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| Are we allowed to reveal who the scum are in this chat? I have some thoughts about the gamestate, but it would necessitate revealing who the scum/town are. Still, I played pretty poorly for the short time I was in the game, and I'm kind of grouchy about it. But it's okay. |
Crossbell said: Are we allowed to reveal who the scum are in this chat? I have some thoughts about the gamestate, but it would necessitate revealing who the scum/town are. Still, I played pretty poorly for the short time I was in the game, and I'm kind of grouchy about it. But it's okay. Don't say it yet~ I want to hear what other people have to say first :D |
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| Alright, I'll keep quiet for now. |
| To be honest, you getting lynched so early and providing like zero content made it very difficult to figure out who the scum were. |
Crossbell said: Still, I played pretty poorly for the short time I was in the game, and I'm kind of grouchy about it. But it's okay. The passion that Logic currently exhibits reminds me how much I need to step up my game Dx I was too focused on my role. Being a cop, it's justified, but when you look at it, I had barely any presence as a player. I might just lack confidence and dedication. Looking forward to reading the rest of this game! |
Mishukax said: Crossbell said: Still, I played pretty poorly for the short time I was in the game, and I'm kind of grouchy about it. But it's okay. The passion that Logic currently exhibits reminds me how much I need to step up my game Dx I was too focused on my role. Being a cop, it's justified, but when you look at it, I had barely any presence as a player. I might just lack confidence and dedication. Looking forward to reading the rest of this game! I like the way you play, but I think you do need a bit more confidence at times since your views are valuable in a game. I still feel terrible about watching you get vig shot in Hidamari's Sketch D: |
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| I actually have nothing postive to say on this game. It is pretty much rip atm |
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| Dirty lynch lock :S Looks like mafia have it. It's in mylo tomorrow since the only role that could possibly stop a kill is being lynched. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: I still feel terrible about watching you get vig shot in Hidamari's Sketch D: That vig shot was brutal, I can't say it enough! I was in the middle of a decently long post, too, and I refreshed the page to that, hehe. Not holding anything against Arrisu, of course. |
| Man this scum team is SAVAGE. |
Crossbell said: Man this scum team is SAVAGE. They may lose it now the lover effect dies with the 3rd party. They should of killed logic tbh he is confirmed town and best option. The lover was always going to help togs and fo so best to keep them alive. Now Togs will be lynched and it comes down to last scum |
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| Yeah. This is going to be a close game but I think scum may have it. Fo looks to not be in a favourable position for township, and last mafia is not suspected. |
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| Damn, cant believe scum killed me x) None of my lovers are scum? Because if one of them is, I'm pissed! :D Also, was the change of my win condition bastard related? Or because it was too easy? |
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Gwendolly said: Damn, cant believe scum killed me x) None of my lovers are scum? Because if one of them is, I'm pissed! :D Also, was the change of my win condition bastard related? Or because it was too easy? Yeahhhh, the lovers passive is suppose to wear off for game balance, so your win con needed you to survive since the lover passive would wear off once you die. But having you survive until end game would be difficult and thus make both factions lose so it's not possible. We opened up the lover passive to scum and town as options since it would be too helpful for mafia to have 2 townies to be murdered for the price of one + scum ratio with a permanent passive was too dentrimental to have. |
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| also the glimmer of hope for town. but if they mod game, they are going to be disappointed since I mod roles all the time, and some I pull out of my bum >_> (I was heavily involved in role creation hehe <3 <3) |
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| Mishu, your cop checks are helping the PoE pool right now :-) |
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| Lastly. Why did mafia choose to kill the TPR? It was extremely not optimal. The TPR benefits from having both Fo/Togs, and it was evident based on their voting history. The TPR would have simply followed the way either one would vote, essentially vote with the last 2 scum. They would be removed from the game, and a townie would be mislynched - game would be done by the end of today. |
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| Oh for gods sakes town, can you not second doubt yourself at every post. Stop mod-gaming geezus >_> (don't play into what I nearly did in Hidamari's) if I was in the game, I would have went after Togs like no tomorrow after the stunt he pulled last phase. |
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| I'm pissed -_- I'm totally routing for town now! |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Mishu, your cop checks are helping the PoE pool right now :-) Yeah, at least x) |
| The scum are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. They basically had the game in the bag once they mislynched Holo and Phraze since they could convince Gwen to vote with them in order to reach majority. Togs did not really even need to scumclaim - he could have gone "oops, I didn't realize hitting Phraze meant majority" or something. Shooting Gwen was an extremely suboptimal decision since they could have shot the confirmed townie. One stray vote meant that they could have quickhammered and won, and Gwen leaving the game meant that they could have won. Nice to see Fo solving the game after being wrong for most of the game; I remember being in the exact same shoes as him in a recent game. wen can still theoretically win this at lylo, but the gamestate should be pretty clear-cut at this rate. If this a town victory, then I'll say that we probably don't deserve it, and we only won because of some bone-headed plays from scum. I did not play well, and I should have stuck to my guns on the wen lynch instead of being strong-armed into the Holo mislynch by Fo. Togs played decently well though, but him going MIA for the only Day phase I was active was disappointing. |
| Glad I can finally root for Fo rather than butt heads with him. |
| Wish I could see the mafia chat right now. Only reason I see for them not to have went for Logic, is that they were paranoid over protective abilities. Which even then is weird considering the roles that died so far. |
Mishukax said: Wish I could see the mafia chat right now. Only reason I see for them not to have went for Logic, is that they were paranoid over protective abilities. Which even then is weird considering the roles that died so far. They just wanted the lover dead tbh no deeper meaning, the original kill was going to be someone else not sure why they never consiiderd logic. |
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Jackrito said: Mishukax said: Wish I could see the mafia chat right now. Only reason I see for them not to have went for Logic, is that they were paranoid over protective abilities. Which even then is weird considering the roles that died so far. They just wanted the lover dead tbh no deeper meaning, the original kill was going to be someone else not sure why they never consiiderd logic. paranoid of prs maybe? But confirmed town > PR hunting imo, since PoE will just close on scum very quickly if you let the # of confirmed townies or potentially confirmable townies build up. |
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| The scum have been choosing very weird/suboptimal NK targets, which got my paranoia in a fit. I don't generally read much into NKs, but when they start NKing mislynch targets or something like that I assume someone is pocketing me. |
Jackrito said: Mishukax said: Wish I could see the mafia chat right now. Only reason I see for them not to have went for Logic, is that they were paranoid over protective abilities. Which even then is weird considering the roles that died so far. They just wanted the lover dead tbh no deeper meaning, the original kill was going to be someone else not sure why they never consiiderd logic. Dafuq? Did they know they'd fall apart once cupid is dead? Because I for sure didnt. Almost wanted to say that they'll die too if they target me <.< But at that time I wasnt sure who was scum. |
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Gwendolly said: Jackrito said: They just wanted the lover dead tbh no deeper meaning, the original kill was going to be someone else not sure why they never consiiderd logic. Dafuq? Did they know they'd fall apart once cupid is dead? Because I for sure didnt. Almost wanted to say that they'll die too if they target me <.< But at that time I wasnt sure who was scum. No, I think they were desperate since normally you can't undo the lovers effect |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Gwendolly said: Dafuq? Did they know they'd fall apart once cupid is dead? Because I for sure didnt. Almost wanted to say that they'll die too if they target me <.< But at that time I wasnt sure who was scum. No, I think they were desperate since normally you can't undo the lovers effect I still don't get it. Gonna scold Togs after game is finished :D |
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| I even read wen town -.- |
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| I'm going to smack my head against the table if they mislynch tomorrow. Mishu cop checked Yurkin, so they should be cleared even if they are insane cop. It's not that hard >_> |
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Gwendolly said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: No, I think they were desperate since normally you can't undo the lovers effect I still don't get it. Gonna scold Togs after game is finished :D for some reason the scum were terrified of Fo, and they been wanting Fo dead for awhile but the lovers stopped that from happening. |
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| This endgame mechanical talk is zzzz. Behavior, guys. Also interaction analysis with Togs would be appropriate to bring up. |
Crossbell said: This endgame mechanical talk is zzzz. Behavior, guys. Also interaction analysis with Togs would be appropriate to bring up. All they need is the voting history it tells a tale of Wen voting easy lynches, I noticed it while making them. They are overthinking it |
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Crossbell said: I mean, if there's a time to overthink things, my/lylo is the time to do it. I dislike the fact that they're just ignoring an entire section of the game to focus solely on mechanics, and claim analysis. In a bastard game that's just asking for trouble. They need to gain focus I agree I will be honest the game is not that bastard heavy the only things are the insane cop and the trap role, everything else is normal. Also GF i guess but I don't see it bastard. It is funny how much scum wasted thier skills though GF did not use the gladiator ablity 4 times I gave that mafia and they got lynched with no use. Togs kept picking people with no night skill and they nightkilled the person he oracled. Finally last scum was a 2 shot vannali but they used it on you who was immune and the 3rd party so had no effect. Your ablity was to give people their roles back. |
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Crossbell said: I mean, if there's a time to overthink things, my/lylo is the time to do it. I dislike the fact that they're just ignoring an entire section of the game to focus solely on mechanics, and claim analysis. In a bastard game that's just asking for trouble. Amen to that. Also they are forgetting the cop check if they want to solely look at the mechanics. It clears Yurkin, and makes his ability legit which he did not see wen target anyone, aka did not perform the night kill. |
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| The thing is, with bastard games, you kind of have to consider the possibility that the entire game is messed up in some way. Even though this game was definitely not too bastard heavy, I really questioned myself after the Holo lynch if we were dealing with something weird. And yeah, the scum really botched their ability use this time around. I think the Gladiator ability is quite powerful and confirmable, but Sithis was inactive so yeah. People are assuming that the cop ability is paranoid for some reason (always returns guilty checks) which is is an OK assumption from their end since we have perfect information. |
| And there's the hammer. We really snatched victory from the jaws of defeat here. |