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| Probably one of my favorite first impressions of an anime this fall season. Loving the WWII setting. I'll definitely keep my eye on this one. |
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| I enjoyed the first ep. Another Yusa Kouji one-off villain bites the dust... |
| WWII + Yuri? I am onboard |
| Really good and interesting start! Always liked action-based military anime... I just hope it won't be too romance heavy/yuri heavy. Wouldn't mind to see some fanservice once in a while tho ~ |
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| Was an good start, to be honest I was more excited with the WWII hardware in this episode than the actual plot =x |
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Luthandorius said: So Switzerland is that Elsteyn country and Austria = Westria is the neutral country in this anime. Not really. Switzerland is Vestlia, where most of the episode has been happening. Eylstadt, the country the princess is from, is some sort of remaining part of Austria it seems. TitanAnteus said: >If the characters were a boy and a girl a lot of people wouldn't see it as friendship, only romance. But no, if it the characters are girls " HURRR IT'S TOO GAY", oh come on. That is the denial made plausible via queerbaiting tho. The sort of ambiguity to bait LGBT community and still give an out to the rest that makes the lgbt community look like they are delusional or insane. It is very much intentional choice of writing. http://thoughtcatalog.com/christopher-bedell/2015/02/10-reasons-why-queerbaiting-is-wrong/ https://fanslashfic.com/2016/04/08/why-you-should-be-aware-of-queerbaiting-tactics/ And regarding queerbaiting you really need to calm down. Japan has class S relationships. True Friendship between girls there literally looks like a romantic couple without the physical romance involved. Obviously gay people will feel like they have been baited. It's just their culture and how they view the distance between female friends should be. I personally really like seeing true friendship between girls. It's why I love Love Lab so much. Errr....Class S is the VERY definition of homophobic queerbaiting. IT started as stories meant to emancipate lgbt community while skirting the boundaries of japanese censorship of the time but soon got turned into ambiguous otaku-targeted tales that trivialize lesbian relationships as "not real". "Because don't worry males, they are just REALLY GOOD FRIENDS y'all, and once the school ends they will go to birth babies and marry!". Its insulting and it is tiresome and Japan is using it VERY frequently. They want to "pretend" something more is there yet at the same time they don't want to lose the otaku money due to the stereotypes prevalent in society. They want to have their cake and eat it too. It remains to be seen which path this show takes but I am not expecting a REAL lesbian relationship in anime. It remains how far the baiting will go and whether yuri or baiting part will be stronger, but as of now it still feels calculated. I don't expect anything, but we will see. Just because it is expected problem with anime, does not make it less of a problem or nonexistent. At this moment I just hope they won't throw in a random male love interest midway through or by the end... |
AhenshihaelOct 3, 2016 1:10 AM
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ErwinJA said: anactor0 said: IIRC, "seig" means to win or attain victory. "Reich" more directly translates to "realm," but can also be treated as a term for a regime or empire. It thus means something along the lines of "victory to the empire" or "victory to the regime." It's clearly based on the actual Nazi rallying cry of "sieg heil," which is typically translated as a simple "hail victory."the show looks promising but I didnt get this word (sieg reich), what does it mean? when do they use it? "Siegreich" means "victorious", but yeah it's supposed to remind you of "sieg heil" probably. |
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| I actually got Studio Ghibli vibes from this. So good. |
 "There are three things you can never get back: The word after it's said, the moment after it's missed, and the time after it's gone." -Koe no Katachi  |
| Yuri + WWII = YES!! Sign me up for this one |
| "I lost all of what you could call feelings of love. They weren't sealed, so they can't be released. They weren't broken, so they can't be fixed. That which is lost, cannot be recovered." Shiba Tatsuya "There are no regrets. If one can be proud of one's life, one should not wish for another chance." Saber "No matter what happens, no matter how crazy things get, I'll always try to restore balance." Korra "It's madness to let others take what's yours and accept it blindly." Baatar Jr "Instinct is a lie, told by a fearful body, hoping to be wrong." Zaheer "Partner in crime, partner in time" Chloe Price and Max Caulfield |
| Gotta love MAL logic - two female characters = Im getting Yuri vibes / I hope its Yuri. Why don't you just hope its a decent story and stop wishing it's something that it clearly isn't intended to be. I'd be quite happy if there was zero romance in this of any kind. |
Crashmatt said: Gotta love MAL logic - two female characters = Im getting Yuri vibes / I hope its Yuri. Why don't you just hope its a decent story and stop wishing it's something that it clearly isn't intended to be. I'd be quite happy if there was zero romance in this of any kind. That's not mal logic, thats basic understanding of narrative subtext. Subtext is a real thing. An intentional thing. Subtext exists to allow the viewer to get a read on a character and the way the character feels. "Coding in" a character's preferenes, emotions of even sexuality is VERY common especially considering topics like same sex relationships have been a taboo for a long time(and in fact still are and even in Japan a lot of people would just love to ignore they exist, "treating itas invisible" as Yuri Kuma Arashi's very apt exploration of Japan's social dynamics points out). Its not limited to same sex relationships. Subtext is very often used to insinuate things, like emotions, psychology or changes. Stuff like body language is very crucial element of cinematography. See this?    The whole eye contact and closeness are very common elements of subtext. Throw in "being drawn to each other" and "childhood encounter" kind of tropes to that too. So no, it is not just "people seeing things"(Aka the "logic" queerbaiting concept works on, the idea that all the "gay pairings" are just those silly silly gay people "and sjws" seeing stuff that is not there), its very much intentional. The question is only whether something coems out of it or as always it is there just as a bait. If it is just a bait(like it usually is in anime) it will either be a non answer or will be completely swept under a rug with the writers pretending there was nothing there. Considering who is writing this, that's very likely. Its also ironic that if the princess was a prince this whole "Oh yoou are just looking too much into it" would not even come up and people would think its is obvious. Yet again another relevant piece of info: |
AhenshihaelOct 3, 2016 5:15 AM
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| Subtext or not it still isn't Yuri. |
Crashmatt said: Subtext or not it still isn't Yuri. All yuri is and ever could be in current and past Japan is subtext.The cinematographic and narrative decisions are what makes the subtext exist. Its the yuri minus the -bait part that is becoming more rare and judgement is still not made on which side of it this show's subtext belongs in. |
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| the first couple of words you already know the sign it's May'n song style. hahaha. Then, goes to MAL if it's right, and yep it is... |
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| I was looking forward to this, and boy, that episode was really great. I'm surprised the score isn't higher, but at least this should spare us the annoying "overrated" threads. |
| I read the discussions before watching the episode and wow.. I almost didn't watch it cos you guys kept saying yuri bait and what not. I'm glad I decided against it and saw it anyway.. I actually liked this and I'm excited to see how this story will progress. I guess my yuri goggles are broken, lol. |
Sury said: I was looking forward to this, and boy, that episode was really great. I'm surprised the score isn't higher, but at least this should spare us the annoying "overrated" threads. In a way I'm thankful for that, it makes it easier to discuss some of these series when they're sitting in the high 6's to low 8's on the scoring range, but I'm also a little disappointed. This first episode was a great introduction and one that has me quite excited to see where the rest of the series goes. It feels like a series that definitely deserves to be sitting higher on the ratings, but is facing an unusual amount of vitriol - for a variety of reasons - for something that was fairly hyped prior to its start. That said, i'm looking forward to seeing where it goes and hopefully not facing an overabundance of "overhyped" claims when conversation on the subsequent episodes launch. |
| Nazi-Germany/Kaiserreich Hybrid, Gestapo, SS, alternate WWII + a witch and a brave princess yuri-subplot? - AWESOME! I am hooked! :D  "I am brave and (I am) devout." That's a pretty nice slogan. :) |
Yes, it makes sense. ;) "<...> Die mehrstündige Aktion verlief ruhig und ohne Zwischenfälle. Unterstützt wurde die Zuger Polizei bei der Aktion vom Amt für Migration des Kantons Zug. " -> "The several hours long operation proceed calm and without incidents. The Zuger police was supported in the action by the Office for Migration of the Canton Zug." |
Skoellwolf said: Yes, it makes sense. ;) "<...> Die mehrstündige Aktion verlief ruhig und ohne Zwischenfälle. Unterstützt wurde die Zuger Polizei bei der Aktion vom Amt für Migration des Kantons Zug. " -> "The several hours long operation proceed calm and without incidents. The Zuger police was supported in the action by the Office for Migration of the Canton Zug." Then I'm even more impressed than before. In most cases there would be some random words (or not random, but not making any sense) and here they put a lot of effort for something that was shown literally for few seconds. Really impressive. |
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BoboSmrad said: I would love to watch this in a German dub and I would also love if the two main girls became a couple! But of course neither is going to happen. Anyway, I think this show has a solid start. Here's hoping it doesn't disappoint at the end. I'm not so sure. Even Girls und Panzer got German dub, and it was just perfect! Take a quick look at Amazon.de and you will find a lot of anime series on DVD who are dubbed to German! :D |
| looks like a dumb show |
Ersmark said: BoboSmrad said: I would love to watch this in a German dub and I would also love if the two main girls became a couple! But of course neither is going to happen. Anyway, I think this show has a solid start. Here's hoping it doesn't disappoint at the end. I'm not so sure. Even Girls und Panzer got German dub, and it was just perfect! Take a quick look at Amazon.de and you will find a lot of anime series on DVD who are dubbed to German! :D Really? that's awesome! i now have more hope that this will one day receive a German dub, it would really go well with the feel of the show~ |
| Saint is a more appropriate title for princess Finé, not to mention the fact that she is very fine indeed. The early-war aesthetics are rather pleasing, I hope the plot will also deliver (and keep doing so till the very end). Looking forward to finding out more about Izetta. |
mozgow said: Skoellwolf said: Yes, it makes sense. ;) "<...> Die mehrstündige Aktion verlief ruhig und ohne Zwischenfälle. Unterstützt wurde die Zuger Polizei bei der Aktion vom Amt für Migration des Kantons Zug. " -> "The several hours long operation proceed calm and without incidents. The Zuger police was supported in the action by the Office for Migration of the Canton Zug." Then I'm even more impressed than before. In most cases there would be some random words (or not random, but not making any sense) and here they put a lot of effort for something that was shown literally for few seconds. Really impressive. Westerners being on production comitee(namely the owner and developer of World of Tanks) most likely had a lot to do with that. |
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| Oooh, a chase through a train. Very Hitchcock. That was pretty neat. Good pacing; the flashbacks of the two lead characters expressed their past in a very effective and concise manner. Great production values too, other than the slightly questionable CG train. If I have any fears regarding this show, it's that the plot will boil down to a boring and predictable "good vs. evil" battle with little complexity. The WW2 theme begs for a "Nazis are automatically the bad guy" sort of story, so I'm hoping that'll just be the backdrop for something more interesting. The last scene was kinda cheesy, too. I'll definitely have to see more of Izetta before I decide on this one. Overall, though, I'm hopeful. Kinda surprised this isn't a two cour with what we saw here. |
| The pace and animation have a nice feeling to it. And while the setting gives it a relatively fresh undertone, I still felt the main characters felt really bland. Now, let's hope they can spice up the cast and develop a decent plot. |
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| Seems interesting. Potentially a great anime, but I had some immersion breaking moments (especially the broom gun thing). The hime-sama thing is getting tiring, but then I remember all the 'Your Majesty' in English fiction and I calm down and realize if they just translated it as 'Your Majesty' (which is more accurate than 'Lady Finé') it'd sound about right. Like I said in the other thread, at least regarding 'Germanian', many (if not most?) countries called many European countries by their original names, i.e. Britannia, Italia, Germania... |
KerberosXIII said: Di...did I just watch the 1st episode of the yuri Code Geass reboot? Not that I'm complaining, just want to know what I'm getting myself into. I think so too. ichigomaru said: Only I got Asuna's feeling from the MC? Yeah, me too. A mix between Asuna and Suguha. The character design in this anime is very close to SAO character design. The Ricelt guy have ressemblance to Kirito too. About yuri Bait, yuri undertone discusion... MY GOD this is the first episode... And if this is yuri what is the problem? I worry more about having a good story and good characters than if the protagonist are straight, gay or bi... For me this is pretty clear that the two protagonists have something romantic, this is so obvious, and the most likely they will become canon. Just saying...this is not bait yet, and the two female protagonists can possibly be a couple is no a problem neither. |
| it's just a first episode and we got MC showering... nice... A good start indeed... lol, i thought the studio is A-1... the art and Chara design kinda similar... the art, animation, OST are awesome... really like the part when those planes start drop the bombs... damn... gonna watch next episode... |
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I know it's the same guy. And they are similar. In fact, it's pretty much the same design. Even the eyes color is the same. |
| Best 1st episode so far in this season. Much better than what I expected and love ww2 theme |
| A pretty good start I'd say. We get the basic idea of what's happening, but I can't help but cringe at Germinian and Westrian and how it seems like stories like these always revolves around a character that comes from a made up country. Really hoping there isn't any yuri garbage in this show, but I can already sense the undertones. If it gets to be too much, I'm out. Not a big fan of the WWII setting, but I like how this show is handling it so far. |
BoboSmrad said: Really? that's awesome! i now have more hope that this will one day receive a German dub, it would really go well with the feel of the show~ I couldn't agree more!! :D |
| This definetly exceeded my expectations... I look foward to the next episodes. |
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| looks like it has potential to be one of my top anime this season |
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| oh man that ost during the invasion scene this is gonna be good i hope |
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| Yasss I like this a lot, tho Im only here for the Yuri subtext and I hope it delivers e.e |
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| Nazi being nazi and and Fine trying to get allies, R.I.P. bodyguards :( Animation and music were great :O Solid ep except the bit about german(ian) invading first and starting the war.  |
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| Wow looks like we'l be getting a great World War 2 looking show this autumn! I'm so excited. The first episode was jam packed, by the looks of it we're going to get a fully loaded 12 episode season. And I daresay, I got some Kiki vibes near the end! |
| Lie until what you want to be true becomes truth. Lie until you can't remember what's a lie and what isn't. Lie until you aren't lying anymore! Figures  |
| that was trash trying way too hard to be edgy foh |
| I'm no expert on monarchies and tiiles, but how is there a princess in a archduchy. I thought princesses are only a thing if there is a ruling king/prince. Elystadt isn't following the rule, "unless it's red, bright uniforms means the losing side). Who uses bright blue unifoms in WW2 the Germanian invaison of Livonia. P.S Why is Poland, Livonia? |
| Good so far, nothing too impressive but has potential. Action scenes aren't all too thrilling though. But it is only first episode so it will probably get better. And train inspection... First thing I thought was the Japanese army's Kempeitai. Germany don't really do train inspections, it is a pretty common Japanese thing though. Also Hitler doesn't like the supernatural, religion or superstitions in general... The leader of Germania being interested in the witch is truly an odd one. Though given she do have abilities can result in some pretty painful experiment by Mengel :/ |
zcv45Oct 4, 2016 7:20 PM
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| This was a really good first episode, but I can easily see this anime falling apart. The Princess is pretty much a perfect human being so I don't see where she can grow as a character, the Germanians are comically evil so I expect them to make good cannon fodder and contribute nothing else, the Britanians have already been pushed to the side and I don't see them playing an important role any time soon, and the Witch is already completely loyal to the Princess due to their history together. My prediction is that the Princess will start rallying the people and probably form a merry band and somehow stop the Germanians. I think we've seen the extent of the international politics this anime will have. |
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