it was raining so that was a factor) added more to his hopelessness, making that scene even more painful.

Brook is about to go all out, even though there's no possible way he could stand up to a Yonko. And Jinbe is back! He looks fine physically, so maybe the last time we saw him, he got some years of his lifespan taken away. Either that or he remained loyal to Big Mom to save his own ass but is still helping out the Straw Hats anyway.
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Dec 29, 2016 9:17 AM

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I have a feeling that Puddin might be faking all this intentionally for Sanji to not feel guilty leaving her and helping his crew. I believe that she has intended for Sanji to witness the scene and react that way so as to "free" his obligations to her and return to Luffy's side. The timing might have been perfect as she might have another ability with her "third" eye to see where Sanji would be at any point in time. Her comment towards Luffy might have been a hoax to ensure that Luffy will do with all his power to aid Sanji's escape and not accept the fact that he has chosen to stay with Puddin.

Surprised to see Jinbei all fine as I was sure he had to spin the Big Mom roulette before leaving her crew.
Dec 29, 2016 9:27 AM

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Pudding faces were hilarious then came sanji crying :'( the year of suffering continues :'(
Her ability is to take out memories as film sheets :O

Carrot a cute.
Brook calling bi mom a young lady XD
Jinbe saves the day :)
Dec 29, 2016 9:30 AM

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I thought the last chapter for this year was last week chapter and what a delightful surprise to see a new chapter out :)
This arc is becoming more and more awesome and it might even top the best 3 arc in One Piece for me.
I really want to kill Pudding while reading this and her power sure is really useful.
Sanji is in total despair and I can't wait to see the wedding.
Also Jinbe is finally here :)
Dec 29, 2016 9:57 AM

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LMAO Brook is massively fucked. What is he planning on doing? Whip out his conqueror's haki and one-shot big mom?
Oh and another broken ability enters the party. Nice, I like it.
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Dec 29, 2016 10:04 AM

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Dat Pudding scene acting like Sanji,i laughed so hard.

Anyway,her Akuma no Mi it's awesome,reminds me of ''Heaven's Door'' from Rohan Kishibe,plus we had Soul King facing Big Mom and Jinbei back again,absolutely amazing as always!
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MoonStar9 said:
Did Oda have to show him crying so helplessly, though? He's been consistently harsh on the character all year. Whatever Sanji does next won't be enough for him to live this down.

Also, was I the only one expecting Jinbe to look old when he'd appear next? He hasn't even lost a limb, so what did Big Mom take from him?


To be fair, it was never established that the siphoning of years alters ones outright appeance. It was obvious that Jinbe won´t get cut off a limb since the numbers indicated the cutting of 10/50/100 of each thing. Even 10 arms or foot would require him to lose both limbs or his crew to lose them.There is the sight possibility that his crew were the ones that took this burden for him, but he may as well have only lost lifespan. Last but not least Pedro is a perfect example of not changing looks although losing lifespan.

In regards to Sanji, yes he hasn´t been badass for forever, but people who complain about it probably forgott about the Baratie arc. Sanji is not Zorro. Sanji always relied on Luffy to fight his fights, starting from Don Creek. He´s primarly a cook, that can handle his own when needed, but fightning isn´t his forte. One of the core themes of One Piece is the reliance on others. Sanji´s development from the Zou arc onwards is fitting for Sanji´s character.

1. He´s loyal to the point where he´s wiling to selfsacrifice.
2. We learned about the origin of his chivalrous nature.
3. Sanji needs Luffy and the Strawhats to be rescued, which is a repitition, but he provides them with nourishment,good taste and non poisonus food in return.
4.Everything else that´interesting are mostly the flashbacks that tell and explain his family relations and contrast his past self to where he reached now.
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Anyone have a link to Pudding's character page? I have to pay my respects and have her in my top ten characters for the legendary roasting this chapter, Akane Tsunemori is out of here.
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Dec 29, 2016 10:34 AM

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Poor Sanji, man... Wonder if he'll come outta this as good ol' Sanji or if this'll affect his personality in some way.

Dec 29, 2016 11:18 AM

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So....Sanji believed those tears......or is He Crying because he knows Pudding is actually lying and those tears she cave were real...and what he is hearing her saying right now to Reiju is actually BS?

Wouldn't be surprised that Oda was actually Trolling us...Currently thinking that Pudding is Dirty little Whore-Bitch...but wouldn't be surprised by trolling.

Lol!! Tribute TO FAMOUS STORY OF SNOW WHITE! XD

JINBE IS HERE!!!! XD

Still Happy...somewhat That I was Right about Pudding from start...even if I am currently crying for Sanji.....He better get his Happiness sometime Soon...I mean He is happy when he is part of SH Pirates but he also wants to get a Girl of his own....he deserves after it after all this BS!!
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Also, was I the only one expecting Jinbe to look old when he'd appear next? He hasn't even lost a limb, so what did Big Mom take from him?

Big Mom took nothing from jimbe

the journals of totland even talked about jimbe giving up on getting out of the alliance with Big Mom, and brook and pedro saw those journals

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Dec 29, 2016 12:13 PM

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Hilarious seeing Pudding mock Sanji. Her impersonation was spot-on! The irony.
Dec 29, 2016 12:15 PM
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First of all, only Oda can pull this. 2 funny panels with Pudding making funny faces and Sanji breaking down between them.
Now to the chapter:
- Pudding's ability looks like it will affect the rest of the story. What if she ends up erasing all of Sanji memories.
- Brook, again, getting more badass. Calling Momma "Young Lady" should raise his bounty in the same second
- I cannot express how hyped I got when I saw Jinbei preparing that punch. Please new SH, PLEASE.
Dec 29, 2016 12:40 PM

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Boring chapter.

2/5

Fight with Big Mom is offpanel and Jinbe beat his opponent with one punch. Typical scheme in one piece.
Dec 29, 2016 1:00 PM
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Jimbe the man. Always there to save Luffy.
Dec 29, 2016 1:02 PM

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Amazing Colour Page.

Argh I freaking hate Pudding. That Bitch needs to be taught a lesson.
DAMN Poor Sanji. My heart hurts seeing him cry.

YOOHOHO!!! Brook standing up to Big Mom. That determination & fearlessness. What a badass. Even calling her Young Lady.

YOOOO Jinbei finally arrives. Awesome punch.
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Dec 29, 2016 1:25 PM
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Easily the best chapter of the arc so far. Pudding is really becoming a major you know what & I hope Nami puts her in her place. Brook standing up to Big Mom and calling her "young lady", massive props Baron Corpse.

I agree with others, Carrot is still being exceptionally cute,(fingers crossed she joins), best of all Boss Jimbe showed up to the rescue,(another one I would love to see join the Strawhats). This arc is quickly approaching its end and I can not wait for the counterattack to begin,(I still believe the box from Fishman Island will still play a part in it).
Dec 29, 2016 1:41 PM

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I'm trying not to forget details, maybe they'll be important. Jinbe has all arms/legs. What if Jinbe was saved by his crew, or just by Wadatsumi? Big Mom hates giants, maybe she hates them because Wadatsumi sacrificed himself for Jinbe, or something. He's not exactly the same giants, but it's still a possible answer for Big Mom getting enraged by the word "giant".
That somehow might seem logical. Maybe...???

I'm also a bit disappointed that the fight between Big Mom and Brook is completely off-panel. I think in the next, or the chapter after that will show us a defeated Brook, or Luffy and the other nakamas get there just in time to save Brook.
I'm really excited about this arc!
Dec 29, 2016 1:43 PM

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Why ? He doesn't deserve this
Dec 29, 2016 2:08 PM

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When Sanji has nothing left :( Not even smoking...

Glad to see Jinbei back atleast!
Dec 29, 2016 2:20 PM

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Holy shit Oda...this panel was absolutely heart breaking T^T I really teared up from it

Purin is such a bitch making fun of him like that D: Her ability is quite something tho. For some reason I never thought what her DF could be.

Brook calling Big Mom Young Lady was sooo damn epic!!

And JINBEI to the rescue :D He doesn't seem to have lost any limbs...so I guess years of his life?


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Didn't expect a new chapter, was plesantly surprised by this. I'm really curious just how the hell Brook is going to take on Big Mom, lol, I don't think he stands a chance. Plenty of guts though!

Also, freaking Jinbei out of nowhere! Awesome :o
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Honestly, I've never felt so pleased to see Jinbei before now. At this point, I'm not really against him joining the crew anymore. Still feel like he doesn't quite fit in with the rest of them as an actually member of he crew, but maybe that will change. Nonetheless, that was a pretty great entrance.

I am curious though, now that others mentioned it, what was taken from him. It seems possible that it was just his lifespan. To be honest Pedro doesn't look any older than his previous self in the flashback, so maybe it's not quite the same as just aging them, or something. I feel like it's something else though, but I'm sure we'll find out soon, if not in the next chapter.

That was a pretty heartbreaking scene with Sanji too. And I think I have to change my stance on Pudding now... pretty sure she is honestly and truely evil. Otherwise, there would've been no point in erasing Reiju's memories... unless the two of them somehow set that all up, somehow predicting that Sanji would be there in that moment (which I truly doubt).

I wonder now if Pudding's 3rd eye is part of her ability and lets her see into people's minds. Maybe it's how she made that fake memory as well.

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Okay can I just say is, Rejiu is a better sibling to Sanji than Sanji is to her, I mean she freed him all those years ago, and helped him escape, and saved Luffy's life, and when she is trouble, what Sanji just stands there dumb founded. Do something, help your sister dam it, I know your heart is broken, but come on do something, you don't even have to hit the girl if you don't want to, just do something. just show up and tell them to let her go, don't forget Sanji you have your own power, just threaten to kill yourself, remember they you need alive until the wedding, have you forgotten about that, I am starting to wonder does Sanji even care about Reijiu at all.
The problem is that he needs to be smart about it. I imagine if she had said she was gonna kill her, he would've jumped right in. But she specifically said that she was going to wait til the wedding, so he knew she was fine. Sure, he could've jumped in and offered her a tiny bit of comfort for a single moment, or he could actually wait and save her life in the long run. And it's not just her, if he did anything there it would've caused trouble for every one of the Straw Hats as well.

Besides, if he jumped in, you know he couldn't bring himself to hit her. So if he did jump in, he would've most likely just had his memories wiped too, while she stalled by faking her innocence. Then they all actually would die at the wedding. Granted, now after all this... I'm really hoping, that by the end of the arc, this will be enough for Sanji to actually find it in him to beat the shit out of her.
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SOUL KING vs SOUL QUEEN next chapter pleasee. Although we know for sure brook cant beat bigmom, i really wanna know what bigmom DF power can do to the soul king brook
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Is it just me or does Pudding's memory fruit ability remind you of Undertaker from Black Butler?
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Yeah Jinbei. It's about time he's back.
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Yeah, it's Jimbe time!
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This is the first time I see Brook being so badass although his fight was off screen
His speech , attitude , and everything is awesome
bring it on , young lady !!

Sanji's panel .."a picture can speak of thousand words" suits that panel..poor guy , like some people mention , I also wonder why Pudding reveal her true nature to Sanji's sister so early..another twist ?

Jinbei finally is back too ..seems every limbs was shown except for his left leg ,so probably BM take his lifespan ? I have a bad feeling for how long he will last if that was the case
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This chapter was so sad and so funny at the same time. Sanji not being able to get his cigarette lit panel was brutal though.
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i can't believe i cried for Sanji....
he's not my most favorite strawhat crew and yet this chapter might make sanji to be my favorite crew
this is

actually make me sadder than when ace dies
can the guy get a little good things happened to him
as far as i remember he's the strawhat crew that get misfortune the most

JINBE KITAAA~!
he's still in one piece so either he's got a lucky draw or his lifespan has decreased
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HAPPY NEW YEAR SANJI!!!!!!!!
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